Groundhog Day Randoms

[marshian]

I desperately want a nap but I'm stuck on a conference call. And there are guys working in my home. Ugh.

[onesweetworld]

Feb 2, 2017 14:33:22 GMT -5 marshian said:

I desperately want a nap but I'm stuck on a conference call. And there are guys working in my home. Ugh.

Nap while listening to he conference call? I zone out every week while on mine.

[marshian]

Feb 2, 2017 15:33:44 GMT -5 onesweetworld said:

Feb 2, 2017 14:33:22 GMT -5 marshian said:

I desperately want a nap but I'm stuck on a conference call. And there are guys working in my home. Ugh.

Nap while listening to he conference call? I zone out every week while on mine.

I would but I share an office with two other people. I'm about to go sneak into someone's office who isn't in today and put my head down. 

[onesweetworld]

Feb 2, 2017 15:37:52 GMT -5 marshian said:

Feb 2, 2017 15:33:44 GMT -5 onesweetworld said:

Nap while listening to he conference call? I zone out every week while on mine.

I would but I share an office with two other people. I'm about to go sneak into someone's office who isn't in today and put my head down. 

I'm counting down the 2 hours until I get to go home and turn off for the weekend. I already have my out of office on.

[morwen]

Feb 2, 2017 17:10:12 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

I'm not planning on any birth control after this. We have one embryo that we will test for normality. Other then that, it's up in the air but both DH and I would like a 3rd but we feel so insanely grateful for the twins. More than we could have hoped for.

AFM, my mom is being such a B. Every other grandparent got their TDap. I know my doctor said they didn't need to as evidence didn't show it was helpful, but I would just prefer she get it. My c/s is in 8 days so I'm already annoyed with her as it takes 2 weeks for antibodies to form. She says she's fine with waiting 10 weeks. WTAF?! Then I have to wonder if I want my dad visiting even though he did get the TDap but could contract pertussis from her. My moms excuse is that she got it 6 years ago and is covered and her endo (!!!) says she doesn't need it again. Oh, and she's "immune compromised" because of type I diabetes (yet she can get the flu shot, which is also a non-live virus vaccine).

This is the text she just sent me:

"How frequently do your prenatal obstetrician & proposed pediatrician
receive their dtap vaccine? Since your call was rec'd off guard, I did speak about dtap to my endo last Nov 16 and I provided my medical records to u. At that time, my endo told me my dtap is current and didn't need another dtap. The people u surround with were not current in their vaccines. I, on the other hand, am current in ALL my vaccines. Dtap are strongly recommended for pregnant mothers. Pls provide feedback as to what your caregivers do regarding dtap considering their skin contact to many pregnant women and their children"

WTAF?! First of all, don't assume nobody else was current on vaccines. Second, an endo isn't a fucking OB or MFM and third, my doctors won't be spending extended time with my children. Oh, and fuck you for being difficult, mom. She's just power struggling. I'm so damn annoyed and really just want to tell her that her and my father can wait 10 weeks.


ETA: sorry this was such a novel. Also, this wasn't an "out of the blue" call. We discussed her calling her PCP about whether it would be harmful if she got it again and she didn't call. She didn't make it a priority. Which is fucking annoying.

Ugh, I'm sorry you're dealing with this drama

[wannabmama]

@wineandcupcakes ugh...I don't get people's resistance to just getting the damn vaccine. I'm sorry you're dealing with her attitude!

[marshian]

@wineandcupcakes - Sorry your mom is being a pain and making it about her! She needs to just shut up and do it. You could threaten her with no visits until 2 weeks after she gets it. Or maybe mask and gloves if you want to give some ground.

Not sure about your dad. Ask your MFM about transmission.

[onesweetworld]

Feb 2, 2017 16:04:01 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

Feb 2, 2017 9:20:29 GMT -5 hpnegirl said:

Every time I rolled over last night, I was in so much pain trying to move.. the next 12 weeks are going to be long..

Worst pain ever = third tri + night + rolling over + an extremely full bladder.

Oh man, so uncomfortable.

Add SPD to that pain and you have my life. I'd rather have a root canal.

[onesweetworld]

Feb 2, 2017 17:24:56 GMT -5 wannabmama said:

@wineandcupcakes ugh...I don't get people's resistance to just getting the damn vaccine. I'm sorry you're dealing with her attitude!

I honestly want to kill MH's family with this.

[ladytiffany24]

Man @wineandcupcakes, your mom seems like a pain in the ass! No offense! I'm sorry you're dealing with her drama.

[hpnegirl]

@wineandcupcakes she can play the diabetes card all she wants but she can still get the shot. I made my type I grandfather get his updated when DS1 was born. In fact, his doctor encouraged it because he's immuno-compromised.

Ugh, I'm sorry she's being a bitch

[marshian]

Feb 2, 2017 17:33:10 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

Feb 2, 2017 17:27:42 GMT -5 marshian said:

@wineandcupcakes - Sorry your mom is being a pain and making it about her! She needs to just shut up and do it. You could threaten her with no visits until 2 weeks after she gets it. Or maybe mask and gloves if you want to give some ground.

Not sure about your dad. Ask your MFM about transmission.

I told her that my dad would also not be able to visit despite his vaccination. Realistically, they could both be carriers and transmit it despite current vaccination and my MFM wasn't really concerned about it.

I'm just angry because it's a small thing to do that may be helpful and get these babies through their first flu season before they can be vaccinated.

She can get over herself. Sounds like this is all really just a power trip. She needs to realize you're the mom, not her.

Sorry it's such a pain.

[silvermelody]

Re: groundhog, we're getting another week of rain. We went from being thankful for every drop due to drought to being sick of rain in about six weeks

marshian sorry you're sick!

icedtea yay viability!

Re: surgery, I need to lose significant weight and then I'll need an apron removal and tummy tuck but it'll be a few years probably. And a long recovery so I need to be ready for it

I had my tubes removed so we are done for sure. Kinda weird after my IF history but DH and I are v surprisingly fertile. My period came back 10 months PP

[juliayadda]

Feb 2, 2017 17:10:12 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

I'm not planning on any birth control after this. We have one embryo that we will test for normality. Other then that, it's up in the air but both DH and I would like a 3rd but we feel so insanely grateful for the twins. More than we could have hoped for.

AFM, my mom is being such a B. Every other grandparent got their TDap. I know my doctor said they didn't need to as evidence didn't show it was helpful, but I would just prefer she get it. My c/s is in 8 days so I'm already annoyed with her as it takes 2 weeks for antibodies to form. She says she's fine with waiting 10 weeks. WTAF?! Then I have to wonder if I want my dad visiting even though he did get the TDap but could contract pertussis from her. My moms excuse is that she got it 6 years ago and is covered and her endo (!!!) says she doesn't need it again. Oh, and she's "immune compromised" because of type I diabetes (yet she can get the flu shot, which is also a non-live virus vaccine).

This is the text she just sent me:

"How frequently do your prenatal obstetrician & proposed pediatrician
receive their dtap vaccine? Since your call was rec'd off guard, I did speak about dtap to my endo last Nov 16 and I provided my medical records to u. At that time, my endo told me my dtap is current and didn't need another dtap. The people u surround with were not current in their vaccines. I, on the other hand, am current in ALL my vaccines. Dtap are strongly recommended for pregnant mothers. Pls provide feedback as to what your caregivers do regarding dtap considering their skin contact to many pregnant women and their children"

WTAF?! First of all, don't assume nobody else was current on vaccines. Second, an endo isn't a fucking OB or MFM and third, my doctors won't be spending extended time with my children. Oh, and fuck you for being difficult, mom. She's just power struggling. I'm so damn annoyed and really just want to tell her that her and my father can wait 10 weeks.


ETA: sorry this was such a novel. Also, this wasn't an "out of the blue" call. We discussed her calling her PCP about whether it would be harmful if she got it again and she didn't call. She didn't make it a priority. Which is fucking annoying.

Your moms endo is correct though. You only have to get pertussis vaccine booster once as an adult and tetanus diphtheria every ten years.

[silvermelody]

@wineandcupcakes she's being a B for sure. My parents both got a booster for DS birth even though my mom sometimes has bad reactions to vaccines. I didn't bother having them get another one this time around since it's only been 2.5 years.

She's being manipulative.

[juliayadda]

Feb 2, 2017 18:10:29 GMT -5 juliayadda said:

Feb 2, 2017 17:10:12 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

I'm not planning on any birth control after this. We have one embryo that we will test for normality. Other then that, it's up in the air but both DH and I would like a 3rd but we feel so insanely grateful for the twins. More than we could have hoped for.

AFM, my mom is being such a B. Every other grandparent got their TDap. I know my doctor said they didn't need to as evidence didn't show it was helpful, but I would just prefer she get it. My c/s is in 8 days so I'm already annoyed with her as it takes 2 weeks for antibodies to form. She says she's fine with waiting 10 weeks. WTAF?! Then I have to wonder if I want my dad visiting even though he did get the TDap but could contract pertussis from her. My moms excuse is that she got it 6 years ago and is covered and her endo (!!!) says she doesn't need it again. Oh, and she's "immune compromised" because of type I diabetes (yet she can get the flu shot, which is also a non-live virus vaccine).

This is the text she just sent me:

"How frequently do your prenatal obstetrician & proposed pediatrician
receive their dtap vaccine? Since your call was rec'd off guard, I did speak about dtap to my endo last Nov 16 and I provided my medical records to u. At that time, my endo told me my dtap is current and didn't need another dtap. The people u surround with were not current in their vaccines. I, on the other hand, am current in ALL my vaccines. Dtap are strongly recommended for pregnant mothers. Pls provide feedback as to what your caregivers do regarding dtap considering their skin contact to many pregnant women and their children"

WTAF?! First of all, don't assume nobody else was current on vaccines. Second, an endo isn't a fucking OB or MFM and third, my doctors won't be spending extended time with my children. Oh, and fuck you for being difficult, mom. She's just power struggling. I'm so damn annoyed and really just want to tell her that her and my father can wait 10 weeks.


ETA: sorry this was such a novel. Also, this wasn't an "out of the blue" call. We discussed her calling her PCP about whether it would be harmful if she got it again and she didn't call. She didn't make it a priority. Which is fucking annoying.

Your moms endo is correct though. You only have to get pertussis vaccine booster once as an adult and tetanus diphtheria every ten years.

Quoting myself to say that the CDC and Health Canada have different recommendations on this very interesting...

[juliayadda]

Feb 2, 2017 18:19:51 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

Feb 2, 2017 18:14:25 GMT -5 juliayadda said:

Quoting myself to say that the CDC and Health Canada have different recommendations on this very interesting...

Her endo is right! And normally I wouldn't mind, but for pregnancy the rules get a bit different and studies have shown that the efficacy of the vaccination decreases by 50% within 4 years. She got hers 7 years ago so I'm assuming it's even less effective.

I'm just annoyed that she won't get it and she's just being difficult for the sake of it. It's infuriating. Particularly because she's using money and her diabetes as a reason - yet I happen to know her finances and she's doing quite well in that regard, and got the flu and pneumonia vaccines already this past fall - one of which was a live virus and poses the most risk. It's just making me angry. Like, get the effing shot.

I also agree with you too. It is just a shot not like a face tattoo.

[icedtea]

@wineandcupcakes, I'm sorry she's being difficult. Does she have to be a caregiver? Relying on someone who likes to power struggle for childcare seems like promised stress :\

Good for you for standing up to her.

[icedtea]

Feb 2, 2017 18:43:10 GMT -5 juliayadda said:

Feb 2, 2017 18:19:51 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

Her endo is right! And normally I wouldn't mind, but for pregnancy the rules get a bit different and studies have shown that the efficacy of the vaccination decreases by 50% within 4 years. She got hers 7 years ago so I'm assuming it's even less effective.

I'm just annoyed that she won't get it and she's just being difficult for the sake of it. It's infuriating. Particularly because she's using money and her diabetes as a reason - yet I happen to know her finances and she's doing quite well in that regard, and got the flu and pneumonia vaccines already this past fall - one of which was a live virus and poses the most risk. It's just making me angry. Like, get the effing shot.

I also agree with you too. It is just a shot not like a face tattoo.

I like this, and am going to use it if anyone gives me crap (H has yet to tell his family). 

[easilyunamused]

Sorry @wineandcupcakes. Doesn't seem like your mom is willing to play nice. And I see you need her for childcare. But that won't be until later on, correct? I'd just let her know she can see the babies after she gets the shot.

Would she push back about not watching them? Seems like if she's acting out about this, what's to come once she starts to help take care of them?

Sorry you have to deal with this a week before you give birth.

[icedtea]

@wineandcupcakes, I have linked to this before I think, as a time waster, but it may give you some validation to read. (Though, the posters there are...extreme.) community.babycenter.com/groups/a4725/dwil_nation

[wannabmama]

Feb 2, 2017 17:34:27 GMT -5 onesweetworld said:

Feb 2, 2017 17:24:56 GMT -5 wannabmama said:

@wineandcupcakes ugh...I don't get people's resistance to just getting the damn vaccine. I'm sorry you're dealing with her attitude!

I honestly want to kill MH's family with this.

I'd like to help you

[icedtea]

I almost want H's family to put up a fight so I can let out my preg rage. But they are kind people and I'm sure they'll be fine.

[icedtea]

Feb 2, 2017 19:59:26 GMT -5 @wineandcupcakes said:

Feb 2, 2017 19:29:10 GMT -5 icedtea said:

@wineandcupcakes , I have linked to this before I think, as a time waster, but it may give you some validation to read. (Though, the posters there are...extreme.) community.babycenter.com/groups/a4725/dwil_nation

Which thread is it? I'm excited to read!

Yea, DHs parents literally went out the day I asked. Very nice. They also know I'm not effing around re: contact with babies.

The whole board is a goldmine (lots of in-law stuff, but tons of family stuff too), but start with some of the best of's:

community.babycenter.com/post/a35854930/postpartum_stories
community.babycenter.com/post/a30213931/the_best_of_boundary_stompers..
community.babycenter.com/post/a32806529/the_best_of_pa
community.babycenter.com/post/a41548204/best_of_the_entitlement_stories

[onesweetworld]

Ugh I have a stomach ache. I really hope it doesn't get worse I ate chicken for dinner and I've had salmonella poisoning twice so any time I get rubbery chicken, I immediately think I'm getting sick.

[PirateCat]

@wineandcupcakes that is infuriating. My H is immunosuppressed and gets all the vaccines to protect him. I'm sorry that you are dealing with this. Am I understanding correctly that she would rather wait 10 weeks to see the babies than get the vaccine??

[onesweetworld]

I've never seen the movie Groundhog Day...changing that now, it just started on AMC