Guess we're taking the steps towards doing IVF this round. Went in for an ultrasound and more blood work today and there were 17 follicles greater than 16mm, 4 follicles 15mm, and more 14mm and smaller. My E2 yesterday was pretty high, over 2,300. Since I've only been taking the Gonal for 8 days, which is pretty short for an IVF cycle, we're waiting to find out if the doctor wants to wait 1 more day to give the eggs more time to mature and I'll take 75iu of Gonal again tonight and the ER would be on Sunday or stop the Gonal and the ER would be Saturday. He wants to see what my hormone levels are today before deciding. Overall feeling good, sore/tender and could not sleep last night. Our coordinator said it was from all the hormones.
We did ask if they notice any difference with the egg equality with people who do IVF from the beginning of their cycle or convert partway through and she said no and they've had really good luck with people who have converted. Since our clinic does ICSI, we asked if they could refreeze our sperm for future IVF cycles (our plan is to do partner IVF for the second try). She said we would lose some but we don't need that many but she's going to check their policy.
Still can't believe this was supposed to be an IUI cycle and it seems like we're switching so fast to IVF.
CET & CAR - both 30, married Aug, 2013, together 12+ yrs.
TTC #1: CAR carrying IUI #1 & 2 - Clomid, trigger = BFN IUI #3 - Switched to Gonal 150iu. Overstim led to 'surprise' IVF. Retrieved 21, 14 mature, 13 fertilized, all 13 made it to day 5, 9 PGS normal. Transferred 1 AA hatched blast 5/1/15 Baby Girl M born 1-21-16
Guess we're taking the steps towards doing IVF this round. Went in for an ultrasound and more blood work today and there were 17 follicles greater than 16mm, 4 follicles 15mm, and more 14mm and smaller. My E2 yesterday was pretty high, over 2,300. Since I've only been taking the Gonal for 8 days, which is pretty short for an IVF cycle, we're waiting to find out if the doctor wants to wait 1 more day to give the eggs more time to mature and I'll take 75iu of Gonal again tonight and the ER would be on Sunday or stop the Gonal and the ER would be Saturday. He wants to see what my hormone levels are today before deciding. Overall feeling good, sore/tender and could not sleep last night. Our coordinator said it was from all the hormones.
We did ask if they notice any difference with the egg equality with people who do IVF from the beginning of their cycle or convert partway through and she said no and they've had really good luck with people who have converted. Since our clinic does ICSI, we asked if they could refreeze our sperm for future IVF cycles (our plan is to do partner IVF for the second try). She said we would lose some but we don't need that many but she's going to check their policy.
Still can't believe this was supposed to be an IUI cycle and it seems like we're switching so fast to IVF.
What a whirlwind this must be, but I'm happy you're moving forward and holy amazing IVF response!! Sending you lots of good thoughts! Let us know when ER day is!!
We went to have follicle tracking ultrasound yesterday, got to drive the lovely 4.5 hours to our clinic and 4.5 hours home, for a 10 min procedure... Ugh, such a long boring drive. We were so happy the weather was nice.
Anyway.. turns out it was a little too early for them to be able to tell me when to trigger as they measured 3 good follicles at 12mm, 8mm and 6mm.. so we have to go back Saturday. The Dr said, depending on how everything looks Saturday, we might be triggering Saturday and doing the IUI Monday. Or might be doing a trigger free cycle Sunday if I ovulate Saturday.
So we are going to have an extended stay in Saskatoon! We are calling it our 'baby making getaway'.. lol
CET & CAR - both 30, married Aug, 2013, together 12+ yrs.
TTC #1: CAR carrying IUI #1 & 2 - Clomid, trigger = BFN IUI #3 - Switched to Gonal 150iu. Overstim led to 'surprise' IVF. Retrieved 21, 14 mature, 13 fertilized, all 13 made it to day 5, 9 PGS normal. Transferred 1 AA hatched blast 5/1/15 Baby Girl M born 1-21-16
So, this morning I decided to POAS and....BFN. Whomp whomp.
It's 12dpiui and CD24 (I have a very consistent 28 day cycle).
What do you think? Too early or am I out for this month?
Edit: I'm going in for a beta tomorrow.
Sorry for the BFN! Totally know how that feels
Good luck at the beta though, you never know for sure until that comes back. You could have a late implanter or just be the type that takes the hormones a bit longer to build up. It's possible.
CET & CAR - both 30, married Aug, 2013, together 12+ yrs.
TTC #1: CAR carrying IUI #1 & 2 - Clomid, trigger = BFN IUI #3 - Switched to Gonal 150iu. Overstim led to 'surprise' IVF. Retrieved 21, 14 mature, 13 fertilized, all 13 made it to day 5, 9 PGS normal. Transferred 1 AA hatched blast 5/1/15 Baby Girl M born 1-21-16
Thanks for asking- I was a day off and my appointment was actually yesterday afternoon, not Wednesday!
Next plan is to give the last go a try with a combo cycle of Femara and Gonal-F. I feel hopeful, it’s different at least, so we’ll see. I’m trying to be realistic with my expectations, but there’s so much riding on this one- I’ll be crushed if I get a bfn!
So, this morning I decided to POAS and....BFN. Whomp whomp.
It's 12dpiui and CD24 (I have a very consistent 28 day cycle).
What do you think? Too early or am I out for this month?
Edit: I'm going in for a beta tomorrow.
Sorry for the BFN 12dpiui could certainly be too early, you just never know until beta day, I did all kinds of googling on dpiui for bfp's... 10 was common as was 12... and then there were the few 13 or 14.. but my personal view, I knew at 12 it wasn't happening for me...
BUT that said- my one bfp was 8dp5dt (13dpo)... so you never know!
Guess we're taking the steps towards doing IVF this round. Went in for an ultrasound and more blood work today and there were 17 follicles greater than 16mm, 4 follicles 15mm, and more 14mm and smaller. My E2 yesterday was pretty high, over 2,300. Since I've only been taking the Gonal for 8 days, which is pretty short for an IVF cycle, we're waiting to find out if the doctor wants to wait 1 more day to give the eggs more time to mature and I'll take 75iu of Gonal again tonight and the ER would be on Sunday or stop the Gonal and the ER would be Saturday. He wants to see what my hormone levels are today before deciding. Overall feeling good, sore/tender and could not sleep last night. Our coordinator said it was from all the hormones.
We did ask if they notice any difference with the egg equality with people who do IVF from the beginning of their cycle or convert partway through and she said no and they've had really good luck with people who have converted. Since our clinic does ICSI, we asked if they could refreeze our sperm for future IVF cycles (our plan is to do partner IVF for the second try). She said we would lose some but we don't need that many but she's going to check their policy.
Still can't believe this was supposed to be an IUI cycle and it seems like we're switching so fast to IVF.
What a whirlwind this must be, but I'm happy you're moving forward and holy amazing IVF response!! Sending you lots of good thoughts! Let us know when ER day is!!
Update- Our ER got scheduled for tomorrow at 9am. E2 was higher, but not too much higher yesterday, 2700. Took the triggers last night at 10pm. Still getting a handle on all the extra meds to start/get from the pharmacy. We actually chased a FedEx truck down the street (in our car) yesterday after they missed our delivery from one of the pharmacies that had to be taken 'ASAP'. It was insane.
Edited to add- After seeing the Gonal response, we're wondering if this is due to high hormone levels. My AMH at the start of all this (when we first went to the clinic months ago) was over 9, but they didn't find PCOS. The Dr did at one point just say it meant I had "a lot of eggs."
CET & CAR - both 30, married Aug, 2013, together 12+ yrs.
TTC #1: CAR carrying IUI #1 & 2 - Clomid, trigger = BFN IUI #3 - Switched to Gonal 150iu. Overstim led to 'surprise' IVF. Retrieved 21, 14 mature, 13 fertilized, all 13 made it to day 5, 9 PGS normal. Transferred 1 AA hatched blast 5/1/15 Baby Girl M born 1-21-16
wittyandwaiting, I was just coming on here to tell you I keep wanting to POAS. Sorry you got a BFN. I may or may not hold out til morning. I feel nothing so have little optimism.
Thanks for asking- I was a day off and my appointment was actually yesterday afternoon, not Wednesday!
Next plan is to give the last go a try with a combo cycle of Femara and Gonal-F. I feel hopeful, it’s different at least, so we’ll see. I’m trying to be realistic with my expectations, but there’s so much riding on this one- I’ll be crushed if I get a bfn!
Glad to hear you have a new plan that you're feeling good about. Really hoping this is your cycle. The Gonal-F injections really aren't all that bad. Sending lots of positive thoughts your way.
CET & CAR - both 30, married Aug, 2013, together 12+ yrs.
TTC #1: CAR carrying IUI #1 & 2 - Clomid, trigger = BFN IUI #3 - Switched to Gonal 150iu. Overstim led to 'surprise' IVF. Retrieved 21, 14 mature, 13 fertilized, all 13 made it to day 5, 9 PGS normal. Transferred 1 AA hatched blast 5/1/15 Baby Girl M born 1-21-16
Post by wittyandwaiting on Apr 25, 2015 8:10:05 GMT -5
Thanks for your warm and fuzzies! I'm still trying to stay positive until I hear back on my beta. I called my RE yesterday after my BFN and he told me That it was too early for me to POAS and get a reliable result so I'm taking his word on that. He also reminded that humans are the only animals that do things to hurt ourselves or complicate our lives just because.
My province (with our Lesbian premier!!!!) announced last year that starting in 2015 they would provide one round of IVF funding (you can read about it here if you care: news.ontario.ca/mohltc/en/2014/04/improving-access-to-safe-fertility-treatments.html?utm_source=ondemand&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=o) to eligible peeps. My RE told me that word in RE circles is that the funding is expected to be available this fall and that since I'm already with an RE and have completed the required testing I may be well positioned to be an 'early adopter'. That being said, I'm not counting on anything at this point but it gave me some hope. (side note: I might be starting to get jaded and not like hope as much as I used to).
RM80 - I'm hoping for a BFP for you this time around. Go team Gonal!
cetcar thinking of you two today!!! Hope that all goes well and that they find tons of eggs!!! I really LOL'd at the vision of you chasing the truck; for some reason my mind immediately went to a police style chase.
Stringy We never POAS but C had a feeling, she still does, I love her optimism. Have you gone in for beta yet?
tl;dr: I'm waiting on beta and think you're all great and am sending you good mojo.
Yea bfn this morning. It's 13 days post iui. I can't imagine it's false. I wouldn't go in until Monday and I pretty much feel like my period is coming so I likely won't need to. So witty- how early did your doc say was too early? 11 days?
I plan on drinking at an event today so... Oh well.
Post by wittyandwaiting on Apr 25, 2015 14:22:10 GMT -5
I'm drinking tonight too Stringy, I'll keep it classy this weekend but next week, at the advice of megd893 I'm going to land somewhere between trashy wasted and refined wine drinking mama wasted.
wittyandwaiting, So sorry about the BFN again. It's great you're keeping a good outlook, though. All good thoughts for the next try!!
Stringy, Sorry for the BFN. Enjoy the beer, you deserve it! This whole process sometimes needs a mental break.
Our ER went well today, despite taking awhile before and after. Before while waiting for the doctor to get there for an hour, and after for some extra recovery time. The procedure was on the long side for ERs, and CAR's pretty sore.
But they retrieved 21 eggs! The RE seemed really pleased with the number. He was a little blown away by the whole thing, given it was off a low dose of Gonal for our IUI. As he put it, 'it was like a jailbreak in there.'
Our RE started talking about 'genetic testing' of the embryos since we had so many, but it's a very significant extra cost, and also determines the sex so you can choose (if you want to). Has anyone else been offered this? Is it the same thing as the grading of the embryos that's discussed?
We'll know how many were mature/fertilized on Monday, so fingers crossed!
CET & CAR - both 30, married Aug, 2013, together 12+ yrs.
TTC #1: CAR carrying IUI #1 & 2 - Clomid, trigger = BFN IUI #3 - Switched to Gonal 150iu. Overstim led to 'surprise' IVF. Retrieved 21, 14 mature, 13 fertilized, all 13 made it to day 5, 9 PGS normal. Transferred 1 AA hatched blast 5/1/15 Baby Girl M born 1-21-16
Congratulations on the very successful retrieval cetcar. No the genetic testing is not the same thing as the grading. Your embryos will be graded based on how they grow over the next 5 days and that will happen no matter what. The genetic testing generally involves taking one cell from each of the day 5 embryos you have and sending that to a specialist lab to have them tested. Usually this means they will freeze all of the embryos until they have the results back and then you will do a frozen embryo transfer the next cycle. But some clinics and labs can do a very quick genetic test and so you would transfer on day 6 not day 5. If you want to do genetic testing but do not want know the sex of the embryos, you should be able to ask that that info not be disclosed to you. You're right that it is very expensive. I think the reason it is sometimes recommended with a large number of embryos is that it can also get very expensive to do embryo transfer after embryo transfer if a bunch of the embryos turn out to not be genetically normal. So if you eliminate the genetically abnormal embryos from the start, you can increase the chances of a successful transfer sooner rather than later. How soon do you have to decide?
****loss and living child discussed***** We're queer. I'm 34, have severe stage 4 endo, and both fallopian tubes are gone. My love ("Manada" 33) was diagnosed with diminished ovarian reserve. We did Partner IVF (my eggs, her uterus). We lost our twins Tav.in and Ca.sey at 21 weeks gestation.
I'm so bummed for all the sad BFN's this week. :-( wittyandwaiting, Stringy, I hope that booze and snuggles help just a smidge.
I also have a question for you TTC folks: If you take a daily prescribed medication, did you wean off before TTC, or are you supposed to wait until BFP? I know, I know, ask your doctor. I have an annual in late May, but we want to start at-home ICI's in June, and I know it's supposed to take a few weeks to step down off of my SSRIs. Should I just call the office and ask?
Post by wittyandwaiting on Apr 26, 2015 7:16:38 GMT -5
Woo hoo cetcar! I hope the recovery is quick for Car! Looking forward to an amazing fert report on Monday!
Thanks for explaining that @healz423! I can check an item off my IVF question list.
esquette, my favourite South African red wine and some great company definitely took the edge off! In terms of meds, I think that it depends on the medication; I know that with SSRI's there are some that are safe for TTC and pregnancy and some that are absolutely not. You could end up weaning for no reason. Maybe a good starting point is to talk to your pharmacist about your medication and then call your doctor.
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