Confess!

[dc2london]

Feb 17, 2017 10:10:10 GMT -5 Cherhorowitz said:

Feb 17, 2017 10:03:45 GMT -5 @bruxannie said:

it still pisses me off though, that their own personal financial position is more important than the civil rights of many.

And I say this as a white person who pays oodles of taxes.

Agreed. But I get it. The thing is, they so rarely justify it this way.

I'm a white person who pays a shit ton of taxes, but I couldn't in good faith vote for such a fuckwad who could potentially harm so many people I care about. But I understand that there are people out there that can. But they never use that as their justification for their vote. If they said, "my money is my top priority." Fine. It's not mine but fine. But they always go on some rant about Obama, HRC, EMAILS!, Benghazi, jobs, need a businessman, blah blah blah.

At which point, I default to my previous point, and I just tell myself you're not that bright.

Yes, thank you!!
I know it's not my place to tell anyone else how they should prioritize their vote, but people who prioritize their own pocketbooks as #1 vote motivation, I just....it makes me sad.

[mena]

GL @elodin!

[claud]

Feb 17, 2017 9:56:18 GMT -5 mack said:

Feb 17, 2017 9:33:07 GMT -5 Cherhorowitz said:

I think being apart politically from your spouse is one thing. I mean, as long as the issues weren't rooted in bigotry and they were more conservative on the government spending/military side, I could probably deal. But if my spouse was actually defending this joke of an administration, I would lose my mind. I am dumbfounded how anyone can be okay with what's going on, regardless of party.

This really sums up my marriage perfectly as far as politics goes. We look at things differently WRT the role of government in issues and spending. However, we both think this administration is a joke and see eye to eye when it comes to civil rights and equality issues. So, in the end it doesn't cause tension because we agree on what I consider the most important issues. 

I think this is a big thing. I can easily discuss politics with people who have different views on how government should work to accomplish the same goals (for example, more localized government than more centralized, etc). But most of the Trump voters I have tried talking to don't even have the same goals for the country - it makes it nearly impossible to have a rational discussion.

[Cherhorowitz]

The Johnny Cash picture will probably be my Christmas card this year. What are the chances we met Johnny Cash and got a pic with him?! We're so lucky!

[McBenny]

I actually like doing laundry.

[Emmentaler]

Feb 17, 2017 10:11:02 GMT -5 @bruxannie said:

Feb 17, 2017 10:09:42 GMT -5 @cacophony said:

I did not...

Just gagged and vomited in my mouth a bit.

[rocksforludo]

Feb 17, 2017 10:07:10 GMT -5 @cacophony said:

Confession:I plan to christen my new car by having sex in it.



I think differing political views is something that's either important to you in a marriage or not. Those that don't care shouldn't be judged, it's a matter of preference. DH and I have always been very liberal but this time he voted republican. The day of the election we just looked at each other and said we'll love each no matter who wins or what happens.

This post mash-up is making me laugh.

[Deleted]

Feb 17, 2017 10:12:20 GMT -5 Cherhorowitz said:

The Johnny Cash picture will probably be my Christmas card this year. What are the chances we met Johnny Cash and got a pic with him?! We're so lucky!

I just went to look at it.  why am I so happy???

[McBenny]

I shared before that I met some really nice ladies at the last Mom's Night Out and we really clicked and talked all night and then one of them brings up Trump and being a supporter. I didn't say a word and really listened (I have grown from here to do this). She expressed her reasons and I really listened. I came to the conclusion that when you are a white woman then your focus could be on other stuff like hers was. It was an epiphany for me. I don't think we can be friends though cause I can't relate.

[Cherhorowitz]

Feb 17, 2017 10:14:59 GMT -5 @bruxannie said:

Feb 17, 2017 10:12:20 GMT -5 Cherhorowitz said:

The Johnny Cash picture will probably be my Christmas card this year. What are the chances we met Johnny Cash and got a pic with him?! We're so lucky!

I just went to look at it.  why am I so happy???

I'm not kidding. It makes me so excited. I will probably take a picture of my kid off my wall and hang it in it's place.

[McBenny]

Feb 17, 2017 9:54:17 GMT -5 @sterling said:

Feb 17, 2017 9:52:24 GMT -5 @nellybluth said:

We are laughing at rocksforludo 's kid drawing everyone having fun while she is locked in the basement, angrily doing laundry. 

And she made her a ginger, I feel like no one is giving the kids props for her attention to detail.

I don't have a list of the gingers of the board so that detailed escaped me.

[jbm]

Feb 17, 2017 10:02:12 GMT -5 mack said:

I confess that I understand why one group of people voted for Trump. If you are a rich, white person and you tell me you voted for Trump, my reaction is like ok I can see that.

I see you have met my mom.  If she tells me is "just waiting for tax reform" one more time, I'm going to strangle her.

[Cherhorowitz]

McBenny, I'm a white woman and I have found I can't be friends with white ladies who vote Trump because I can't relate either.

[Deleted]

I haven't had sex in a car since I was 16. BTDT, don't need a steering wheel in my back again.

[Emmentaler]

Feb 17, 2017 10:15:19 GMT -5 @nellybluth said:

Feb 17, 2017 10:14:15 GMT -5 classicicedtea said:

One time when I was watching Deep Blue Sea with my parents and I had to explain they were looking for her vibrator when they were looking for batteries.

I would have said "personal massager"

I would have pretended to be clueless. And blind.

[Deleted]

Feb 17, 2017 10:16:37 GMT -5 McBenny said:

Feb 17, 2017 9:54:17 GMT -5 @sterling said:

And she made her a ginger, I feel like no one is giving the kids props for her attention to detail.

I don't have a list of the gingers of the board so that detailed escaped me.

I'm going to make a list of them all so we can refer back to it and shun them accordingly.

[McBenny]

Feb 17, 2017 10:11:14 GMT -5 mack said:

Feb 17, 2017 10:09:23 GMT -5 @bruxannie said:

100% fact.  Good luck with that awesome Obamacare replacement, you dillweeds.

Like the week of inauguration we were walking around the White House and there was this group of teenagers wearing MAGA hats. One of them was Hispanic and I wanted to scream at him

HELLO THIS MAN IS PLANNING ON BUILDING A WALL TO KEEP YOUR PEOPLE OUT 

Ok but just because he was Hispanic doesn't mean he was Mexican so no it would not pertain to him. Just pointing that out. Like he could have been Cuban and a lot of them are Republican.

[Cherhorowitz]

I last had car sex in my early 20's probably. Then I got my own place with no roommates. Bed, kitchen, couch, the world is mine.

[mack]

Feb 17, 2017 10:15:51 GMT -5 McBenny said:

I shared before that I met some really nice ladies at the last Mom's Night Out and we really clicked and talked all night and then one of them brings up Trump and being a supporter. I didn't say a word and really listened (I have grown from here to do this). She expressed her reasons and I really listened. I came to the conclusion that when you are a white woman then your focus could be on other stuff like hers was. It was an epiphany for me. I don't think we can be friends though cause I can't relate.

i read a really interesting article on white woman trump voters. the analysis was that these women relate more with their whiteness than with their woman-ness.

But you are also right, they have the privilege to not worry about the other stuff/

[cadien]

Feb 17, 2017 9:47:35 GMT -5 @bruxannie said:

All this talk of politics made me subscribe to The Atlantic.

I love the Atlantic.

I used to read Harper's but the editor went around the bend during George W's administration. Just foaming at the mouth all over every issue about fascism.

[librarychica]

To McBenny's point, my Cuban inlaws voted Trump. My white, working class parents didn't. A lot of it comes down to worldview and what you prioritize, I think.

[McBenny]

I used to have sex in my car but in the front seat and I got on top.

[angelashly]

Feb 17, 2017 10:19:13 GMT -5 Cherhorowitz said:

I last had car sex in my early 20's probably. Then I got my own place with no roommates. Bed, kitchen, couch, the world is mine.

with donuts or without

[mack]

Feb 17, 2017 10:18:52 GMT -5 McBenny said:

Feb 17, 2017 10:11:14 GMT -5 mack said:

Like the week of inauguration we were walking around the White House and there was this group of teenagers wearing MAGA hats. One of them was Hispanic and I wanted to scream at him

HELLO THIS MAN IS PLANNING ON BUILDING A WALL TO KEEP YOUR PEOPLE OUT 

Ok but just because he was Hispanic doesn't mean he was Mexican so no it would not pertain to him. Just pointing that out. Like he could have been Cuban and a lot of them are Republican.

Well, yes, I realize that not all Hispanics are Mexican. But, barring being from a place like Cuba, his family was probably from South of where Trump wants to build a wall which still affects the general route for immigration for people of Central American and South American descent. But really, it's not about the wall it's about the sentiment that the wall represents against people who are not white. So it does affect him. 

[librarychica]

Feb 17, 2017 10:21:38 GMT -5 McBenny said:

I used to have sex in my car but in the front seat and I got on top.

This is the only way to have car sex or in the bed of a truck. My backseat was always to small.

[Cherhorowitz]

Feb 17, 2017 10:22:20 GMT -5 angelashly said:

Feb 17, 2017 10:19:13 GMT -5 Cherhorowitz said:

I last had car sex in my early 20's probably. Then I got my own place with no roommates. Bed, kitchen, couch, the world is mine.

with donuts or without

In the car? Without.

That's why I had to get my own place.

[seadragon2013]

When your partner is REALLY tall, PiV car sex becomes incredibly awkward. Especially when your car is a subcompact.

Just saying.

[cadien]

Feb 17, 2017 10:11:14 GMT -5 mack said:

Like the week of inauguration we were walking around the White House and there was this group of teenagers wearing MAGA hats. One of them was Hispanic and I wanted to scream at him

HELLO THIS MAN IS PLANNING ON BUILDING A WALL TO KEEP YOUR PEOPLE OUT 

There are a lot of 'I got mine' Hispanics out there. The whole 'Well I went through all the legal hoops so everyone should.' And of course many are Catholic, which often leads to political conservatism.

[Cherhorowitz]

Feb 17, 2017 10:25:13 GMT -5 unheardof said:

Why would you have car sex in the drivers' seat?

Because someone has to man the gas pedal.

[jbm]

Feb 17, 2017 10:20:23 GMT -5 mack said:

Feb 17, 2017 10:15:51 GMT -5 McBenny said:

I shared before that I met some really nice ladies at the last Mom's Night Out and we really clicked and talked all night and then one of them brings up Trump and being a supporter. I didn't say a word and really listened (I have grown from here to do this). She expressed her reasons and I really listened. I came to the conclusion that when you are a white woman then your focus could be on other stuff like hers was. It was an epiphany for me. I don't think we can be friends though cause I can't relate.

i read a really interesting article on white woman trump voters. the analysis was that these women relate more with their whiteness than with their woman-ness.

But you are also right, they have the privilege to not worry about the other stuff/

This is really so so true.  My mom is truly a lovely person, but she cannot see past her own privilege to save her life.  My dad was career Army, so we grew up moving around a lot, but still in that military bubble, always living on post and being surrounded by fairly like minded people of the same socioeconomic standing.  She cannot imagine a world where people are actually still discriminated against because it's not her reality. 

I keep trying to tell her that you can still see what's going on without it impacting your day to day life, but it's hard.  And it is definitely effecting my relationship with her.