Since he is not interested in eating first thing would it be okay if I offered him some oat cereal mixed with a bit of formula? He has been going 5-6 hours every day between last night bottle and first morning bottle for a long time, so it's not just a phase.
I see nothing wrong with this as long as you're spoon feeding it, and not putting the cereal in his bottle.
Of course! My mil tells me all the time that she used to give my bil milk mixed with Farley's biscuits in bottles with the nipples cut off because that's how thick it was. And she gave him these bottles while he was in bed, alone as an infant. Yikes.
So I tried to feed lo when he woke up at 11:20, he wouldn't eat, and whatever managed to get past his lips he spit out. I tried a few times and then finally put the bottle in the fridge at 11:40. Well guess who was starving at 12 and ate the whole bottle. Ugh so frustrating.
Post by nerdykitten on Oct 28, 2016 11:46:13 GMT -5
We are thinking about setting up the PnP in our room for Damian. He rolls onto his tummy at night and gets sooooo mad when he can't figure out how to get his paci back in his mouth. It is debatable on if this is what is causing the girls to wake at night.
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We are thinking about setting up the PnP in our room for Damian. He rolls onto his tummy at night and gets sooooo mad when he can't figure out how to get his paci back in his mouth. It is debatable on if this is what is causing the girls to wake at night.
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Post by gahorseygal on Oct 28, 2016 13:12:30 GMT -5
I think I do really gentle sleep training. After about 2 weeks of crap sleep though I've taken a bit of a step back. We were working on him falling asleep without nursing right before hand but when he didn't sleep for almost 24 hours we did whatever it took.
So this past week I've nursed him to sleep, but the last two nights he hasn't settled with nursing so I'm going to go back to trying to nurse before we get him ready for bed. This is mostly so that H can help put him to bed and DS isn't reliant on the boob.
He's back to just 1 or 2 wake ups a night, but I've only been nursing him once a night this week. The other time he just needs help settling.
Having the kid sleep on his side has helped so much, and he's starting to stay there on his own (without the boppy behind his back).
Naps are still pretty non-existent in the crib. Daycare got one 2 hour nap this week. But they said it's just really random with him. As long as he sleeps well at night though I don't care.
I guess I don't know how to sleep train? DD is not a great sleeper and it's been worse since 4 months.
She takes two 45 minute naps at daycare, and then often falls asleep on our way home since we have an hour drive. The big issue is getting her down for the night. She will fall asleep in the RnP if we rock the shit out of her, but not in her PnP. If we transfer her she wakes up. Then It's a good 2 hours to get her down again. She wants to cluster nurse since we're often away for 10-12 hours during the day, and I think she's frustrated if my production doesn't keep up. There are nights she's not asleep until 11 or 12. Lately she's back up around 3 or 4 so I just bring her into bed with me, which I'm fine with doing.
She will sleep in a PnP in our room until at least Spring. We currently use white noise. Wonder if I need to buy some sort of more comfortable topper? It is a very firm sleep surface.
what you describe my DS1 at 3.5mo at which point in time we decided to just let him CIO with periodic check-ins. It took 7 nights of letting him CIO and there were no m tear and full nights of 10hr of sleep, feed, another 2hous.
I know CIO is not everyone's solution, but it worked SO WELL. All we did was capitalize on the evening nap (your hour drive home). 75min from wake up with started bed time routine, I nursed him and then as he was very drowsy and nearly asleep we put him in the crib. The most he cried was 37min. We checked in on him at first every 10min or so and then every 20, and hen every 30. It didn't take long. It was a life saver. He then also started napping better!
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Post by helloerrbody on Oct 28, 2016 14:56:13 GMT -5
B is a very dependent sleeper. He sleeps well when he nurses to sleep and bed shares with me. Other set-ups and he wakes up and screams.
We tried CIO a week or so ago and he screamed over an hour! Like full on screaming! Most CIO advocates say it gets better each night but B just kept getting worse - crying even harder and longer. So I gave up for now. I rock and nurse him to sleep and then transfer him to the crib. When he wakes up around midnight, he comes in bed for the rest of the night. He naps in the crib or bouncer or in the car or stroller.
helloerrbody , i too would give up if that were the case!
+1. I think that CIO has to be set up well for it to work. Meaning, a good routine, minimal sleep associations, right age, etc. And #1 thing is the baby. Some babies just aren't made for CIO.
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helloerrbody, that's why we gave up sleep training with DD. The doctor always said to push ahead.. "either she breaks or you do." We broke. 3+ hours of screaming, and yes, we broke. So much easier to be up 2-3 times for 10 minutes than it is to hear a baby cry for hours.
@aeroplaneoverthesea, I know what you mean!! I may or may not...no, I DID have a bit of wine that week! It is hard and as stated above, not for everyone.
B is a very dependent sleeper. He sleeps well when he nurses to sleep and bed shares with me. Other set-ups and he wakes up and screams.
We tried CIO a week or so ago and he screamed over an hour! Like full on screaming! Most CIO advocates say it gets better each night but B just kept getting worse - crying even harder and longer. So I gave up for now. I rock and nurse him to sleep and then transfer him to the crib. When he wakes up around midnight, he comes in bed for the rest of the night. He naps in the crib or bouncer or in the car or stroller.
There are many benefits to bed sharing and nursing on demand! If that's what works best for you that's awesome. Don't consider it "giving up"! It's my first choice and just a different approach.
The last two days I've had to sort of do "nap" training because DS literally wasn't sleeping. It seems to be working and he's getting better naps and night time chunks seem to be getting better.
Tonight we did the same thing when he was reluctant to go down. Due to weight issues though I will always nurse on demand during night wake ups... I just want him to be able to get the sleep he needs and fall asleep better.
B is a very dependent sleeper. He sleeps well when he nurses to sleep and bed shares with me. Other set-ups and he wakes up and screams.
We tried CIO a week or so ago and he screamed over an hour! Like full on screaming! Most CIO advocates say it gets better each night but B just kept getting worse - crying even harder and longer. So I gave up for now. I rock and nurse him to sleep and then transfer him to the crib. When he wakes up around midnight, he comes in bed for the rest of the night. He naps in the crib or bouncer or in the car or stroller.
There are many benefits to bed sharing and nursing on demand! If that's what works best for you that's awesome. Don't consider it "giving up"! It's my first choice and just a different approach.
The only reason I've been trying to get him in the crib at all is because I need some adult/me time at night. How it was I was having to go to sleep with him. This new routine I at least get 3 hours first.
There are many benefits to bed sharing and nursing on demand! If that's what works best for you that's awesome. Don't consider it "giving up"! It's my first choice and just a different approach.
The only reason I've been trying to get him in the crib at all is because I need some adult/me time at night. How it was I was having to go to sleep with him. This new routine I at least get 3 hours first.
Yeah, it's definitely important for me that he's in his P&P from 7pm bedtime until I'm ready to go to bed, at least. Otherwise I'm crazy!
I haven't gotten much sleep. In DSs defense he is ridiculously gassy and has been tooting uncomfortably all night, poor guy. I need to figure out if I ate something or what.
There are many benefits to bed sharing and nursing on demand! If that's what works best for you that's awesome. Don't consider it "giving up"! It's my first choice and just a different approach.
The only reason I've been trying to get him in the crib at all is because I need some adult/me time at night. How it was I was having to go to sleep with him. This new routine I at least get 3 hours first.
+1 to needing some adult time. Although he's pretty much always slept in a crib (or pnp at first) I still went to bed when he did to maximize my sleep but I really needed some "alone" time.
The 2am wake up is our challenge. He whines/talks/cries and doesn't settle back down. I draw the line at 45min and in that time I gave him the pacifier 3x. He doesn't even look for them. There are 6 of them in the crib! Then at the 45min mark I gave it to him and he rolled over and fell asleep till almost 5....my pedi is going to say "just let him go" but I'm not quite on board yet.
The 2am wake up is our challenge. He whines/talks/cries and doesn't settle back down. I draw the line at 45min and in that time I gave him the pacifier 3x. He doesn't even look for them. There are 6 of them in the crib! Then at the 45min mark I gave it to him and he rolled over and fell asleep till almost 5....my pedi is going to say "just let him go" but I'm not quite on board yet.
Lo does that too.. but I feel like I'm out of bed a million times replacing the pacifier. I try not to give it to him unless he is crying.
Last night was okay. I've been upping his bottles to 7oz which he has been taking no problem if he's hungry. Overnight he is still all over the place. He ate 4oz at 12am, but was also up at 3 and wasn't hungry. He had his morning bottle at 7, drank 6oz and had a bit of oatmeal at 8:30. Had another 7oz at 11:30, he'll hopefully eat another 7oz at 3:30 and then 7:30. I would love for this schedule to stick.
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