Post by teachermomtobe on Mar 16, 2017 18:07:46 GMT -5
Not to start this debate. I fully support rooming in annd plan to do so with the baby. However, my hospital does have a nursery if wanted or needed. They also support rooming in but it's nice to know there is an option if it's needed. I don't like hospitals taking away that choice.
Not to start this debate. I fully support rooming in annd plan to do so with the baby. However, my hospital does have a nursery if wanted or needed. They also support rooming in but it's nice to know there is an option if it's needed. I don't like hospitals taking away that choice.
I almost said "this sounds just like where I deliver" and then remembered we are hospital twins! I was very happy the first time with their nursery set up. We used it for a few hours the first night and again for 30 min so I could get up and walk....to the cafeteria
Not to start this debate. I fully support rooming in annd plan to do so with the baby. However, my hospital does have a nursery if wanted or needed. They also support rooming in but it's nice to know there is an option if it's needed. I don't like hospitals taking away that choice.
I almost said "this sounds just like where I deliver" and then remembered we are hospital twins! I was very happy the first time with their nursery set up. We used it for a few hours the first night and again for 30 min so I could get up and walk....to the cafeteria
Haha I forgot we were hospital twins too! Glad you were happy with the set up. I'm touring it in April but I have read all their online stuff and think it's a good set up.
Not to start this debate. I fully support rooming in annd plan to do so with the baby. However, my hospital does have a nursery if wanted or needed. They also support rooming in but it's nice to know there is an option if it's needed. I don't like hospitals taking away that choice.
It's nice you have an option. I was warned a couple of times that my hospital is 24 hours room in...no nursery.
Post by ihatepizza on Mar 16, 2017 21:26:31 GMT -5
Wow, I just assumed all hospitals were room in now, it's cool to have the option. Although if I deliver at the hospital I work at I'll know lots of nurses that can take baby if I need a break
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Post by trebletrouble13 on Mar 16, 2017 22:03:05 GMT -5
My local hospital is room-in only (and I enjoyed it), but I remember from last time around that like ihatepizza, there are nurses nearby willing to hold the baby for a little while if I need it. I wasn't aware it was a debate, though I suppose I can see how/why it would be.
I agree that nurseries should be an option. I had easy deliveries and we weren't in the hospital long, so we didn't need one. But my sister had a c section and her husband couldn't stay in the hospital with her for her full stay because he owns his own businesses. She had a really tough time on her own and really could have used a nursery. I think the healthcare industry probably eliminated them to save costs and just says it's because of best practice for mother and baby
Our hospital is also room-in, and I think it would be nice to have the option of a nursery. There are also super strict rules about who is allowed to take baby where and how, so nurses don't really just take the baby, at least in my experience.
Our hospital is also room in only. They have a nursery but it is for the NICU babies only. Nurses took C often because they had to check his blood sugars. The day they did his car seat test they took him at like 9pm and brought him back around 11. (I'm guessing so DH and I could get some sleep.) but we never really had issues with him crying and not being able to get him to stop. Like sdlaura's sister, I was a C-section mama, DH owns his own business so he wasn't able to be at the hospital with me my full stay. He was there the full day C was born. The next morning (Monday) he went to work and my mom came in the morning to help out. MIL came in the afternoon to help and let my mom go to work. I was able to get my shower in and always had a grandma available to hold C if I needed something. We were discharged on Tuesday around lunch. MIL picked us up (DH was working) and brought us back home. She stayed for about an hour and I reassured her that C and I would be fine until DH got home from work. We just snuggled on the couch all afternoon.
Any hospital that wants to have the "baby friendly" label has to go with the 24/7 rooming in rule. Separating mom and baby early on has been shown to impact BF'ing. So if you're delivering at a baby friendly hospital just get ready for no nursery!
My hospital was also anti pacifier. I know a lot of hospitals give newborns those soothie pacifiers, we had someone ask about if they provided them and it was a 100% no. They also encouraged you not to bring/use one (especially if you were planning on breastfeeding.) So that might be another question some FTMs might want to ask when they tour the hospital.
sabrinaml, I am a major pacifier believer. I would bring my own. I joke that I put DS through "pacifier boot camp" when he was a baby. He didn't want to take one so I would put it in his mouth and when he started to suck I'd pull on it a little bit so he'd suck harder, and eventually he got into it. I feel like there are so many times when you can't just pull your boob out (like in line at the grocery store, or in the car) and the baby is crying and I need to be able to use a pacifier in those situations.
Also the data on pacifiers having a negative impact on breastfeeding is really weak/non-existent...like so much data related to BFing....apparently the study that showed that they might interfere is 25+ years old and many studies since then have showed they're not an impediment to BFing.
sdlaura, I had several different ones packed in our hospital bag. I am a firm believer in the magic of a binky as well. He wanted nothing to do with one until he was about 2 weeks old.
sabrinamlsdlaura DD pretty much loved the pacifier from the start. i cursed its existence in a couple different phases - like when she dropped it in her car seat but couldn't yet get it back into her mouth and cried nonstop until i stopped the car to give it back, or when she'd lose it at night and need it replaced, or drop it on the floor when we were out and about and i didn't have other backups. but overall it saved my ass, haha. will do again, will pack in hospital bag.
My child is a finger sucker. Sometimes I wish she used a paci so I could take it away and break the habit. That sounds really mean but it's not meant to be.
honda13 my DD is a finger sucker (switched from the pacifier at six months) and DS is a pacifier kid. Their dentist is much more laid back about the pacifier because like you said, it's an easier habit to break when you can take it away.
honda13 my DD is a finger sucker (switched from the pacifier at six months) and DS is a pacifier kid. Their dentist is much more laid back about the pacifier because like you said, it's an easier habit to break when you can take it away.
Gah! Her dentist isn't concerned, yet. I know the day will come. I can't remember at what age she said they like to see them stop.
sabrinaml, I am a major pacifier believer. I would bring my own. I joke that I put DS through "pacifier boot camp" when he was a baby. He didn't want to take one so I would put it in his mouth and when he started to suck I'd pull on it a little bit so he'd suck harder, and eventually he got into it. I feel like there are so many times when you can't just pull your boob out (like in line at the grocery store, or in the car) and the baby is crying and I need to be able to use a pacifier in those situations.
Also the data on pacifiers having a negative impact on breastfeeding is really weak/non-existent...like so much data related to BFing....apparently the study that showed that they might interfere is 25+ years old and many studies since then have showed they're not an impediment to BFing.
I can't say I keep up on the breastfeeding research, but in a quick search I found an 2003 AAP study supporting the recommendation to avoid offering a pacifier in the neonatal period. Full disclosure though, I generally support breastfeeding research.
I'm a huge fan of good scientific research, but I'm very critical of most breastfeeding research because it's purely correlational and not controlled. Here's a good discussion on the available studies:
Post by teachermomtobe on Mar 18, 2017 6:21:46 GMT -5
Purely anecdotal: I was breastfed my brother was but for a very brief time. I have food allergies, he does not. He is a bit smarter and much more articulate (word/communication development) than I am. I have more health issues than he does.
Eh, my intent isn't to debate or to "prove" my point so to speak. In this context and on this matter, I'm content with just stating my opinion. I hope anyone who is in the process of forming an opinion (regardless of how you feed your child) is able to find reliable sources and come to your own conclusions.
That being said, I generally think the body of breastfeeding research is valid and strong. I should also say that I generally find correlational methods to be valuable in research and I do not think that the use of these methods alone are a sound basis to dismiss findings. Correlational studies have well known limitations. It appears to me, however, that individuals/groups that have used the data to develop the general recommendations related to breastfeeding have took the methods and limitations of this body of research into consideration.
panda I totally respect your opinion. Unfortunately it's very difficult/impossible to do randomized, controlled studies on a topic like breastfeeding.
I do think it's a bit condescending/paternalistic that women aren't given full information on this topic and are pressured so much (at least in my circle) without the experts mentioning the limitations of the data. I especially look at outcomes of sibling studies, which are as close to better controlled studies as we've got, and they show much less in the way of benefits than correlational studies. I say all this as someone who has BF my kids and plans to BF again - but many women I know who can't BF for whatever reason feel terrible because of all these supposed benefits, many of which have weak data behind them.
Again, though, I fully understand your opinion as well.
Purely anecdotal: I was breastfed my brother was but for a very brief time. I have food allergies, he does not. He is a bit smarter and much more articulate (word/communication development) than I am. I have more health issues than he does.
My kids break down this way too - in terms of my daughter being BF for a shorter time than my son and being much less likely to get sick when something goes around. It's so hard to know what factors go into this stuff though in addition to BF
PS - I'm sure you're just as smart and articulate as your brother
So this isn't a stupid question, just a story. So after having dd we stayed in the hospital a few days. No one told me she was jaundice until we were being discharged. It was, "oh, btw here's a light for her jaundice and information about what to do.". I was so pissed and I felt dumb for not knowing. She seriously did not look yellow to me and the pediatricians on rotation did not communicate with me at all! So that's my story lol.
Oh wow, honda13. I can't believe they didn't give you more information sooner.
DD had jaundice and I feel like they were constantly sticking her heel to measure her bilirubin levels and talking to us about her levels and possible treatment.
You can pretty much find BF'ing studies to support either side. It is such a hot topic and there is seriously way too much info out there. Being an IBCLC and a NICU nurse I'm very much pro BF'ing but I'm firmly in the "fed is best" camp too. I've seen what can happen when BF'ing doesn't work and it simply doesn't work for everyone. Every baby and every mom are so different. BF'ing is HARD. Educate yourself and stand by what you feel is the best decision for you and your baby.
Oh wow, honda13. I can't believe they didn't give you more information sooner.
DD had jaundice and I feel like they were constantly sticking her heel to measure her bilirubin levels and talking to us about her levels and possible treatment.
It was the only bad experience out of the whole thing. I remember the on call pediatrician telling his resident all about her jaundice and I'm just looking at him like ummmm maybe you should have told her parents about this before you're giving us the ok to discharge!!! We were there for a few days she could have been getting treated during that time. I hope this one doesn't have it. That light was a pain in the butt. We joked with visitors that she had to be charged lol
You can pretty much find BF'ing studies to support either side. It is such a hot topic and there is seriously way too much info out there. Being an IBCLC and a NICU nurse I'm very much pro BF'ing but I'm firmly in the "fed is best" camp too. I've seen what can happen when BF'ing doesn't work and it simply doesn't work for everyone. Every baby and every mom are so different. BF'ing is HARD. Educate yourself and stand by what you feel is the best decision for you and your baby.
Well said Cheezee. Dd1 did great nursing until about 7 months. Then she fell off the weight charts and we had all these extra pediatrician visits just to weigh her. It was very stressful! Around 9 months we switched to formula and she was doing much better on that. Omg she would spit up sooooo much breastmilk after she ate. Every baby is different. Do what works for you and your family.
Purely anecdotal: I was breastfed my brother was but for a very brief time. I have food allergies, he does not. He is a bit smarter and much more articulate (word/communication development) than I am. I have more health issues than he does.
My kids break down this way too - in terms of my daughter being BF for a shorter time than my son and being much less likely to get sick when something goes around. It's so hard to know what factors go into this stuff though in addition to BF
PS - I'm sure you're just as smart and articulate as your brother
He's a writer so I will definitely say he's more articulate than I am lol
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