This does nothing to convey our propensity for snark, but here's my first suggestion: something like "Expecting More"? Expecting more than what the dump has to offer, that's for sure.
Also, piggybacking on the bad apples theme, maybe "Candid Apples"? Candid for the snark, plus it sounds like "candied apples", which might be cool? IDK. Need moar wine.
I love Candid Apples!! It's original, and still alludes to how it all started with a certain "TongueInCheek" approach
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I think the "branding" aspect is for the far future. It would be nice to have a name that fits now and later. Considering the dump is a shit show i think this site should welcome new members. New members arent going to be drawn to "goodbye cruel dump" for their IF, TTGP, Baby, Parenting etc... advice.
But for what and for who? If you want a better searchable name that is one thing. But that was not said. It's for branding. Branding to benefit who? For what?
They did mention needing a better searchable name somewhere a few pages back. Im not really sure who would benefit from the branding and advertising if the site ever took off. That would be a much larger/legal discussion down the road. I do think that it is smart to plan ahead and pick a name that works now and later. A name that makes men and women feel at home no matter how hard or easy it is for them to get pregnant. A name that encompasses everything and everyone thats here and that we want to be here.
There are a bunch of forums out there about all kinds of things so I don't really get that argument.
Despite the fact that we were marginalized, the dump really did have the best infertility and loss groups out there. Because there was a place for everyone in every stage of the journey. Many of the "specialty" forums, for a lack of a better word, kick you to the curb when you move to wharver the next stage is in your journey.
Shit, I've seen people on BBC reference the old 3T blog for IF questions.
100% agreement to the bolded. When searching for anything specific, the shithole was the only forum that actually had active members and topics. All I really found on other sites when I was searching was information from 2010-2012 or older and the forums were dead.
it's been mentioned many times in the 19 pages of this thread that this was not spurred by the need for branding or making money. Read for content people.
I'll second this. Also, when it comes to being searchable and the branding that's been discussed, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's so that people who need us can find us. I know that I'm a relative newcomer the forums because I'm a FTM due in June. I have a few friends who have had kids, but it's been really nice to have a group of folks who are going through this at the same time as me. As well as a place to read about the experiences of those who have gone before. I've been able to pass this on to a friend who is having trouble TTC.
As much as I like things the way they are, I also remember where I was 6 months ago: clueless. If the only places for me now were babycenter, TD, and all the other glitter factories out there, I would feel very alone. To me this isn't about turning this into another corporate entity; it's making ourselves available to folks who will find what they need here.
it's been mentioned many times in the 19 pages of this thread that this was not spurred by the need for branding or making money. Read for content people.
I'll second this. Also, when it comes to being searchable and the branding that's been discussed, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's so that people who need us can find us. I know that I'm a relative newcomer the forums because I'm a FTM due in June. I have a few friends who have had kids, but it's been really nice to have a group of folks who are going through this at the same time as me. As well as a place to read about the experiences of those who have gone before. I've been able to pass this on to a friend who is having trouble TTC.
As much as I like things the way they are, I also remember where I was 6 months ago: clueless. If the only places for me now were babycenter, TD, and all the other glitter factories out there, I would feel very alone. To me this isn't about turning this into another corporate entity; it's making ourselves available to folks who will find what they need here.
it's been mentioned many times in the 19 pages of this thread that this was not spurred by the need for branding or making money. Read for content people.
I'll second this. Also, when it comes to being searchable and the branding that's been discussed, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's so that people who need us can find us. I know that I'm a relative newcomer the forums because I'm a FTM due in June. I have a few friends who have had kids, but it's been really nice to have a group of folks who are going through this at the same time as me. As well as a place to read about the experiences of those who have gone before. I've been able to pass this on to a friend who is having trouble TTC.
As much as I like things the way they are, I also remember where I was 6 months ago: clueless. If the only places for me now were babycenter, TD, and all the other glitter factories out there, I would feel very alone. To me this isn't about turning this into another corporate entity; it's making ourselves available to folks who will find what they need here.
All of this. Now once, Naria is feeling up to it we will get share our full plans and get a real discussion about this going. However, this full discussion will wait until Naria is up for it. It's been less than a month since the forum got going and we have time. We're not in a huge rush to implement our plans. We recognize that no matter what we do, there will probably be a few people who are unhappy about it. We cannot please everyone, but we can and will listen and try to adjust as often as necessary. There are no plans to become a big corporate entity.
McBenny is right there are a ton of other forums out there. I found TONS of them when searching for a place to talk about and get support for my loss during my bump break. However, as was also said most of those forums were inactive or honestly filled with crap information. I did not find a single place where I felt I could get the same support as I did from the ladies on the loss boards from TB (who are now here). @hilarityensued was on point with everything she said as well. Parenting is always going to be what you guys choose to make it. We are never going to try to fit Parenting or GKU into some mold to appease others. If anything it's the opposite. We're not random people being paid to run this board. We're doing it because it's our board too and we love it. Two of the admins are regular posters on Parenting. Our goal is to make sure this place is always a place for intelligent people and not rainbow farts. If someone doesn't like that and isn't willing to learn, then they can move on and we won't miss them. There are more than enough intelligent people who believe in logic, science, and facts to keep us busy. This forum illustrates that so well. For those comparing it to GBCN I think it's important to note that the two forums have somewhat different audiences. Parenting is a pretty stable forum overall, but many of the others are revolving and depend on new people coming in so that some poor person is not left alone on GKU or the loss boards, etc. We would like to see those boards grow instead of disappearing because we have good information to share with new people. Sure we are not the end all, be all. There are other places people can get information, but sometimes it's hard to find in all of the glitter and rainbows. We have information to share that is good and we have people who want to do that.
I skipped about 18 pages of comments, so sorry if this has been covered, but I've always called this community "the smart board". Not very descriptive if you're trying to find it, but it helped differentiate it from the other pregnancy boards out there.
I get it. Sorta. But who landed on TB because they googled the name The Bump?
People either sought out content like the newsletter/fruit of the week or they found TB because they were Googling something and found either content or the forums.
I am pretty agnostic in the whole name change/branding.
I get it. Sorta. But who landed on TB because they googled the name The Bump?
People either sought out content like the newsletter/fruit of the week or they found TB because they were Googling something and found either content or the forums.
I am pretty agnostic in the whole name change/branding.
This has been covered already as well, but we will put everything in one thread so everyone can see our reasonings once we're able to have our meeting and consolidate all of this. I know it's a mess right now to go through since it's all over 20 pages.
The biggest push for the name change has been the multiple requests we've received to really separate ourselves from TB. We're not worried about the name driving traffic so much since proper search engine optimization will take care of that for us and like you said content. It's just a move to be our own entity and not just ex-bump people.
We aren't looking to cater to the masses. We're looking to cater to the women who are looking for bullshit free advice. We're looking to cater to the women who show up ready to dish it as well as take it. We're looking to cater to moms with their big girl panties on- not a bunch of butthurt doe-eyed lisa frank cutouts.
We're all about that snark, bout that snark, no glitter.
(this is where I do what I said I wouldn't do)
Then I think we need to stay away from all village/support/it takes a forum type of names. Not that people aren't supportive, but that's a side effect of being evidence-based and bullshit free. Women who are looking for that are the women we want, so it should be reflected in the name.
I'm bummed that people want the name to be SFW, because "bullshit free" right in the title would quickly weed out the glitter eaters.
Oh, that is fantastic. This, this is wine. Look at what these idiots are drinking. Look at these dicks! I mean obviously, it's not really delicious, like hot chocolate or Coke, but for wine...brilliant.
I get it. Sorta. But who landed on TB because they googled the name The Bump?
People either sought out content like the newsletter/fruit of the week or they found TB because they were Googling something and found either content or the forums.
I am pretty agnostic in the whole name change/branding.
This has been covered already as well, but we will put everything in one thread so everyone can see our reasonings once we're able to have our meeting and consolidate all of this. I know it's a mess right now to go through since it's all over 20 pages.
The biggest push for the name change has been the multiple requests we've received to really separate ourselves from TB. We're not worried about the name driving traffic so much since proper search engine optimization will take care of that for us and like you said content. It's just a move to be our own entity and not just ex-bump people.
The reasons were all over the place so forgive me if I missed the mission statement amongst the 20 page thread. The OP said to drive content. I went with the OP.
I seriously don't care what you name it as long as it is SFW and doesn't look like it is from Sweet Valley High. I offered up my thoughts regarding driving new people toward us.
This has been covered already as well, but we will put everything in one thread so everyone can see our reasonings once we're able to have our meeting and consolidate all of this. I know it's a mess right now to go through since it's all over 20 pages.
The biggest push for the name change has been the multiple requests we've received to really separate ourselves from TB. We're not worried about the name driving traffic so much since proper search engine optimization will take care of that for us and like you said content. It's just a move to be our own entity and not just ex-bump people.
The reasons were all over the place so forgive me if I missed the mission statement amongst the 20 page thread. The OP said to drive content. I went with the OP.
I seriously don't care what you name it as long as it is SFW and doesn't look like it is from Sweet Valley High. I offered up my thoughts regarding driving new people toward us.
FYI - This thread is not closed, we just have a bazillion name suggestions now and it's shifted over to different topics so in the interest of giving us all a breather until we can get the forum future discussion up we are unannouncing this.
Lol that a swear in the title would be the thing that IT or your boss would have a problem with, and not posting from work in general. But that's beside the point.
Oh, that is fantastic. This, this is wine. Look at what these idiots are drinking. Look at these dicks! I mean obviously, it's not really delicious, like hot chocolate or Coke, but for wine...brilliant.
Lol that a swear in the title would be the thing that IT or your boss would have a problem with, and not posting from work in general. But that's beside the point.
it more has to do with employers who have webfilters that automatically block any website with strong/objectionable words in the URL or metatags
5 years TTC 2 c/p's 2 failed IUIs/1 cancelled IVF 1 failed IVF 1 failed FET BFP 12/1/15. We said goodbye to Tiny 1/4/16 Fresh cycle #3 2/16 8R/7M/5F BFP 5/12/16 We said goodbye to flutter on 5/27 and poprock on 5/28 BFP 8/30/16 We said goodbye to Samuel 10/3 (Trisomy 16) Moving on to Donor Embryos BFP 12/20/16 We said goodbye to Turtle 12/30
it more has to do with employers who have webfilters that automatically block any website with strong/objectionable words in the URL or metatags
This is why it changed from bump-bitches, no? Some people legit could not access the site with the word bitch in the title. It's a valid concern and made the difference in whether a lot of members were even able to join.
5 years TTC 2 c/p's 2 failed IUIs/1 cancelled IVF 1 failed IVF 1 failed FET BFP 12/1/15. We said goodbye to Tiny 1/4/16 Fresh cycle #3 2/16 8R/7M/5F BFP 5/12/16 We said goodbye to flutter on 5/27 and poprock on 5/28 BFP 8/30/16 We said goodbye to Samuel 10/3 (Trisomy 16) Moving on to Donor Embryos BFP 12/20/16 We said goodbye to Turtle 12/30
Oh, that is fantastic. This, this is wine. Look at what these idiots are drinking. Look at these dicks! I mean obviously, it's not really delicious, like hot chocolate or Coke, but for wine...brilliant.
After taking a pregnancy class at my birth center last night, after rolling my eyes at the 20th piece of misinformation/rainbow glitter and wishing we could get to the REAL talk, I thought to myself, "Isn't there any pregnancy resource out there where people tell it like it actually is and will speak up if someone says something stupid?" That's what this place could be. It's hard to establish a forum like that out of nowhere because how can you dictate what the community will turn out to be like, but we've already self-selected based on who was fed up with TD, so we have a HUGE advantage there and I think we should run with it.
At any rate, I agree we are probably overthinking the name at this point, but that will happen in any thread like this.
I absolutely love this train of thought, especially Baby Steps. I think it encompasses all steps in the baby and parenting journey. I also like journey. But that just makes me think of the band.
I'm a big fan of Baby Steps, but a quick URL search indicates that it's already in use. Too bad, too-- it meets a bunch of the criteria already discussed here (intuitive, easy to remember, attention-grabbing in searches, descriptive, and inclusive).
That being said, I'm in the Stork Myth camp at the time being.
I really like "Baby Steps" because of the multiple meanings. Sucks that it's kinda taken... I think that's going to happen more often than not...
I'll bow out at this point. I didn't think this place would be about branding and people writing content and the like. Just a safe haven from where we came from. I'm not interested in any of that to be quite honest. I just want to be able to chat and bullshit with the people I met on TB. I don't really care about soliciting new people. There are thousands here and that's fine.
I totally get what you're saying but I think it's important to consider the benefits of soliciting new people. Honestly, I'm fascinated by this whole process. It's this amazing grass roots cause that really gained momentum. I haven't deleted my username from TB (mainly because I like to lurk and spy) but I did go through saving some of my old posts that were especially meaingful (like my birth story, recovery drama, and one particular post-partum emotional cry for help). As corny as it is, it was nostalgic and sad that TB is, essentially changed forever. I now understand the anger many felt when shit hit the fan because it really was a community and a place for real honest support.
I'd like to think that'd we'd like to continue to open our doors to others so they too can have those same experiences. It's kinda weird saying it, but it's also kinda true, I have to credit my BMB for helping be apart of shaping the mom I am. I guess I could have googled things but I have learned A TON on the boards.
That being said, I love the idea of having a place, with a solid name, to call our permanent home. And I appreciate the effort many are putting into this because i'm a huge proponent of "get it right the first time" (which, for us, would be the 2nd time since we're logically ditching gbcb lingo).
Thank you @hilarityensued I'm all about bringing new people in, but you're right- I'm not about catering to the butthurt glitter farting crowd. They can go to babycenter or the dump or any of the other sites that cater to that demographic.
But the fact that there ARE 6600+ of us here, who DON'T want the glitter and bullshit should be proof that there are others out there who are seeking the same sort of thing- bullshit free conception/pregnancy/parenting advice and camradre, and there are no major communities that provide that anymore.
I don't mean to threadjack or play the pain olympic card, but the admins canceled the meeting last might at my request- my pregnancy tests all continue to be negative (12DPO today) and I'm dealing with some extreme guilt that my teflon fucking uterus killed two more of my children.
I think the more we simply act like ourselves, the more we'll keep the members who mesh well and those that don't will fade away. And, hugs.
They want to have a name that reflects proper "branding" so as to attract people. They are also wanting to have people write "content" on some topics etc. The TTC/loss/IVF people are concerned of not being locateable? (word?) and someone not being able to find this form and not having a "place" if need be.
I think the "branding" aspect is for the far future. It would be nice to have a name that fits now and later. Considering the dump is a shit show i think this site should welcome new members. New members arent going to be drawn to "goodbye cruel dump" for their IF, TTGP, Baby, Parenting etc... advice.
I agree. If we're going to have a new name, we might as well get it right. Why not aim for something that has proper "branding"? As long as it still offers the forum community, we can worry about the rest later and/or never. But at least it's out there.
I'll second this. Also, when it comes to being searchable and the branding that's been discussed, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's so that people who need us can find us. I know that I'm a relative newcomer the forums because I'm a FTM due in June. I have a few friends who have had kids, but it's been really nice to have a group of folks who are going through this at the same time as me. As well as a place to read about the experiences of those who have gone before. I've been able to pass this on to a friend who is having trouble TTC.
As much as I like things the way they are, I also remember where I was 6 months ago: clueless. If the only places for me now were babycenter, TD, and all the other glitter factories out there, I would feel very alone. To me this isn't about turning this into another corporate entity; it's making ourselves available to folks who will find what they need here.
All of this. Now once, Naria is feeling up to it we will get share our full plans and get a real discussion about this going. However, this full discussion will wait until Naria is up for it. It's been less than a month since the forum got going and we have time. We're not in a huge rush to implement our plans. We recognize that no matter what we do, there will probably be a few people who are unhappy about it. We cannot please everyone, but we can and will listen and try to adjust as often as necessary. There are no plans to become a big corporate entity.
McBenny is right there are a ton of other forums out there. I found TONS of them when searching for a place to talk about and get support for my loss during my bump break. However, as was also said most of those forums were inactive or honestly filled with crap information. I did not find a single place where I felt I could get the same support as I did from the ladies on the loss boards from TB (who are now here). @hilarityensued was on point with everything she said as well. Parenting is always going to be what you guys choose to make it. We are never going to try to fit Parenting or GKU into some mold to appease others. If anything it's the opposite. We're not random people being paid to run this board. We're doing it because it's our board too and we love it. Two of the admins are regular posters on Parenting. Our goal is to make sure this place is always a place for intelligent people and not rainbow farts. If someone doesn't like that and isn't willing to learn, then they can move on and we won't miss them. There are more than enough intelligent people who believe in logic, science, and facts to keep us busy. This forum illustrates that so well. For those comparing it to GBCN I think it's important to note that the two forums have somewhat different audiences. Parenting is a pretty stable forum overall, but many of the others are revolving and depend on new people coming in so that some poor person is not left alone on GKU or the loss boards, etc. We would like to see those boards grow instead of disappearing because we have good information to share with new people. Sure we are not the end all, be all. There are other places people can get information, but sometimes it's hard to find in all of the glitter and rainbows. We have information to share that is good and we have people who want to do that.
What I loved about TB was that it was like my "one stop shop" for most questions... breastfeeding, cloth diapering, hell... even when I was picking out a stroller I could peruse the "gear" section.
ON ANOTHER NOTE.... I notice that many posts on TB still solicit our new location (which I love because I'd like people to come here instead of there) but I wonder if that's going to cause a problem in the future? It's possible there are bump mods/admins stalking/spying PB as we speak. Should we be concerned that it'll bite us in the ass later? (like suddenly everything gets shut down because XO is suing PB??)
Anyway... sorry for the long post.... trying out this "multi-quote" thing...
Oh, that is fantastic. This, this is wine. Look at what these idiots are drinking. Look at these dicks! I mean obviously, it's not really delicious, like hot chocolate or Coke, but for wine...brilliant.
I just want to know what this "multi-quote" feature is.
click on the little gear thing in the corner of someone's post and "select" the post. As you continue reading, click on another gear from another post and "select" it. Then when you get to the end of the thread select "reply" (as opposed to quick reply) and in the reply box it will automatically fill with multiple quotes with space inbetween. It's pretty convenient when you have a thought but you don't want to reply until you finish reading.
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