We haven't had our 6 month check up yet. But I was finally poking around the 6 month check up thread and saw lots of babies disliking STTN. So, (yes again), tell me what exactly your sleep situation looks like and if you have or if and when you are planning to sleep train. DD2 goes down around 730 pm, sometimes wakes a half hour later, then around 12, 2-3, around 5, then I usually wake her at 745. I have been feeding at the 2-3 and around 5 wake ups. Giving the binky at the others. I'm like nauseous-exhausted. I've been waiting for her 6 month check up next week to try sleep training again. Just to make sure her ears are clear. I had started sleep training over a month ago but then she got the actual flu and ear infection like the second day. So I felt awful, not that I caused the flu and ear infection, but that I may have let her cry when she wasn't feeling well, and have been hesitant to try again.
DS2 is going down between 7-7:45. Some nights his first wake up is 4:30, back down until 6:30. Other nights first wakeup is 5:30. Probably once/ week he wakes at 12 or 2 and then gets up at 5:30/6. This morning he went back to sleep from 6-7. That doesn't always happen. ST is on my radar to drop that feeding but I want him to get fully onto solid food first.
DS2 goes to bed between 7:00-7:30. I do a dream feed around 10:00 and we get up for the day around 6:30.
In between, everything is really hit or miss. On a good night, he nurses until drowsy and then passes right out in his crib, often without his pacifier. Other nights, he spends 20-30 minutes popping back awake multiple times. I do let him fuss/cry for a few minutes, but usually he doesn't fall back asleep until I go in and give him his pacifier again.
For MOTN wakeups, about half the time he only wakes up once, around 4:00. Other nights he is up usually 2, sometimes 3 times. He will go right back to sleep after nursing.
I wish he were more consistent. I'd feel better about sleep training if he were always a crap sleeper, but some nights he is perfectly fine (I'm ok with one MOTN wakeup). I keep hoping the good nights will start growing. He's also getting teeth right now, so that makes me feel guilty as well.
DD goes down at 9ish. She is up usually around 3:30-4ish, then wakes back up at 730-8ish for the day. I don't mind the one wake up MOTN, but I do want to drop it soon so it doesn't become a habit as she gets older. We ditched the binky about a month ago because she just kept spitting it out in her sleep. She does fine without it now. The one thing I need to do more is put her down awake but drowsy. She usually is for her naps, but she always falls asleep while nursing at night. Since I know she can fall asleep on her own without nursing, I'm not terribly nervous about it yet. I honestly found that once her day nap schedule got pretty consistent, sleep at night was much better. Days her naps are all over the place usually end with a couple wake ups at night. ETA: on the rare occasion she does cry when I put her down (at night or for naps), I let her cry for 5 minutes. If she is still wailing, I go in and pick her up to console her for a couple seconds, then she goes back in. I let her cry for 8 minutes after that, and 9 times out of 10 she is asleep within those 8 minutes.
DS2 goes to bed between 7-7:30, and we get him up around 6:15 on weekdays for daycare. During the night, he typically wakes up between 3:30-4:30 and wants to eat.
We ditched the pacifier a little while ago and that helped tremendously. If he doesn't go right to sleep (luckily, not often), I will check on him every 10 minutes--typically he's asleep after 1-2 checks.
Goes down around 7 and up every 2-3 hours until wake up at 6-6:30. We've done some gentle sleep training (she's good at falling asleep initially)) but mostly I just give in and co-sleep. I don't wake up all the way when she does and it's easy to get her back down.
I should add with bottle refusal I still feed her at night. Pretty sure she's reverse cycling and I'm hoping to work on it this summer when I don't work and will be with her all day.
Post by smallpotato on Apr 19, 2017 10:53:27 GMT -5
G goes in between 8-8:30. Like @kitchen, I nurse and rock him to sleep because during the week, that may be the only time we nurse. I usually will rock him for a few minutes after he finished eating, then put him in the crib. He usually will sleep until 6:30-7:00 the next morning. I'm also okay with one wakeup overnight. We do, however, put him down on his belly. I know that's not recommended, but we were up almost every hour before that. He is able to lift and move his head around, so I'm less worried now than I was at first.
Naps happen in the car and while being held. He does nap for short times at daycare, but, since they are not allowed to put him on his belly until they see him roll, he doesn't sleep much there. I'll take crappy naps and sleeping all night though. N also wasn't the best napper until he was nearly a year old, so I'm not as worried.
DS2 goes down for the night by 7pm. He sleeps until I wake him up for daycare at 6:15am. Occasionally, he's awake when I go in. On the weekends, he wakes between 6 and 7am and then goes back down until 8 or 9am. He catnaps at daycare (20-40 minutes once a day, maaaybe twice), but at home he takes one solid 1.5-3 hour nap late morning and then a short 30-40 minute nap late afternoon.
We ST for naps before I went back to work and then he fell into this glorious schedule on his own the week I went back.
Post by macaronmama on Apr 19, 2017 21:58:14 GMT -5
We try to put him to bed between 8-9pm because if we do any earlier, DS wakes up at 4am and doesn't go back to bed. Generally we got one wakeup around 2 or 3 and we'd do a feed. We were planning on phasing out that last wakeup with ST when he hit 6mo, but he's been sick.
That said, sleep has been poop here. DS is crying like the dickens as I type this. He's recovered from his cold for the most part (a minor cough a few times a day) but he's been waking. up. every. hour. We decided to let him CIO because I'm still sick, DH is getting sick, and not ST is just untenable at this point. I hate CIO, but it works.
Sleep is getting worse here. While I'm not a believer that solids will make a baby STTN, I think part of LO's problem is he's hungry. So maybe starting solids will get us back to 8 hour stretches.
Before this week, he'd get home from daycare and nurse at 6 and sleep until 2:30. Then he'd go back down until 6:30. This worked out great for our schedule and one 20 minutes wakeup in the middle of the night was fine.
This week he started eating every 4-5 hours all night long. I know that doesn't sound all that bad but getting up 2-3 times a night wore me out! I ended up falling asleep last night on the couch at 8 PM.
If starting solids doesn't get him to sleep longer stretches again, we'll look into sleep training. Who knows? He could also be working on a tooth.
Naps at daycare suck. He gets two 30-40 minute naps. Yesterday he didn't nap until 2 and he only slept 40 minutes. Not cool.
I hate when everyone talks about bad sleep because my kid goes through phases and he's a few weeks behind in birthdays so I feel like mine is coming soon...
I hate when everyone talks about bad sleep because my kid goes through phases and he's a few weeks behind in birthdays so I feel like mine is coming soon...
Mine's been shitty since January, if that helps.
Nope. Sounds like 4MW that you're kid never recovered from. That happened with my first. I hope you can ST soon. This kid varies but it's definitely pretty good comparatively.
For those of you using CIO methods what line do you draw for too much crying? Like, how long is too long before you go in to check diapers, etc.?
That's going to be different for every mom. But if you go in after 45 minutes of crying and do the things you used to do to help him/ her sleep (nurse, paci, rock, etc...) then our smart little babies think- okay I just need to keep crying long enough and they'll come help rather than realizing- oh I need to learn to go to sleep on my own. It's really what you can "tolerate" but Ferber warned that starting and stopping can cause longer crying the next time you try.
Post by macaronmama on Apr 26, 2017 8:03:18 GMT -5
@holachica, becole, thanks. DS cried for over an hour last night around 10pm, and he usually doesn't cry that long before he selfsoothes back to sleep so that was what I was wondering. I did go in and check his diaper and he was still crying and screaming with singing/soothing - think he was unusually hungry because a bottle fixed it. I burped him and put him back down still awake. Took him 20 minutes to fall back asleep with some playing I heard over the monitor, but then he stayed down until 6am. So I hope that was the right choice and its not repeated tonight.
@holachica, becole, thanks. DS cried for over an hour last night around 10pm, and he usually doesn't cry that long before he selfsoothes back to sleep so that was what I was wondering. I did go in and check his diaper and he was still crying and screaming with singing/soothing - think he was unusually hungry because a bottle fixed it. I burped him and put him back down still awake. Took him 20 minutes to fall back asleep with some playing I heard over the monitor, but then he stayed down until 6am. So I hope that was the right choice and its not repeated tonight.
It was the right choice for you at the time- can't go wrong with trusting yourself to know when something is off. He may surprise you tonight since he still put himself to sleep. Here's hoping!
Lil P hasn't STTN at all. She is waking up 2-3 times a night, drinking a few oz of her bottle then going back to sleep. She is right next to our bed in the bouncer or RNP so I usually don't have to get out of bed.
Her naps are still 25-30 min cat naps. I hope they condense soon.
Does baby go to bed first or preschool/toddler kids first? I think DS wants an earlier bedtime but before the big girls seems logistically harder.
Baby goes down around 7 and the 3 yo around 8. I didn't really 'choose' these bedtimes, it is just when they get sleepy. Also DH does most of the baby's night time routine and I do the toddler's.
Does baby go to bed first or preschool/toddler kids first? I think DS wants an earlier bedtime but before the big girls seems logistically harder.
Baby goes down around 7 and the 3 yo around 8. I didn't really 'choose' these bedtimes, it is just when they get sleepy. Also DH does most of the baby's night time routine and I do the toddler's.
@kitchen this but I put baby to bed and H puts the toddler to bed. The baby goes down between 630 and 7 and she definitely is expired by this point. The toddler goes to bed around 730 but normally isn't really down until 8. If I'm by myself I let the toddler play in her room while I feed baby to sleep and then come do her bedtime routine.
@holachica , becole , thanks. DS cried for over an hour last night around 10pm, and he usually doesn't cry that long before he selfsoothes back to sleep so that was what I was wondering. I did go in and check his diaper and he was still crying and screaming with singing/soothing - think he was unusually hungry because a bottle fixed it. I burped him and put him back down still awake. Took him 20 minutes to fall back asleep with some playing I heard over the monitor, but then he stayed down until 6am. So I hope that was the right choice and its not repeated tonight.
It was the right choice for you at the time- can't go wrong with trusting yourself to know when something is off. He may surprise you tonight since he still put himself to sleep. Here's hoping!
He did well again - 7pm to 3:30am, short feed, then asleep again til 6:30am. So yay.
It was the right choice for you at the time- can't go wrong with trusting yourself to know when something is off. He may surprise you tonight since he still put himself to sleep. Here's hoping!
He did well again - 7pm to 3:30am, short feed, then asleep again til 6:30am. So yay.
We all have dinner together, i nurse put the baby down at 7pm and then the big has an hour of time all to himself to play, get a bath, and bed. He's pretty difficult though and it's easier 2 on 1 with him than 1 on 1. Especially with behavior. I couldn't do it if the baby was still up.
Post by smallpotato on Apr 27, 2017 9:32:35 GMT -5
G goes down first between 7:30 and 8. I change him, nurse him, and put him in. MH handles bedtime for N, and he usually goes in around 8:30. When MH is at work, I'll get both boys changed around 7:30, we FaceTime with Daddy, then I take G in and let N watch TV until I'm done. Then we'll go in and read a book or two before he goes to sleep. When I'm alone, both boys are usually in bed no later than 9.
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