I pretty much got scolded at infant massage the other day for sleep training E by the leader. I said we did sleep training because it was getting really bad. That there wasn't a ton of crying involved. One night she cried 30 minutes at bed and sometimes in the motn. The leader then talked to the whole class how sometimes our babies just need us emotionally because they were in us for 9 months and we have to remember this too shall pass. I wanted to freaking smack her. When you are so tired you're afraid you could hurt your baby and you're crying every day and thinking of calling your doctor for help.. something has to change. She did not suffer at all and I meet her emotional needs thank you very much.
Sanctimommy at its worst. I'll throat punch her for you.
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sunshineshades - She sounds like a peach. Do people honestly think we LIKE hearing our babies cry? We wouldn't do this if we didn't need to. Grrrr... I can't stand sanctimonious people like that.
What's amusing is the week before she talked about sometimes you need to let your baby cry. That like how we need to get our frustrations out so do they. And after her carrying on this week then went on later to talk about how it can be dangerous if mom isn't getting sleep. Like wtf are my options then?
Really whatever, my baby and our whole household are happier now. It has changed my whole perspective on sleep training after doing it with E.
It irritated me more for all the other tired moms there that she may have made them decide they can't sleep train because their babies need them emotionally. When really my baby has been outside almost as long as she was inside. I think she has a good grasp on what outside life is all about by now lol.
I pretty much got scolded at infant massage the other day for sleep training E by the leader. I said we did sleep training because it was getting really bad. That there wasn't a ton of crying involved. One night she cried 30 minutes at bed and sometimes in the motn. The leader then talked to the whole class how sometimes our babies just need us emotionally because they were in us for 9 months and we have to remember this too shall pass. I wanted to freaking smack her. When you are so tired you're afraid you could hurt your baby and you're crying every day and thinking of calling your doctor for help.. something has to change. She did not suffer at all and I meet her emotional needs thank you very much.
What a sanctimommy. Tell her that there are negative effects on babies who don't sleep and teaching them to fall asleep on their own and sleep better in general is beneficial to their health.
Post by DanaScullyX on Oct 1, 2016 22:29:19 GMT -5
Sleep training saved me. We still have some hard bedtimes, but we get sleep now. Consistently. Even with a wakeup or even two , she sleeps for decent stretches and I can finally breathe and an not a psycho bitch.
Post by rachelilly23 on Oct 2, 2016 7:22:17 GMT -5
K slept from 7:30-6:45 last night without eating. She woke up 3 times, she cried for under 5 minutes, and went back to sleep, so I didn't even have to go in her room. Yassssss.
So I spent a good 90+ minutes on Thursday night letting Chase cry, and DH did the same on Saturday night (he decided to grace us with sleep on Friday, apparently). So last night he flipped out at bedtime, so we let cry for a bit. DH check-in in on him after the initial 5 minutes but he quieted down shortly after. Then he started up in the MOTN but we decided to wait and give him 5 minutes to sort it out. It only took about 2! So I think we *may* be getting somewhere, but we'll see.
We have successfully eliminated the 5 am wake up, she sometimes still wakes but fusses for just a min and then goes back to sleep. I would like to ditch another one, but I want to feed her if she is hungry so I think I'm gonna try and give her 5-10 min before I go in to see if she goes down on her own.
I dont think I'll ever sleep again 😭😭😭 E doesn't sleep during day or night. I don't know how to sleep train without waking the other kids. Just so exhausted 😥. She's up at 2am without fail.
I dont think I'll ever sleep again 😭😭😭 E doesn't sleep during day or night. I don't know how to sleep train without waking the other kids. Just so exhausted 😥. She's up at 2am without fail.
Hugs lady. I don't know how to train without waking the other kid either, and I only have one And I hate everyone who says "they'll learn how to sleep through the crying, don't worry!", because 6 months in and it's still happening.
Post by roseinbloom on Oct 4, 2016 22:28:34 GMT -5
Has anyone else noticed their baby having bad dreams? I can keep him from waking all the way up if I can comfort him before he gets too agitated. Popping his paci back in his mouth or a gentle touch is usually enough to relax him and settle back into deeper sleep when he shifts, whimpers, and scrunches up his face.
Do I sound crazy, or has anyone else noticed this? He smiles and giggles in his sleep, too.
"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel." -- Maya Angelou
Has anyone else noticed their baby having bad dreams? I can keep him from waking all the way up if I can comfort him before he gets too agitated. Popping his paci back in his mouth or a gentle touch is usually enough to relax him and settle back into deeper sleep when he shifts, whimpers, and scrunches up his face.
Do I sound crazy, or has anyone else noticed this? He smiles and giggles in his sleep, too.
Yes. LO experiences this too! I wonder what he is dreaming about?
I pretty much got scolded at infant massage the other day for sleep training E by the leader. I said we did sleep training because it was getting really bad. That there wasn't a ton of crying involved. One night she cried 30 minutes at bed and sometimes in the motn. The leader then talked to the whole class how sometimes our babies just need us emotionally because they were in us for 9 months and we have to remember this too shall pass. I wanted to freaking smack her. When you are so tired you're afraid you could hurt your baby and you're crying every day and thinking of calling your doctor for help.. something has to change. She did not suffer at all and I meet her emotional needs thank you very much.
Not cool! Every baby is different and you know your baby best. Babies need to cry sometimes. It is healthy for them too.
I dont think I'll ever sleep again 😭😭😭 E doesn't sleep during day or night. I don't know how to sleep train without waking the other kids. Just so exhausted 😥. She's up at 2am without fail.
So my two share a wall. Her crib is against the wall. I know it may not work for you but I have white noise on high in our room where E is and the door closed. Then my dd1 has a machine in her room too, hers is on lullabies because that's what she's decided recently she wants. So far no waking her big sister. We talked about that there would be crying at bedtime before hand and that she would be fine. There was only a couple days of crying at bedtime. Motn there's not much either. Maybe 1-2 nights a week but it isn't huge screaming so that helps.
DS had the best nights sleep ever last night! No crying at all and only two wake ups at midnight and 4!!! He woke up for the day about 15 mins earlier than normal (5:45), but I'll take it!!!
Well last night was a fail. Down at 7. Up at 10, so we tried to let her cry a bit and see if she would go back down. Then she got stuck sitting (which still happens sometimes) so then H went in and she lost it more. So finally I went in and she ate like she had been asked for days. Then up at 2, and 430, which is the usual norm. I want to feed her if she is hungry but I feel like she should be able to ditch one wake up and spread them out a bit... for 1 glorious week she was just waking at like 10:30 and 4:30...
A fb friend of mine posted on fb asking for help with her 7 month old. He's up every 2 hours and takes crap naps. She specifically asked about sleep training techniques. I was supportive, have ideas and asked her to PM me if she has questions. Then somebody posted that sleep training is wrong and babies need their mamas and co sleeping is the best way. Ugh! She didn't ask for a lecture. She asked for specific help sleep training. Man, some people irk me.
A fb friend of mine posted on fb asking for help with her 7 month old. He's up every 2 hours and takes crap naps. She specifically asked about sleep training techniques. I was supportive, have ideas and asked her to PM me if she has questions. Then somebody posted that sleep training is wrong and babies need their mamas and co sleeping is the best way. Ugh! She didn't ask for a lecture. She asked for specific help sleep training. Man, some people irk me.
Direct her to that Facebook group precious little sleepers. It's a great help. I can't remember if you're on it lol. People can suck it.
Post by sunshineshades on Oct 5, 2016 16:15:05 GMT -5
So after 2.5 weeks of sleep training E goes down without a peep most nights and sleeps 7-2/3 then till about 6. Anything before 6:30 I put her in bed with me until dd1 is up at 7 and we snooze. I really can't believe this is the same baby that I struggled to get down for the night and was up 4-5 times between 9-7.
Post by rachelilly23 on Oct 12, 2016 12:27:20 GMT -5
We've been doing so good except for the last 2 nights. I still let her CIO a couple times.
Today I had to take all 3 kids to the doctor for my middle son's check up and all 3 got flu shots. When K started screaming we could see her tooth coming, so I think that's what's been throwing her off.
Post by awkwardturtle on Oct 12, 2016 15:07:10 GMT -5
I feel like we are regressing. Granted, we are traveling and in a different time zone but he's waking every two hours. Hopefully, he's back to normal after we get home in another week!
Post by carissa325 on Oct 12, 2016 15:39:52 GMT -5
C was sick with a cold last week so we majorly regressed. We cio Monday night and it took 20 minutes but she slept all night. Last night she was asleep in 5 minutes and only woke up once. Whew....hoping it's not a fluke.
We also had a bit of a regression and a couple nights with short stints of crying did the trick. Until last night. Chase was crying for 2 1/2 hours, then woke up again every 2 hours afterwards (fortunately he went down easily those times). He's still congested and it's been almost a month, so DH is bringing him in today to get his ears checked out. If his ears are fine and a tooth doesn't pop out soon, I don't know what to think. Except that it's time for more coffee.
So LO has been able to put herself to sleep since about 4 months but is no closer to STTN than she was then. I feed her then put her in the crib though for bed, but she is awake when I put her in. Maybe feed her then do diaper/PJs? Idk if that will help or not. She is capable of putting herself to sleep without nursing...
So LO has been able to put herself to sleep since about 4 months but is no closer to STTN than she was then. I feed her then put her in the crib though for bed, but she is awake when I put her in. Maybe feed her then do diaper/PJs? Idk if that will help or not. She is capable of putting herself to sleep without nursing...
You need to stretch the nursing from bed by 20-30 minutes. So I do nurse, quick bath, jammies, one book, one song, in bed. The whole thing takes 30 minutes tops.
Apparently even though they go in bed awake, it's still a sleep association that close together.
So LO has been able to put herself to sleep since about 4 months but is no closer to STTN than she was then. I feed her then put her in the crib though for bed, but she is awake when I put her in. Maybe feed her then do diaper/PJs? Idk if that will help or not. She is capable of putting herself to sleep without nursing...
You need to stretch the nursing from bed by 20-30 minutes. So I do nurse, quick bath, jammies, one book, one song, in bed. The whole thing takes 30 minutes tops.
Apparently even though they go in bed awake, it's still a sleep association that close together.
So I've been working on breaking the nurse/sleep association for a while now in hopes of getting better night sleep. It's not working yet. I've been doing bath, nurse, books, jammies, bed for about a month now. There is about 20 minutes between the end of nursing and bed. But I give her a straw cup with an ounce or 2 of breastmilk in it while we read books. Her brother gets some milk then too and we do books as a family. Do you think that's a problem? She goes down awake and cries/fusses for 3-5 minutes, then is up a minimum of 3 times, usually more. And she has to nurse back to sleep, if I try to wait she just gets hysterical and it's really hard to get her back down.
You need to stretch the nursing from bed by 20-30 minutes. So I do nurse, quick bath, jammies, one book, one song, in bed. The whole thing takes 30 minutes tops.
Apparently even though they go in bed awake, it's still a sleep association that close together.
So I've been working on breaking the nurse/sleep association for a while now in hopes of getting better night sleep. It's not working yet. I've been doing bath, nurse, books, jammies, bed for about a month now. There is about 20 minutes between the end of nursing and bed. But I give her a straw cup with an ounce or 2 of breastmilk in it while we read books. Her brother gets some milk then too and we do books as a family. Do you think that's a problem? She goes down awake and cries/fusses for 3-5 minutes, then is up a minimum of 3 times, usually more. And she has to nurse back to sleep, if I try to wait she just gets hysterical and it's really hard to get her back down.
Maybe? I'm not really sure. Since the rules apply for bottles too. But then she isn't taking a sippy in the motn. You could try not doing it. Or maybe give her water in it instead if not having one week make her mad.
So LO has been able to put herself to sleep since about 4 months but is no closer to STTN than she was then. I feed her then put her in the crib though for bed, but she is awake when I put her in. Maybe feed her then do diaper/PJs? Idk if that will help or not. She is capable of putting herself to sleep without nursing...
You need to stretch the nursing from bed by 20-30 minutes. So I do nurse, quick bath, jammies, one book, one song, in bed. The whole thing takes 30 minutes tops.
Apparently even though they go in bed awake, it's still a sleep association that close together.
I am willing to try it I'm just not sure I buy it. She goes to sleep awake and will go down for naps without nursing when she has eaten in the last hour or so. When she wakes up MOTN I give her time to see if she will go back down and she sometimes does. But I guess we'll see... I am willing to be proven wrong if it means waking up less MOTN.
J hasn't slept through in weeks. He wakes up around 3am to eat. I don't really mind too much, but he has stopped wanting to eat in the morning when he wakes up, which makes it tough for my DCP because he gets hungry during her school runs. If I were to drop that feeding do I just feed him less over time until he gets nothing or go cold turkey and let him CIO?
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