Sleep had been going much better in our house! She goes down a little before 7, eats around 10:30 and 2. She is usually up at 5:30. Would you treat the 5:30 wake up as night and feed then put back to bed? I've just been getting up for the day, but I'm wondering if maybe that's not the best way.
I think it depends on when you want to get up for the day. We get up at 5:30 to get ready for work so I would consider 5am or later up for the day (even on weekends to keep her schedule consistant). I've found sleeping in on weekends messed with her sleep that night and made for a rough Monday at work for me.
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Sleep had been going much better in our house! She goes down a little before 7, eats around 10:30 and 2. She is usually up at 5:30. Would you treat the 5:30 wake up as night and feed then put back to bed? I've just been getting up for the day, but I'm wondering if maybe that's not the best way.
I think it depends on when you want to get up for the day. We get up at 5:30 to get ready for work so I would consider 5am or later up for the day (even on weekends to keep her schedule consistant). I've found sleeping in on weekends messed with her sleep that night and made for a rough Monday at work for me.
It doesn't really matter when we get up, but of course I would prefer not so early. I would be happy to let her babble in her crib for a while, but the problem is any little peep she makes wakes up her sister. Something about hanging with 2 kids at 5am is just not that great!
I think it depends on when you want to get up for the day. We get up at 5:30 to get ready for work so I would consider 5am or later up for the day (even on weekends to keep her schedule consistant). I've found sleeping in on weekends messed with her sleep that night and made for a rough Monday at work for me.
It doesn't really matter when we get up, but of course I would prefer not so early. I would be happy to let her babble in her crib for a while, but the problem is any little peep she makes wakes up her sister. Something about hanging with 2 kids at 5am is just not that great!
Haha, yeah if we didn't have to get up that early I wouldn't! I have to drop DD at daycare at 7am to get to work on time, so early has become the norm here.
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Sleep had been going much better in our house! She goes down a little before 7, eats around 10:30 and 2. She is usually up at 5:30. Would you treat the 5:30 wake up as night and feed then put back to bed? I've just been getting up for the day, but I'm wondering if maybe that's not the best way.
Yay for better.
The rule I follow is that morning before 6:30 perpetuates early wake ups, so I try to avoid it. We use a lot of white noise around here.
Sleep had been going much better in our house! She goes down a little before 7, eats around 10:30 and 2. She is usually up at 5:30. Would you treat the 5:30 wake up as night and feed then put back to bed? I've just been getting up for the day, but I'm wondering if maybe that's not the best way.
My baby is similar-ish.
She goes down at 7pm, wakes up around midnight and then ...somewhere between 2am and 5am...again. If it's before 6:30am, I call it a feeding not a wake up. Baby happily obliges.
Hellz no to getting up at 5:30am. I can't wait until the sun starts coming up again in the 6am hour. It's just easier to wake up early when the Earth is awake.
Post by spicysalmonroll on Jan 24, 2017 11:52:59 GMT -5
Omg I'm never going to sleep again lol. So he had been crying every 45 minutes for the pacifier and I was giving it to him. Last week I stopped that and let him CIO and it was actually working pretty well. He would only cry for max 10 minutes and each day got better and better.
Then this week we started a completely new problem. He rolls over. Spends 2 minutes on his belly before realizing he hates it and screams bloody murder. I had to keep getting up to flip him but right as I'd crawl back into bed he would do it again. This time CIO didn't work, he didn't stop. So now I'm like wtf do I do?!
Then this week we started a completely new problem. He rolls over. Spends 2 minutes on his belly before realizing he hates it and screams bloody murder. I had to keep getting up to flip him but right as I'd crawl back into bed he would do it again. This time CIO didn't work, he didn't stop. So now I'm like wtf do I do?!
I have only a few random thoughts...
1. Can he roll from his belly to his back during the day? If so, this might be a short lived problem as he learns that he can fix himself easily.
2. If he can't, then it still might be a short lived problem once he realizes that he can sleep on his stomach. My daughter just figured this out. She rolls and then gently puts her head down. It's sorta adorable.
3. We still have the baby in the Merlin at night. She can't roll over in that because it's still too much weight for her.
4. We still have her in our room so we could easily flip her back without getting out of bed if we switched to a sleep sack. I'm all kinds of dragging my feet on that, though.
EDIT: Daycare naps are in a sleep sack and she sleeps on her back, side and belly. I'm sorta punting the problem to them as I'm letting her figure out all her rolling/sleep issues there and once she's good to go, we'll lose the Merlin at night. I'm probably not helpful!
Post by pbandjelly on Jan 24, 2017 12:10:17 GMT -5
spicysalmonroll ugh! I'm so sorry. DS just got out of that phase. He just despised being on his belly for an amount of time, yet he wouldn't stop rolling over. And he refused to roll back. Nothing I did helped. I had to let him out grow the phase. It sucked. A lot. He wouldn't sleep on his belly either. I'm sorry, this is less than helpful and it lasted a few weeks. But I will commiserate with you. Maybe try the Merlin, since it is fairly heavy, like Joy mentioned. And if I remember, baby's arms stick out a bit, so that might stop him from rolling over too.
Post by spicysalmonroll on Jan 24, 2017 15:04:36 GMT -5
joy ugh my daycare is the opposite... She wraps him up in a fleece blanket and puts him in a pack n play with pillows on each side so he is all snug and cant move. He apparently loves this and sleeps 3+ hours for her. I am OK with her doing that because she's watching him. But I can't recreate that at night because it's unsafe with nobody watching. I'm praying he will just get used to it and enjoy sleeping on belly but from the sounds of his screams I don't know that'll ever happen.
We've had this problem ever since New Years spicysalmonroll In the beginning DS just did not understand that he could put his head down and relax, he would treat it as tummy time and try and lift his head. Now sometimes he relaxes and puts his head down and falls asleep, other times he still lifts it or he gets hysterical and screams. Whenever he does fall asleep on his tummy he usually (but not always) sleeps better and longer. It's really annoying
DD3 was the same. Since I have yet to sleep train I always put her paci in.
A few days ago she decided to stop rolling for sleep even though she sleeps better that way. Little weirdo. Like most kids she will eventually tummy sleep with her knees drawn up and butt in the air, I assume.
joy ugh my daycare is the opposite... She wraps him up in a fleece blanket and puts him in a pack n play with pillows on each side so he is all snug and cant move. He apparently loves this and sleeps 3+ hours for her. I am OK with her doing that because she's watching him. But I can't recreate that at night because it's unsafe with nobody watching. I'm praying he will just get used to it and enjoy sleeping on belly but from the sounds of his screams I don't know that'll ever happen.
3+ hours of nap? Dang! I wonder if that's why he isn't sleeping as good at night. My daughter totals 1-2.5 hours of nap in a full day.
The only way I'm getting any kind of decent sleep these nights is to bed share after a certain point in the night. I started doing it 2 weeks ago once she could roll over. She's 6 months now and is so big and strong, not a fragile baby anymore who could easily suffocate. My H sleeps in another bed for now and I have no pillows and blankets near her and she's in a lightweight sleepsack. She's still feeding every 3 hours-ish all night. I told her ped about the safe bedsharing at her 6 month apt and she was ok with it, even encouraged it for now.
DD3 straight up is not sleeping tonight and noting is working. I am at a loss.
We had that kind of night too. Gas drops, holding upright, feeding, and Tylenol did nothing. His reflux and gas were awful. Hope you finally got sleep.
DD3 straight up is not sleeping tonight and noting is working. I am at a loss.
We had that kind of night too. Gas drops, holding upright, feeding, and Tylenol did nothing. His reflux and gas were awful. Hope you finally got sleep.
Oh man, those nights are sooo hard. I hope you both eventually got some sleep.
The babies seemed much less sick and back to their normal happy selves yesterday so we are back to sleep training (including for naps) and I couldn't be happier about it. Sleep was SO much better last night. I think a lot of the problem was that they weren't napping well because they were sick and therefore were overtired. Yesterday we worked hard to get them naps and it made a huge difference for the night.
joy ugh my daycare is the opposite... She wraps him up in a fleece blanket and puts him in a pack n play with pillows on each side so he is all snug and cant move. He apparently loves this and sleeps 3+ hours for her. I am OK with her doing that because she's watching him. But I can't recreate that at night because it's unsafe with nobody watching. I'm praying he will just get used to it and enjoy sleeping on belly but from the sounds of his screams I don't know that'll ever happen.
3+ hours of nap? Dang! I wonder if that's why he isn't sleeping as good at night. My daughter totals 1-2.5 hours of nap in a full day.
The only way I'm getting any kind of decent sleep these nights is to bed share after a certain point in the night. I started doing it 2 weeks ago once she could roll over. She's 6 months now and is so big and strong, not a fragile baby anymore who could easily suffocate. My H sleeps in another bed for now and I have no pillows and blankets near her and she's in a lightweight sleepsack. She's still feeding every 3 hours-ish all night. I told her ped about the safe bedsharing at her 6 month apt and she was ok with it, even encouraged it for now.
I know its like a catch 22- he doesn't sleep long at night and wakes exhausted so we let him have the long naps in the morning. I'm glad your pedi was ok with it, I've heard "never tell your doctor if you bedshare or they have to report you" or some shit. No idea where I heard that lol
spicysalmonroll not sure who they would report to. Not only is my provider ok with it but they gave me a sheet on how to do it safely and what rules to follow. She is also against sleep training so maybe her views are a bit unique
We had that kind of night too. Gas drops, holding upright, feeding, and Tylenol did nothing. His reflux and gas were awful. Hope you finally got sleep.
Oh man, those nights are sooo hard. I hope you both eventually got some sleep.
DD3 straight up is not sleeping tonight and noting is working. I am at a loss.
We had that kind of night too. Gas drops, holding upright, feeding, and Tylenol did nothing. His reflux and gas were awful. Hope you finally got sleep.
It was gas here too. Yogurt to back the system up followed by prunes that weren't quite flushing it. I eventually got some gas out and got a three hour stretch at least.
I don't know how I functioned at work today. Sheer grace. At least solving hard computing problems is still easier than parenting while dealing with inept repair guys.
gratefulgirl hopefully tonight is easier for you. I was lucky I was busy today bc it kept me awake. I think it was the introduction to puréed foods this week. I took tonight off to test that theory. If rough night I think his Zantac might need to be increased. Last night felt more reflux than gas.
gratefulgirl hopefully tonight is easier for you. I was lucky I was busy today bc it kept me awake. I think it was the introduction to puréed foods this week. I took tonight off to test that theory. If rough night I think his Zantac might need to be increased. Last night felt more reflux than gas.
It was easier. Still rather gassy but I was able to work it out much more quickly and she wanted to tummy sleep. She can sleep through the gas on her tummy, so that helps a ton.
Post by spicysalmonroll on Jan 27, 2017 8:47:50 GMT -5
It's a miracle this morning. He figured out he can sleep on his belly and doesn't need to be rescued. Still eats every 3 hours but this is the first time he has actually slept the whole 3 hours in between!
gratefulgirl hopefully tonight is easier for you. I was lucky I was busy today bc it kept me awake. I think it was the introduction to puréed foods this week. I took tonight off to test that theory. If rough night I think his Zantac might need to be increased. Last night felt more reflux than gas.
It was easier. Still rather gassy but I was able to work it out much more quickly and she wanted to tummy sleep. She can sleep through the gas on her tummy, so that helps a ton.
Hope you got sleep too!
We did not. First part of night I thought gas/reflux. Second half I thought growth spurt. At 2:30 I kicked DH out of bed and had DS sleep next to me and side nurse. I need sleep!
gratefulgirl hopefully tonight is easier for you. I was lucky I was busy today bc it kept me awake. I think it was the introduction to puréed foods this week. I took tonight off to test that theory. If rough night I think his Zantac might need to be increased. Last night felt more reflux than gas.
It was easier. Still rather gassy but I was able to work it out much more quickly and she wanted to tummy sleep. She can sleep through the gas on her tummy, so that helps a ton.
Hope you got sleep too!
DD is still having problems sleeping due to gas too. I wish she would learn to sleep on her stomach but she seems to be against rolling that way.
Post by bocaburger on Jan 31, 2017 23:49:48 GMT -5
I feel like sleep training isn't working and I don't understand why. We are doing a modified Ferber. It's been like 5 nights I think and the periods of crying don't seem to necessarily be getting shorter. Their nap schedules are still wonky. I guess in my head this was going to solve everything and I don't understand where we went wrong.
I feel like sleep training isn't working and I don't understand why. We are doing a modified Ferber. It's been like 5 nights I think and the periods of crying don't seem to necessarily be getting shorter. Their nap schedules are still wonky. I guess in my head this was going to solve everything and I don't understand where we went wrong.
This advice will suck bc it won't solve your issues. But I do think a lot of sleep training is babies doing it when they are ready. Half of good sleeping is parents but the the other is baby's temperament. I know that sucks bc basically there's only so much you can do.
Unicorn warning: I have good sleepers but despite that it feels like one week a month that are shitty sleepers that first year. Any little thing throws them off as they learn adjust.
So maybe take a break for a few days then try again.
One more thing but do you follow a set bed time routine? I do think this helps to a certain degree.
Good luck! I know you desperately need sleep and a break!
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