Tuesday's Thread

[britta]

Do yo thing.

[vavavictoria]

So tired. We have gone from C going to sleep sometime around 8/9 and sleeping for 5-6 hours to sleep at the same time, wake up at 11, 2, 430, 6 and is still out at 8 currently. This is night #2 of that pattern. I miss my long stretch. I don't know if it's just coincidence or if it is bc her schedule was messed up on Friday and Saturday night due to zoo lights and then date night. Before I had the long stretch I could have handled this but now that I've had some decent sleep it sucks soooo bad.

Today my company is hosting an xmas lunch for the site employees (corporate is in another state and we have about 40-50 people local to me) so I'm going to go visit with C. Other plans are to mail off xmas cards and trade out a shirt I bought from loft that was sold out in my size initially.

Happy Tuesday

[britta]

DS1 did so good in his Christmas concert last night. It really is a joy watching those kids. My face hurt from perma-grin. H showed up just before DS was going on stage, glad he didn't miss it. I survived picking him up from DC, getting dinner, and then hauling both kids and cupcakes there on time, though I felt like I deserved a bottle of wine after.

We have no plans today. My boys are still in their jammies, DS1 is alternating between putting fires out and watching DT. LOL. DS2 is practicing tummy time. So far he hasn't yaked everywhere, so maybe we can do this for more than 2 literal minutes. H said he's the early guy today, so it could be 11 or 12 when he's out or as late as 4 or 5. Love the unpredictability there. If he's out early enough, I may try to sneak out to do some Christmas shopping, though I know he wants to hunt. We'll see.

[jwinct]

DS has been waking up a lot at night and it's getting old fast. I know he doesn't need anything after the first bottle because he was doing just fine with just one wake-up/bottle until we moved him into the crib. I read an article the other day that basically says it's okay to start sleeping training between 3 and 4 months (as opposed to Dr. Ferber's recommended 6 months, which we followed with DD1 and DD2), and DS is going to be 3 months old next week, so I'm seriously considering letting him CIO in the middle of the night. This every 1 1/2 to 2 hours nonsense is getting really old.

I'm almost done Christmas shopping, but I always feel like I don't have enough stuff for my kids because everything is so small now. The bigger the kids get, the smaller the gifts.

[becole]

I'm pretty sure Ferber recommends 4 months sleep training jwinct. He argued that by 6 months it was much harder due to a brain development and leap.

[britta]

jwinct is there where I say I haven't even STARTED Christmas shopping? Le sigh. It's such a struggle for me. I either don't have ideas and spend many a trip walking around aimlessly or I have ideas and just don't have an opportunity to get out. It's the latter this year. I do have some things in my cart on Amazon though, so there's that.

[pixiechar]

LO has a stuffy nose, as do I, since it's going around the office and he comes to work with me at the moment. It's making him wake up more often and he's been grumpier than usual. Sucking it out pisses him off to astronomic levels, but you gotta do what you gotta do. He woke up for the day at 5:30 because of his nose and didn't go back to sleep until about 6:30... which is when my alarm goes off. Thanks, kid.

I still need to send our Xmas cards, and have some more wrapping to do but, all-in-all, we're ready for the holidays (aside from cleaning the house for company). My in-laws fly in on Sunday, so this week is all about tidying up the house, prepping the guest room, and getting all my laundry folded and put away.

Bonus: my MIL often does cooking and cleaning and has asked for a "honey do" list since DS1 has VPK in the morning and DS2 comes with me and she doesn't like to be bored. *happy dance*

[jwinct]

Dec 13, 2016 9:27:01 GMT -5 becole said:

I'm pretty sure Ferber recommends 4 months sleep training jwinct . He argued that by 6 months it was much harder due to a brain development and leap.

Really?! I could have sworn it was 6 months. Now I'm pissed that we waited until 6 months with my girls! Ha! Maybe I'll wait another month. It worked so well for my girls. I don't want to try it too early. Hopefully it won't be too difficult because we already put him in his crib awake to go to bed, and he's often awake when we put him back in the crib in the middle of the night. He just feels like he wants to suck on a bottle for a minute or two before going back down, and the binky doesn't seem to cut it. It's so frustrating. He's been eating a lot lately, so I do wonder if he's about to have another growth spurt. He started sleeping better after his 6 week growth spurt. If that's what's going on, it better happen soon.  

[Deleted]

+1 to not having done Christmas shopping. But I secretly enjoy rushing around on like Christmas Eve to get it all done.

DD is settling herself into a schedule. Last bottle between 8 and 9 and then sleeps til 2:30-3:30. DH is getting so much sleep. DS on the other hand is still waking up eleventh thousand times a night. Can you sleep train a 2.5 year old? We never needed to sleep train him as an infant as he slept in his crib from night one and was a decent sleeper (like 14 hours straight at one point).

[jwinct]

britta - I do the majority of my shopping online. There are Amazon boxes delivered to work for me on pretty much a daily basis. I also do Target and TRU, too, but not nearly as much as Amazon. I did get out and wander around for 4 hours on Sunday and picked up some things, though. The problem with that is my older kids are interrogating me as to where I was shopping and why I took so long. So annoying. I hate the DH talked me into "all the gifts are from Santa," which makes shopping really difficult because I have to do it in completely secrecy. When I was a kid, the stocking and one "big" gift were from Santa and everything else was from my parents. I wish we did that with our kids. Damn you, DH.

[jwinct]

becole - I just saw that Dr. Ferber revised his book. I think we had the original version, so I wonder if he changed the recommended age. Because we definitely wouldn't have waited until 6 months if we could have done it at 4 months! LOL

[danizee]

vavavictoria we have had worse sleep the last few days too on and off for the past two weeks. First in was sickness and now I'm hoping it's a growth spurt and not out of habit she was sleeping through the night before. It's rough when you get used to more sleep and then they trick ya!
So we have used the poor sleep as an excuse to get her into her crib. Actually it was because our room was too big for the humidifier to do anything, it works better in her room. Getting her to sleep in her crib was easier than I though but it's a pain to walk down the hall MOTN. It was much easier when she was right next to me.

[danizee]

My sister is coming over today and we are going to make the dough ornaments with the kids feet/hands. Then I need to go get supplies for DS' birthday party on Saturday (2! I have a two year old 😩😪). And then my nephew has a Xmas performance at daycare tonight. They include the infants and 1-2 year olds! It sounds like wrangling cats into water, can't wait to watch! DS LOVES his cousin though so I'm not sure how I'm going to keep him from running up to the stage

[becole]

Dec 13, 2016 9:56:05 GMT -5 jwinct said:

becole - I just saw that Dr. Ferber revised his book. I think we had the original version, so I wonder if he changed the recommended age. Because we definitely wouldn't have waited until 6 months if we could have done it at 4 months! LOL

I've got the new version, I'll try to check it.

[hikingmama222]

DS was up 4 times last night, he was gassy and wouldn't settle.

Picking my mom up from the airport just before lunch. If DD wakes up soon and we can get out of the house in the next hour I'll take her to the trampoline place that's right next to the airport (it's 30 minutes away, across the city). My mom and sister are coming over this afternoon to bake cookies. DD has preschool but not sure ill be able to convince her to go with my mom and sister here.

[jwinct]

Dec 13, 2016 9:37:01 GMT -5 @snuff9861 said:

+1 to not having done Christmas shopping. But I secretly enjoy rushing around on like Christmas Eve to get it all done.

DD is settling herself into a schedule. Last bottle between 8 and 9 and then sleeps til 2:30-3:30. DH is getting so much sleep. DS on the other hand is still waking up eleventh thousand times a night. Can you sleep train a 2.5 year old? We never needed to sleep train him as an infant as he slept in his crib from night one and was a decent sleeper (like 14 hours straight at one point).

You can definitely sleep train at any age. Get Dr. Ferber's book, Solving Your Child's Sleep Problems. He offers advice for all ages and he's a genius.  

[britta]

Is there a name for the method of sleeping training where you turn their doorknob around and lock them in their room and let them yell at night because, after 2 years of good sleeping, you know their sudden MOTN wakings are total bullshit?



Asking for a friend of course.

[britta]

jwinct I do a lot online, but there's also things that I feel are more conducive to shopping in an actual store for. Especially when I have just a vague idea of what I'm going to get. Like, for example, my sister told me that my nephew is "into anything Paw Patrol." ....ok? What am I supposed to search for when I really don't know what kind of "Paw Patrol anything" I'm looking for? OTOH, my parents wanted pots and pans. Boom. That's easy to search for.

Holy no to what YH has talked you into re: Santa. What a PITA.

On that note, does anyone NOT do Santa? DH's family didn't "do Santa" growing up, so he's not really about doing it with our kids. My family did, but it was....complicated.

[sanibel21]

We did a mall walk this morning which was good. Just eating lunch and heading towards nap time. Despite multiple wake ups last night, I'm feeling ok today so far. A few good night's sleep must have refreshed my reserve.
Glad to hear some others are having more wakings after some decent nights. Did you all feed them every time or try to settle and what was successful? You'd think I've never had a kid before, but I feel like I didn't know what I was doing with DD1 and may have caused some unnecessary need for sleep training and night feeding breaking.
I didn't buy any sweets this week so I don't have anything for lunch dessert. Big bummer.
DH is coming home a little early today and we're all going to a couple Christmas light decorated places.
I bought myself a bunch of clothes over the weekend and ordered more online that they didn't have in store. I hadon't a lot of luck at old Navy, which I hadn't for awhile. My mom said she'd give me the money, take the clothes and wrap them up for me for christmas. Which works out perfect. I need to get some new shoes too. Are ankle boots still in style? With boot cut jeans/pants?

[becole]

Dec 13, 2016 11:30:08 GMT -5 britta said:

Is there a name for the method of sleeping training where you turn their doorknob around and lock them in their room and let them yell at night because, after 2 years of good sleeping, you know their sudden MOTN wakings are total bullshit?



Asking for a friend of course.

It's called "you're a jerk and I'm not coming back until morning."

[britta]

Dec 13, 2016 12:33:38 GMT -5 becole said:

Dec 13, 2016 11:30:08 GMT -5 britta said:

Is there a name for the method of sleeping training where you turn their doorknob around and lock them in their room and let them yell at night because, after 2 years of good sleeping, you know their sudden MOTN wakings are total bullshit?



Asking for a friend of course.

It's called "you're a jerk and I'm not coming back until morning."

I was going to dub it, "Mommy is on to you and not going to play your games."

I mean, it sounds a lot more monster-ish than it was. He was 2 and all of a sudden wanted to wake up and come out of his room at night. We always got up to check on him, took care of any needs, and then put him back in his bed the first time he would get up. Maybe even the second time. After that? You're playing games and mommy ain't a fool. Night night. After 2 weeks he was fine and we didn't need to do it anymore.

[fem]

vavavictoria and jwinct, we've been having worse sleep here too, up every 2 hours last night plus my toddler was up whining at 5:45. I'm so bad at just feeding her regardless if she really needs it or not.

My sister texted today she was worried that my Mom has been looking sick (I'm 6 hours away). I called my Mom and she admitted she's having tests run this afternoon. She had stage 3 breast cancer 4 years ago, so of course I'm on pins and needles worried about the cancer returning. Trying to listen to her advice not to borrow trouble until we know something, but the fact that she tried to hide these tests means she's worried.

[britta]

Oh fem. I'm so sorry. I hope everything works out ok. Thinking of you.

[jwinct]

fem - DH and I feed DS every time he gets up, too, knowing that it's probably just forming a bad habit.

[becole]

Dec 13, 2016 13:00:15 GMT -5 britta said:

Dec 13, 2016 12:33:38 GMT -5 becole said:

It's called "you're a jerk and I'm not coming back until morning."

I was going to dub it, "Mommy is on to you and not going to play your games."

I mean, it sounds a lot more monster-ish than it was. He was 2 and all of a sudden wanted to wake up and come out of his room at night. We always got up to check on him, took care of any needs, and then put him back in his bed the first time he would get up. Maybe even the second time. After that? You're playing games and mommy ain't a fool. Night night. After 2 weeks he was fine and we didn't need to do it anymore.

We had the same thing around 2 and handled it the same. Took 2 nights of ignoring his ass and he was back to sleeping after story time.

[iwantbacon]

fem Thinking positive thoughts for your mom.

[Deleted]

Dec 13, 2016 11:30:08 GMT -5 britta said:

Is there a name for the method of sleeping training where you turn their doorknob around and lock them in their room and let them yell at night because, after 2 years of good sleeping, you know their sudden MOTN wakings are total bullshit?



Asking for a friend of course.

I have this same friend.

[erien22846]

fem positive thoughts to your mom. I can see why she hid the tests given her history and the holiday season.

[erien22846]

We're team give Santa all the credit. Fewer presents to wrap (Santa doesn't wrap presents. How green of him:) )

LO must have sensed how annoyed I was with him yesterday. Wouldn't nap without being held. To make it up to me, he went from 8:40-4:30 between feedings. Then he let me run to Walmart this morning after daycare dropoff for some last minute baking supplies and didn't nurse again until 9 (4.5 hours!). Apparently shopping wore him out because he slept for almost three hours in his crib unswaddled. I was able to mix the gingerbread cookie dough and finalized our Christmas card list.

Probably selfish of me to ask him to let me work on his stocking this afternoon. He doesn't seem concerned that if we don't finish the stocking, Santa won't bring him presents.

[sanibel21]

fem so sorry to hear about your mom. Hoping the results will be back as quickly as possible and that all is well.