I went to a book club last night. A friend of mine asked me if I wanted to join one that they just started up and I figured why not. I got home around 11 and kids were all in bed. Climbed into bed and C woke up all "you're home you abandoned me how could you now give me your boob!" And woke up to eat like 4 times!
DH thinks it might be because usually after/while we eat dinner, I feed him the babe solids. But DH didn't give him any while I was out.
I hope this doesn't come off as offensive, especially to people involved in the PT/OT/EI world. I just feel like we have become this society that's so focused on the "right" and "wrong" ways to raise our children. Babies have been around a lot longer than PTs have and most of them developed just fine. Obviously it's different if your baby has special needs like muscle tone issues or known delays. My friend's son was quite premature and had significant delays and PT has been super helpful for them. But I feel like if babies are meeting their milestones, we don't need to spend so much stress worrying about if they're spending too much time in the swing or sitting or whatever. For my part I believe that they should be practicing the whole range of their physical abilities, and they spend lots of time supported sitting and standing because they can and they like it. And I let them lead - G loves "standing" so we do that more with her, and M is more into "sitting". They both spend lots of time in the swings/bouncy seats because I have two babies and it's necessary. They are developing just fine. Maybe I'm going about this the wrong way, but I just feel like if I get too in my head with this stuff I will go crazy. My babies are people and individuals, they will develop in their own way and at their own pace, and unless I see evidence of a problem I see no reason to intervene.
Post by remylove1011 on Jan 7, 2017 19:34:47 GMT -5
bocaburger that's probably a good attitude to have. With what I do I think it makes me a bit crazy because I see the impact of every little thing. I fully admit I way over do some things and over worry because my mind jumps to worst case or kids I've seen. I don't wish my brain on anyone!
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I had no idea that so many babies are seeing physical therapists! What are the reasons? I feel like I missed some back stories.
Ds2 was diagnosed with torticollis, which was leading to a flat head. He always had his head turned to the right. He had difficulty turning his head to the left and had a lot of muscle tightness. So, we do PT to strengthen his neck and get him turning his head/sustaining it for longer.
It's likely from him being wedged in my pelvis for like 2 months. He also has a large cephalohematoma on his head from being stuck, but there's nothing to do for that (besides give it time to go down).
You know, bocaburger, I'm glad you said that. Sometimes I felt so overwhelmed by all the advice floating around. I'm not doing anything dangerous. I'm exposing my baby to a wide range of physical movement. I feel pretty good about that
bocaburger, I do agree that some things may be nitpicked and are different for every family. Our PT even said she doesn't love some of the "containment devices" but realizes that they are necessary some of the time.
In general though, early intervention is very beneficial. For most issues, treating them earlier is easier and can get kids on track earlier. However some things certainly do resolve on their own in their own time.
I hope this doesn't come off as offensive, especially to people involved in the PT/OT/EI world. I just feel like we have become this society that's so focused on the "right" and "wrong" ways to raise our children. Babies have been around a lot longer than PTs have and most of them developed just fine. Obviously it's different if your baby has special needs like muscle tone issues or known delays. My friend's son was quite premature and had significant delays and PT has been super helpful for them. But I feel like if babies are meeting their milestones, we don't need to spend so much stress worrying about if they're spending too much time in the swing or sitting or whatever. For my part I believe that they should be practicing the whole range of their physical abilities, and they spend lots of time supported sitting and standing because they can and they like it. And I let them lead - G loves "standing" so we do that more with her, and M is more into "sitting". They both spend lots of time in the swings/bouncy seats because I have two babies and it's necessary. They are developing just fine. Maybe I'm going about this the wrong way, but I just feel like if I get too in my head with this stuff I will go crazy. My babies are people and individuals, they will develop in their own way and at their own pace, and unless I see evidence of a problem I see no reason to intervene.
Yes. It's bad enough dealing with everyone's unsolicited advice and opinions about parenting, then you add in the medicinal guidelines which seem impossible to follow. I struggle a lot with sleep recommendations - of course I want my baby to be safe but I also want to actually sleep. Sure I want my kid to develop normally, but sometimes you just can't hold them and they won't lay on the floor without crying. I gave into co-sleeping because I'm tired of fighting with my child to follow recommendations that just don't work for her.
And I still don't even understand how you would manage to never sit your baby on your lap at all.
In general though, early intervention is very beneficial. For most issues, treating them earlier is easier and can get kids on track earlier. However some things certainly do resolve on their own in their own time.
I totally agree with this if you have an actual issue. I'm mostly talking about babies that are developing normally. I certainly don't have the professional training to dispute actual treatment for babies with delays.
Conversely, the one thing I like about the official recommendations is that they give me some ammunition when my relatives are harassing me about the way I am doing something.
There's so much information and "advice" being thrown around for most topics, but I think in trying to be the best parent possible, the conflicting info just leads to confusion and stress. The Internet and "information age" almost makes it worse rather than better. Perhaps I need to go sit in my rocking chair on the porch.
There's so much information and "advice" being thrown around for most topics, but I think in trying to be the best parent possible, the conflicting info just leads to confusion and stress. The Internet and "information age" almost makes it worse rather than better. Perhaps I need to go sit in my rocking chair on the porch.
This is what my Granny is always saying. "You girls have too much information now! In my day, we didn't worry without cause!"
There's so much information and "advice" being thrown around for most topics, but I think in trying to be the best parent possible, the conflicting info just leads to confusion and stress. The Internet and "information age" almost makes it worse rather than better. Perhaps I need to go sit in my rocking chair on the porch.
Yes! I'm trying to stay away from the internet for advice and instead talk to family, neighbors, pediatrician, and what feels right. The information on the internet is overwhelming.
I really need to stay away from the internet but it's tough because most of the advice I get from family goes against all my instincts and I don't really have IRL mom friends. From family I'm constantly being told that I'm spoiling my baby by holding her too much and that she's manipulating me and I need to regain control, plus plenty of what I'm doing wrong regarding naps, so I'm not sure they are any better than the internet.
bocaburger I agree with everything you wrote. I think there's so much information available that it's too much.
I also keep going back to the babies shouldn't be sitting up supported (like on parents lap)..I 100% disagree with that. How are kids to learn to sit up unless exposed to it. I know I'm not a pediatric PT but I'm a neuro PT (i.e. Therapy after stroke, TBI, etc). Skills are only learned when actually performing them..so walking only gets better by walking, but doesn't help with doing steps. DS when reclined back on me does sits ups to unsupported sit. This is a great strengthening exercise he wouldn't get being on his back. I do get why all the devices aren't great for long term use. But in short amount of times they also teach other skills like self play. Obviously when there are motor delays the "rules" change. But hollyberry I feel like your PT is looking for issues..and bc each person is different you'll always find issues. I'd take what she says with a grain of salt. Follow her guild lines but don't go crazy. Do what you need to when she's not around.
meagpt22, this is where I'm at. How do you learn to swim without practicing? I know humans are predisposed to language, but how do they learn a language without being exposed to it and practicing?
My neighbor's pedi told her that some babies just don't like to sit when they can't do it by themselves. Until then, you just have to make them practice. And this has been true for DS as well as the neighbor's baby. Neither liked to sit until they could do it on their own.
Have any of the babies been biting while nursing? R does this sometimes, but I don't feel any tooth buds yet. I didn't have his constant problem with DD. It hurts so badly to have your nipple bit and sometimes pulled in a baby's mouth.
Have any of the babies been biting while nursing? R does this sometimes, but I don't feel any tooth buds yet. I didn't have his constant problem with DD. It hurts so badly to have your nipple bit and sometimes pulled in a baby's mouth.
DD3 does. If it's a problem have you tried unlatching him whenever he does it!
gratefulgirl Yup, but that doesn't stop him from doing it again later. Telling him not to do it and unlatching him is not enough of a deterrent from gnawing off my nipples with his gums!
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Have any of the babies been biting while nursing? R does this sometimes, but I don't feel any tooth buds yet. I didn't have his constant problem with DD. It hurts so badly to have your nipple bit and sometimes pulled in a baby's mouth.
Yes!!! But she has 2 teeth, and it really hurts. I haven't been able to discourage her biting, even though I've tried. I noticed she clamps down hard when she's just about done nursing. Now I try to beat her to it and put my finger in to break her latch before she can bite me. Maybe something like that will work for you? I'm sorry you're going through it too. It's the worst, and makes me dread every feeding.
Have any of the babies been biting while nursing? R does this sometimes, but I don't feel any tooth buds yet. I didn't have his constant problem with DD. It hurts so badly to have your nipple bit and sometimes pulled in a baby's mouth.
Yes!!! But she has 2 teeth, and it really hurts. I haven't been able to discourage her biting, even though I've tried. I noticed she clamps down hard when she's just about done nursing. Now I try to beat her to it and put my finger in to break her latch before she can bite me. Maybe something like that will work for you? I'm sorry you're going through it too. It's the worst, and makes me dread every feeding.
That's when DS does it too when he's done. He goes through spurts where he'll do it several days in a row then take a break. The first time is awful and I flinch every time therefore. No teeth yet but almost broken through but it still hurts.
Post by gratefulgirl on Jan 8, 2017 12:31:27 GMT -5
Since DD2 is cutting her 2 year molars I keep catching her chewing DD3's teethers or pacis if I leave them out. I cannot really blame her. I did, however, have to draw the line when my 2 year old thumb sucker asked to take a paci to nap.
Is it a bad idea to introduce solids, cribs, and sleep training all around the same time? That feels like a lot of change at once but they're all things that need to happen sooner rather than later.
Is it a bad idea to introduce solids, cribs, and sleep training all around the same time? That feels like a lot of change at once but they're all things that need to happen sooner rather than later.
You do what you gotta do. I'm trying to introduxe change slowly.
We put the baby to bed in her crib and then move her to our room at first wake up. I don't want to change this until at least six months.
I'm waiting on sleep training to see how solids go. I'm also slowly reducing the amount she gets at night/increasing amount during the day.
But, I have one and luxury of taking my time.' If I had two, I might be desperate for sleep and say well, this is all going to happen at once - so be it.
Umm... So don't watch a Netflix documentary about missing children before bed. I want to go hold DS tight and watch cartoons to calm down before trying to sleep.
Post by remylove1011 on Jan 9, 2017 2:57:01 GMT -5
bocaburger I don't think it's a bad idea, but doing cribs and sleep training at the same time might be more difficult. It might go easier if you give them like two weeks to get used to sleeping in a new place and then sleep train. I don't think the solids will be a huge deal in with everything else. We're not moving DD to her crib until after 6 months, but mostly because its upstairs and our room is downstairs. She wakes up too often for me to be treking up the stairs that much! But we're getting ready to start solids here as well.
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Is it a bad idea to introduce solids, cribs, and sleep training all around the same time? That feels like a lot of change at once but they're all things that need to happen sooner rather than later.
No bc ideally the solids won't be an issue. You can always start slowing. With DD I only did solids at dinner for the first month..I couldn't handle three meals/day. So you can try solids in AM so it's far removed from bedtime.
And sleep training and cribs go hand in hand IMO. No sense dealing doing the training twice. If it's too much then you can back off on one of them. I'm a big fan of try something until it doesn't work then develop a new plan or theory.
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