Anddd it's Hand, Foot and Mouth. Because, of course it is.
No way. If this weren't real life, I'd assume it's some sitcom on ABC Family.
I'm sorry
Haha maybe I should write a script about it for my last month of mat leave!
Plus everyone is saying "well at least she's getting it now and not when she starts school". I usually say "yeah..." but I really want to tell them that it still freaking sucks right now. I'm sure future me will be thankful. But right now, in the present, it sucks.
Post by rivers and roads on Dec 13, 2016 16:22:27 GMT -5
Few things are more annoying than a H complaining about "how tired" he is after not even getting out of bed once, but simply hearing the baby cry a few times last night. What? Where were you while I sat with him from 3-4:45am? Or at 11 before I had even fallen asleep? At least semi-sleeping?
Post by kellybenelly83 on Dec 13, 2016 17:12:47 GMT -5
swim this is just awful. I hope it's quick and no one else gets it
Well I'm finally home. Interview went well I think, they asked my availability for next week in case I get the next round which I'm taking as a good sign. My mom and I then went shopping and Ryan was a champ only a little whiney. He was great for her too while being babysat.
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We went grocery shopping this afternoon. He's always been a happy shopper, but now he takes it up a notch, excited yell-babbling at strangers, even "waving" (looks more like pointing with a couple wiggly fingers) at a couple old ladies. He's totally going to be the class clown in school.
Almost at the end of the work day with baby. Not as bad as I thought it would be - turns out I can let her free range on my deck and she just happily crawls laps around it.
At my work Christmas party we always exchange gifts (draw names) and then we do white elephant gifts and play a game. Today I got a fart blaster toy, which I was excited about. I laugh at stuff like that and I knew DS would also love it. So he was lurking around corners fart blasting us all tonight, and giggled to himself. He thought it was the funniest thing.
H wrapped DS's birthday gifts tonight. Absolutely horrible wrapping job, but I'll gladly take the volunteered help.
ETA: sometimes he goes back to sleep with shushing, but that's when he's already in the bed with us. Or if he wakes up only 1-2 hours into the night, we can rock and lay him back down. I think most of what happens after is us being desperate for sleep and too lazy to try hard enough to get him back down in his crib without nursing.
Is he nursing very much, or just using it to fall back asleep? Like is he full on eating and emptying you before falling back asleep?
I'm exhausted. W is not teething, just nursing all gd night. Three nights ago we got a 5 hour stretch so I was hoping it was a sign of good sleep to come. But no, he's up every 2-3 hours again the last 2 nights. I don't know how much more I can take but I also don't see a solution since we won't sleep train.
I feel like it'll just be like this forever and then I'll die. 😩
Do you think he's getting up because he's hungry or because it's become routine? My boys and (Ciara) would get up at the same time every night spot on and I would get them a bottle so it was like they expected it. I started putting water in their bottle at night and after a few nights they were kinda like "well this isn't worth getting up for" and they started sleeping through the night. I'm about to start doing this with Ciara. She gets up at 315 every morning and then goes back to sleep after a bottle. I'm having a hard time with it tho. Obviously this is what worked for us so just an idea.
Post by britterrss on Dec 13, 2016 23:36:11 GMT -5
Could I try a sippy with water? But that'd fully wake him up. When he starts fussing his eyes are still closed - sometimes for 5-10 minutes even. So I just nurse him and he falls back asleep. We usually have a 45 min-1 hour wake up at some point. He'll fall back asleep without nursing then a lot of times (he'll play in our bed until he starts yawning then I lay him down and he goes back to sleep).
I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong. I don't mind cosleeping if he'd sleep. I don't mind him sleeping in the crib all night if he'd sleep. I don't mind nursing once even. But 3-5x is killing me. To death!!!
Could I try a sippy with water? But that'd fully wake him up. When he starts fussing his eyes are still closed - sometimes for 5-10 minutes even. So I just nurse him and he falls back asleep. We usually have a 45 min-1 hour wake up at some point. He'll fall back asleep without nursing then a lot of times (he'll play in our bed until he starts yawning then I lay him down and he goes back to sleep).
I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong. I don't mind cosleeping if he'd sleep. I don't mind him sleeping in the crib all night if he'd sleep. I don't mind nursing once even. But 3-5x is killing me. To death!!!
When you say fussing you don't mean a full out cry, right? Maybe leave him and see if he works it out himself and falls back to sleep.
Hi guys! I haven't checked in all day. I was busy doing stuff around the house all day and then tonight we had H's Christmas program at preschool. She did a great job, much better than I was expecting since she's only gone 4 days. DH, unfortunately, didn't make it because he didn't get done with work early enough. I had a feeling he wouldn't get done early since tues/weds have been his late days. I got a call this morning from the ENT's office. S is scheduled for an eval on 1/9, so I'm hoping this round of antibiotics clears her up. I don't want her to live with a double EI for another month.
Could I try a sippy with water? But that'd fully wake him up. When he starts fussing his eyes are still closed - sometimes for 5-10 minutes even. So I just nurse him and he falls back asleep. We usually have a 45 min-1 hour wake up at some point. He'll fall back asleep without nursing then a lot of times (he'll play in our bed until he starts yawning then I lay him down and he goes back to sleep).
I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong. I don't mind cosleeping if he'd sleep. I don't mind him sleeping in the crib all night if he'd sleep. I don't mind nursing once even. But 3-5x is killing me. To death!!!
When you say fussing you don't mean a full out cry, right? Maybe leave him and see if he works it out himself and falls back to sleep.
This. Just now as I sat here in my bedroom I heard a few cries. I looked at my monitor and baby was rolling around. A minute later she was back asleep. Could have been a bad dream or a sleep cycle wake up or who knows.
britterrss I don't want to be *that person* but I'm just going to say it. I'm sorry.
If you want to fix sleep issues, there will be crying. There will be some bad, sleepless nights. It will be a shitty process. You won't enjoy it. But then it gets better. Better for all of you. (Usually. Some babies just don't sleep. But most can, with help.) Only you can decide what is right for your family. If nursing him and being up and co-sleeping is it, then do it. Wait it out and see if he does better on his own eventually. No one will fault you for that. He's your kid. But there are other ways, if you're willing.
(Re-reading this, it sounds much more blunt than I intended. I hope you don't take offense. Just trying to help.)
Post by rivers and roads on Dec 14, 2016 8:41:13 GMT -5
+1 to fussing vs. crying. I used to go in as soon as he started making noises. One day I was unable to get him right away, so he ended up rolling around (eyes shut) fussing and kind of moaning himself back to sleep. It took a few minutes, but he wasn't crying, just figuring it out.
Now I know his cry and his "just getting back to sleep" noise so I only go in for crying. This has gotten most of our naps back to 90minutes because he'll have a sleep cycle wake up but get himself back to sleep. It helps with early in the night wake ups. If it's after 12, its usually a cry and I go in, but it's at least eliminated one wake up.
+1 to fussing vs. crying. I used to go in as soon as he started making noises. One day I was unable to get him right away, so he ended up rolling around (eyes shut) fussing and kind of moaning himself back to sleep. It took a few minutes, but he wasn't crying, just figuring it out.
Now I know his cry and his "just getting back to sleep" noise so I only go in for crying. This has gotten most of our naps back to 90minutes because he'll have a sleep cycle wake up but get himself back to sleep. It helps with early in the night wake ups. If it's after 12, its usually a cry and I go in, but it's at least eliminated one wake up.
This is the same here. I also have a 5 minute rule. I am okay with her fussing/crying for that long. Sometimes she's still just kind of fussing a little bit and I let her go a few minutes longer. But if she's full on crying at the 5 min mark I go in. I have to say, that's rare. I haven't had to go in before 2 in a week or so. I'm sure we will have some relapses but I'll take it for now...
Post by britterrss on Dec 14, 2016 16:10:19 GMT -5
The fussing escalates to crying. We've tried waiting through the fussing. We won't cry it out no matter what so I'm just trying to find other ways. I know there are babies that EBF and sleep! My mom did not let us CIO AT ALL and we slept through the night, though I was formula fed (idk why that would matter).
+1 to fussing vs. crying. I used to go in as soon as he started making noises. One day I was unable to get him right away, so he ended up rolling around (eyes shut) fussing and kind of moaning himself back to sleep. It took a few minutes, but he wasn't crying, just figuring it out.
Now I know his cry and his "just getting back to sleep" noise so I only go in for crying. This has gotten most of our naps back to 90minutes because he'll have a sleep cycle wake up but get himself back to sleep. It helps with early in the night wake ups. If it's after 12, its usually a cry and I go in, but it's at least eliminated one wake up.
I feel like we are on same page so if X can sleep better, so can W... right?
The fussing escalates to crying. We've tried waiting through the fussing. We won't cry it out no matter what so I'm just trying to find other ways. I know there are babies that EBF and sleep! My mom did not let us CIO AT ALL and we slept through the night, though I was formula fed (idk why that would matter).
I never did CIO. My kid sleeps through the night. For us it's because I stopped breastfeeding at night. I come in if she cries and hold her for a bit, then lay her down and shush and pat her gently until she sleeps. My husband does the same. There is obviously some crying because she's a baby, but this is *not* CIO. I suggest doing something similar! There are loads of books about this sort of stuff, I think "The No Cry Sleep Solution" is one but there are a ton of others.
The fussing escalates to crying. We've tried waiting through the fussing. We won't cry it out no matter what so I'm just trying to find other ways. I know there are babies that EBF and sleep! My mom did not let us CIO AT ALL and we slept through the night, though I was formula fed (idk why that would matter).
I never did CIO. My kid sleeps through the night. For us it's because I stopped breastfeeding at night. I come in if she cries and hold her for a bit, then lay her down and shush and pat her gently until she sleeps. My husband does the same. There is obviously some crying because she's a baby, but this is *not* CIO. I suggest doing something similar! There are loads of books about this sort of stuff, I think "The No Cry Sleep Solution" is one but there are a ton of others.
We were starting to try this before he and I both caught bad colds. I guess I should resume now that we're on the mend. I just need MH on board.
The No Cry Sleep Solution actually involves crying too... it's just a matter of being there for it, vs not being there. FWIW I didn't do any CIO with C until he was much older, and it really didn't work for him. He started to STTN when he stopped eating at night, like apunicorn said. However it involved a full week of lots of rocking and shushing and putting him back in his crib and VERY little sleep. It sucked. But it worked. It's hard to convince yourself that that's the better option in the motn though, especially if boob gets them back to sleep soundly after only a few minutes. I get that. Totally been there. You have all my sympathies. It WILL get better eventually.
If ds doesn't stop this new not sleeping unless held phase in a few weeks we'll need to do some more sleep training of some sort. I don't mind nursing 1x or even 2x a night but he needs to be able to sleep in his own room. I'm definitely feeling frustrated right now.
The No Cry Sleep Solution actually involves crying too... it's just a matter of being there for it, vs not being there. FWIW I didn't do any CIO with C until he was much older, and it really didn't work for him. He started to STTN when he stopped eating at night, like apunicorn said. However it involved a full week of lots of rocking and shushing and putting him back in his crib and VERY little sleep. It sucked. But it worked. It's hard to convince yourself that that's the better option in the motn though, especially if boob gets them back to sleep soundly after only a few minutes. I get that. Totally been there. You have all my sympathies. It WILL get better eventually.
Ok ok I'll be honest I never read any books, just going off instinct here and a need for SLEEP But a lot of people talk about that book. And yeah, crying is involved any time you take a boob away, of course. And very sleepless nights for mom and dad.
britterrss I feel like bedsharing and breastfeeding tend to go hand in hand. I hear that from a lot of moms who bedshare there is a lot of night nursing still involved. I feel like since you are right there, it just goes with the territory. It's not a bad thing, but there's a good chance it won't end very soon.
I ebf and DD sleeps all night (knock on wood because I said that and now she'll be up tonight). I didn't take away any nursing. If she gets up, it's still what I do. But she generally only wakes if she gets a stuffy/snotty nose. With this leap she's woke a couple times not very long after going to bed, so in that case I just cuddled and rocked her and she was fine with that.
I think you need to pick a strategy and place and stick with it. Any back and forth or pulling him into your bed he's just going to probably want that. He might be more successful with longer stretches not being so close to you. Maybe try ramping up his food intake during the day also, and then make a plan to stick to 1 sleeping place for him and continue to do wake ups by tending to him if he's crying. As others have stated, I wait to go in until I know she's fully up and crying. I let her stir to fall back asleep. But never let her full on cry.
britterrss I feel like bedsharing and breastfeeding tend to go hand in hand. I hear that from a lot of moms who bedshare there is a lot of night nursing still involved. I feel like since you are right there, it just goes with the territory. It's not a bad thing, but there's a good chance it won't end very soon.
I ebf and DD sleeps all night (knock on wood because I said that and now she'll be up tonight). I didn't take away any nursing. If she gets up, it's still what I do. But she generally only wakes if she gets a stuffy/snotty nose. With this leap she's woke a couple times not very long after going to bed, so in that case I just cuddled and rocked her and she was fine with that.
I think you need to pick a strategy and place and stick with it. Any back and forth or pulling him into your bed he's just going to probably want that. He might be more successful with longer stretches not being so close to you. Maybe try ramping up his food intake during the day also, and then make a plan to stick to 1 sleeping place for him and continue to do wake ups by tending to him if he's crying. As others have stated, I wait to go in until I know she's fully up and crying. I let her stir to fall back asleep. But never let her full on cry.
You're so right. When he used to sleep in the crib beside the bed (not in it), he slept longer. His room is so close to ours... I need to just keep him in there all night for at least a week to see how it goes.
I did this with DS around this time (he got too wiggly for bedsharing in our Queen sized bed) and DD started on her floor bed two (ish) months ago.
I like that I can go lie down with DD and nurse her back to sleep (she also legitimately eats with her lots of MOTN wakeups, but goes straight back down with boob, so I deal with it). I can then either go back to my bed or if DD is having a really bad night with too many wakeups (or if I'm just exhausted) I'll just sleep with her.
DD seems to be following in her brother's sleep footsteps with lots of wakeups but easy to get back down with nursing. Like I think I've mentioned, night weaning did not fix his MOTN wakeups (night weaned at ~18m). By that time it was just one MOTN wakeup, I'd go snuggle him briefly, and that was that. I could also get him to sleep in longer if I went and slept in his bed when he'd wake up at 5ish. It took MH taking over wakeups completely when DS was nearly 2.5 (and DD was nearly here) to actually start sleeping through the night.
I did this with DS around this time (he got too wiggly for bedsharing in our Queen sized bed) and DD started on her floor bed two (ish) months ago.
I like that I can go lie down with DD and nurse her back to sleep (she also legitimately eats with her lots of MOTN wakeups, but goes straight back down with boob, so I deal with it). I can then either go back to my bed or if DD is having a really bad night with too many wakeups (or if I'm just exhausted) I'll just sleep with her.
DD seems to be following in her brother's sleep footsteps with lots of wakeups but easy to get back down with nursing. Like I think I've mentioned, night weaning did not fix his MOTN wakeups (night weaned at ~18m). By that time it was just one MOTN wakeup, I'd go snuggle him briefly, and that was that. I could also get him to sleep in longer if I went and slept in his bed when he'd wake up at 5ish. It took MH taking over wakeups completely when DS was nearly 2.5 (and DD was nearly here) to actually start sleeping through the night.
So many commiserations. I'm right there with you.
How do you keep them in the bed? He likes to open and close drawers and doors.
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