Post by littlemissmarla on Jan 11, 2016 13:29:22 GMT -5
So you may have noticed here or there that I have mentioned I feel DD gets too much screen time. DH and my mom don't really agree with me.
At this point in order to get some things done we have had to let her watch something like when we are doing her nebulizer etc.
When we saw one of the pedis the other day and I mentioned my concerns about her lack of speech she questioned about if she watches a lot of tv. I think she does and I'm afraid it's contributing to her lack of talking.
Is all screen time created equal? On the drive down she likes these baby babble DVDs that basically show objects and pronounce them, ect. But she definitely a Disney Jr,. Junkie.
I asked my mom (who watches her) to cut back on the screen time. Usually when I take her from 3:30 until 5:30 when we are kind of just free playing I will turn on the toddler music channel which just plays songs.
I'm at a loss because I know growing up my screen time was not restricted and I think I turned out ok lol but it's just this nagging feeling I have.
I'd love to hear about your feelings on screen time and how much you allow, ect.
Side note: I put a call into early intervention for her walking/speech so they have 48 hrs to get back to me. Hope we can get an eval soon!
Post by isolemnlyswear on Jan 11, 2016 13:38:17 GMT -5
Parent fail here but we watch way more disney than we should. It's on in the morning and typically off all afternoon (so from 11am onwards) sometimes like today when I'm too exhausted to move it's on more.
C has abouy 20 words and about 10 phrases (where did you/it go?, I love you, what that/this, ect.) She also "talks" all.day.long.
Post by jnnfrrose6 on Jan 11, 2016 13:43:46 GMT -5
Since the kids are in DC during the week, the only screen time they get m-f is limited (an hour each day tops), but the weekends it's definitely more of a crutch for us. I really do think not all screen time is created equal, but that is just content based. I believe I've read that it's not good for their developing eyes to watch too much (but don't quote me on that). We try to not do too much on the weekends, but sometimes you just need to throw on Mickey Mouse clubhouse so you can get some things done. I have been making more of a conscious effort to turn it off and promote playing in their rooms, but it swings both ways because it means less for me, which I also need to be better about when the kids are around.
Post by soon2bmrsn on Jan 11, 2016 13:49:32 GMT -5
We're fairly stringent on tv time. The boys get no more than an hour a day (two in the summer) of total screen time (tv plus they each have a kindle fire for playing games) and DD gets no more than 30 minutes of tv. There are exceptions, of course, for family movie nights and sick days and such. The tv is never just "on" in our house; one of the benefits of being cable-less, IMO.
If what you're doing works, it's probably fine. Maybe just encourage your mom to show more of the baby babble/educational shows.
DD watches 30 mins of Amazon FireStick in the morning and I usually turn it to Seasme street or Daniel the Tiger. I also watched a report that said it is good to have a dialog while the TV is on so it's more interactive...so I ask her if she see the tiger...or what not.
She doesn't watch any during the day though she will watch a few mins when DH turns on Football while he is cooking.
littlemissmarla, I've heard what impacts more the speech is a paci...does she get one in the day? We try to limit DD to only naps, car and bedtime
I have concerns about this as well, because DH and I disagree on how much is appropriate. He seems to put it on more often when he has DS by himself at the house. I limit tv to an hour a day, and I let DS watch nursery rhymes on my phone while I shower. I'm sure after this next baby comes I'll have to allow for a little more tv time, but I still aim to limit it. I have concerns about DS' speech as well- he says several words, and he certainly understands what we say and can point to things in books if we ask, but he doesn't say any phrases and a lot of his speech is not clear. I also think we were giving him a paci too often so we have totally cut that out except for nap and bedtime.
Does Ellen count because I watch that every day. That's usually the only time tv is on. We watch football on Sunday's but he doesn't just sit and watch all day. We watch max of one 30 min show a day. Usually in the mornings or sometimes at night when I'm making dinner.
Post by hurricanerek on Jan 11, 2016 14:27:54 GMT -5
I will say that our tv is on quite a bit but dd very rarely watches it. She just cannot stay focused for that long. We struggle more with phones because she's really attached to ours and loves to watch videos of herself. This will be helpful on the plane but I don't prefer it regularly.
She does have a lot of words so I'm not overly concerned. Soon after I started to watch the two other girls regularly, she picked up on walking and soon after, talking. I wonder if seeing younger people do these things helped her mimic them.
I will say that our tv is on quite a bit but dd very rarely watches it. She just cannot stay focused for that long. We struggle more with phones because she's really attached to ours and loves to watch videos of herself. This will be helpful on the plane but I don't prefer it regularly.
She does have a lot of words so I'm not overly concerned. Soon after I started to watch the two other girls regularly, she picked up on walking and soon after, talking. I wonder if seeing younger people do these things helped her mimic them.
DS2 was so much more verbal than DS1 (or than DD is as well). We think it's because he had DS1 around to talk to/mimic. For some reason, our pedi always disagrees with us and says that he thinks subsequent children seem to talk less because their older siblings talk a lot or sort of translate for the younger sibling when they try to communicate with adults. I think it's too hard to pinpoint or attribute to a single factor. We had DS1, who was read to extensively from birth and who nearly needed EI at two when he only had 3-4 words; DS2, who like I said talked early and often; and now DD, who seems to be more on pace with DS1 even though she has two older siblings and daycare classmates modeling speech for her (plus DH and me, of course...)
I will say that our tv is on quite a bit but dd very rarely watches it. She just cannot stay focused for that long. We struggle more with phones because she's really attached to ours and loves to watch videos of herself. This will be helpful on the plane but I don't prefer it regularly.
She does have a lot of words so I'm not overly concerned. Soon after I started to watch the two other girls regularly, she picked up on walking and soon after, talking. I wonder if seeing younger people do these things helped her mimic them.
DS2 was so much more verbal than DS1 (or than DD is as well). We think it's because he had DS1 around to talk to/mimic. For some reason, our pedi always disagrees with us and says that he thinks subsequent children seem to talk less because their older siblings talk a lot or sort of translate for the younger sibling when they try to communicate with adults. I think it's too hard to pinpoint or attribute to a single factor. We had DS1, who was read to extensively from birth and who nearly needed EI at two when he only had 3-4 words; DS2, who like I said talked early and often; and now DD, who seems to be more on pace with DS1 even though she has two older siblings and daycare classmates modeling speech for her (plus DH and me, of course...)
I think both scenarios are common, and you just have both in your family! I've seen younger sibs do everything early to catch up to the big ones, and also older sibs speaking for the littles, so they don't need to.
Marla, I don't see how it could hurt to cut screen time and see what happens.
We've been pretty strict about screen time (like she only watches TV when we need to cut her nails), but she does ask to look at the baby on my phone, and we facetime for an hour with family most weekend days. I also know her babysitter puts movies on in the background occasionally (which I'd rather she didn't do, but is an issue for another day)
I try to make it interactive rather than passive, which facetime automatically is, and talking about what we're seeing on the screen "what is the baby (her) doing?" "can you find minnie?" the same as I would if we were reading a book.
ETA: The only TV that is usually on while she's awake is the news in the morning while she nurses (turns off when she's done), and sometimes a hockey game in the background. We just save our TV watching for after bedtime.
What should speech look like at this point? I guess it hasn't been on my radar. I counted out her words, and I think she's at about 25 even though most are not clearly enunciated. For instance I know "EE" is either Chelsea, blankie, or please based on what we are doing/talking about. She says "ba" for bottle. Ba-ba-ba for Bubble Guppies. Clear words are mama, dada, baby, up, night-night, no, snow, owl and eye. Then she's okay on some like nose, bear and thank you. Phrases are only thank you and "what's that", I think. But she yammers like a mad woman, and she very much knows what I'm saying when I'm talking to her, because she'll comply about half the time.
Screen times varies. It's usually on, but she only pays attention when it's a kid show. I would say she watches a little in the morning and a little at night. DH will use it as a babysitter which makes me bananas, but I have to pick my battles. She watches Alvin, Bubble Guppies, Shimmer and Shine, and Doc McS. We've never watched a movie with her. Do they sit for these??
Post by littlemissmarla on Jan 11, 2016 15:01:05 GMT -5
As far as the binky I can understand that causing a delay in language, she does love her binky but since she has been sick we have stopped giving her the binky for sleep because she couldn't breathe through her nose and would fight to keep it in her mouth vs breathing. So now she is really only getting the binky if she is really upset. Z has no words, she was saying Dada but stopped, I'm sure there are other factor at play for the lack of speech but I don't want the amount of tv to cause any more harm. Hopefully when I can meet with ECI they can talk to me about screen time and we can see about limiting her even more. We talk and read to her a lot and my mom is really great with her. She responds and follows directions but just doesn't want to talk.
The phone she is not as interested in unless there is a show or something on.
DS2 was so much more verbal than DS1 (or than DD is as well). We think it's because he had DS1 around to talk to/mimic. For some reason, our pedi always disagrees with us and says that he thinks subsequent children seem to talk less because their older siblings talk a lot or sort of translate for the younger sibling when they try to communicate with adults. I think it's too hard to pinpoint or attribute to a single factor. We had DS1, who was read to extensively from birth and who nearly needed EI at two when he only had 3-4 words; DS2, who like I said talked early and often; and now DD, who seems to be more on pace with DS1 even though she has two older siblings and daycare classmates modeling speech for her (plus DH and me, of course...)
I was wondering where your DD is at. I remember us both freaking out a little when she and DS weren't babbling consonants.
Yes, she did do that fairly late. She has about 10 words now, plus a handful of signs.
Post by emilillies on Jan 11, 2016 16:21:56 GMT -5
DD is allowed up to an hour of screen time a day but not in one sitting. I'll generally put Daniel Tiger or little einsteins on in the morning while I drink my coffee and again for a short time before dinner or if I need to prep in the kitchen. We try not to allow tv before bedtime. DD generally runs around while the show is on so I don't think she gets a full hour a day. As far as talking goes, she seems to be repeating a lot of what we say lately and randomly coming out with new words but doesn't nessecarily use the same words on a consistent basis. I try to narrate most of what we do, in my mind it helps.
Eta: I only let her watch certain shows, they must have at least some "educational" element to them. We also watch barney.
Q watches more than I'd like, but I limit it to interactive shows. He counts with Mickey, does colors and stuff like that with Sesame Street. He likes Shrek but we've cut back on that. He has a lot of words and babbles all day long. I don't think tv has impaired him. If he wasn't talking, I'd try cutting it back and see how it went. Does she sign?
N watches zero TV. She has no desire or interest. She babbles like a mad woman as well but the majority of it is untranslatable. She knows exactly what is spoken to her though.
Post by surfmama106 on Jan 11, 2016 17:42:25 GMT -5
During the week I usually let DD watch one episode of Sesame Street and I just started letting her watch Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. Daniel Tiger is good one also though, I'll have to DVR some of those.
On the weekend I'll usually let her watch 2 episodes one in the morning and one in the afternoon.
I'm not crazy about her watching TV but I don't think that's too much and it will come in handy once the new baby gets here and I need to nurse and whatnot.
We definitely don't just keep the TV on though. It's for "sese" time only.
As for talking, she wasn't saying much but I feel like all of the sudden she was saying all sorts of words and phrases. She literally says something new everyday and it's almost hard to keep track of all the things she says.
Also, I've had a couple moms tell me that they worried their kids weren't talking and then one day it was like all of the words came out at once.
This is what happened at our house, for sure. All of the sudden in December, it's been more words than I can keep track of, and all the animal noises. It's also clear that she remembers words and things that happened from before she was speaking, so I know she's just been storing them all up the whole time!
Post by honeybee434 on Jan 11, 2016 19:31:40 GMT -5
We have TV on a lot at our house, but DD doesn't really watch it a ton so I don't really feel like it's a hindrance. I like background noise, so I leave Nick Jr on. The only show she really watches is Bubble Guppies, and even that isn't the entire thing. I should probably turn on music instead, and will if I feel like she's actually watching more of it.
In the mornings if we don't have to be at daycare right away or it's the weekend we give her a bottle and cuddle while there is a show or two on. It gives us a few more minutes to close our eyes if we're tired, and we get cuddle time, so I'm ok with it.
Post by Leapinglizards on Jan 11, 2016 23:23:12 GMT -5
I'll admit size I've let Hannah watch more television lately that I have been under the weather and then she has been under the weather and waking up way to freaking early. If I let her she will sit through multiple episodes of Mickey.
She normally watches till about 8:30 and then we watch in the evening when I am cooking dinner. Now we will tantrum and constantly bring me remote if it is not on so we are working through the Mickey obsession. I love having tv in the background but I am going to have to learn to live without it.
She says yes, no, mom, dad , bye bye, boom, choo choo, ball, and many animal noises. This was all in the last month so I am not sweating it too much.
I'll admit I've let Hannah watch more television lately that I have been under the weather and then she has been under the weather and waking up way to freaking early. If I let her she will sit through multiple episodes of Mickey.
She normally watches till about 8:30 and then we watch in the evening when I am cooking dinner. Now we will tantrum and constantly bring me remote if it is not on so we are working through the Mickey obsession. I love having tv in the background but I am going to have to learn to live without it.
She says yes, no, mom, dad , bye bye, boom, choo choo, ball, and many animal noises. This was all in the last month so I am not sweating it too much.
During the week DS will maybe get 30 minutes/day at most of screen time, because as far as I know daycare doesn't let them watch tv or anything (unless it's a movie day). We also avoid letting him watch it if we can at all during the week. Weekends are a different story, because usually when we first wake up (After breakfast) we'll let him watch tv for about an hour or so because neither one of us is morning people and we use it to have coffee etc. This month and next month DS is at home with DH while he is laid off, so I'm sure there will be more screen time (DH lets him watch it more than I do). He only wants to watch the Little Baby Bum videos, so at least they're nursery rhymes, counting etc. As far as words go, he has a lot to say, its just not overly clear what he's saying. We also have to figure out if it's French or English (he's in a fully french daycare), which makes it a bit tougher. He says dad/papa, maman (french for mom), ba for put it back, blankie and bath, tee for teeth, chh for cheese etc. So he makes a lot of sounds that will eventually be words, I'm not worried yet.
Oh a french day care think that is so awesome. I've read that when babies are around two languages it could be delayed abit (because of consistency) but then it clicks and they are fluent in two languages. I have a friend who speaks one language to her baby and the father speaks another.
sararl07 , I'm pretty sure that's why he isn't saying as many full words yet. I think it'll be worth it in the long run, and I'm excited to hear him toddler speak french (if that makes sense).
I think LO does speak "French" - she often drops the last letter/syllable out of a word, and makes things french sounding.
**This post brought to you by me reading about the google doodle and the author that wrote Cinderella, and a few other fairy tales, one of which is called Les Fées (The Fairies), which is exactly how LO would say Fairy if you asked her to.
Post by mamanorris on Jan 12, 2016 16:04:45 GMT -5
The tv is on way too much here. DH grew up in front of the tv so it's normal for him. I don't watch much at all. I do use it for a crutch during showers and if I need to get something done without little people under my feet. It's a bad habit. Ds2 just had a speech explosion and is a total little chatterbox. Ds1 barely spoke before his 3rd birthday and overnight had all the words. We called to get an eval for speech and in between the call and appt his speech took off.
Our TV is on a lot. He likes Daniel Tiger and Signing Time. He's got a few words but not nearly as much as DS1 had at this age (but he's been a lot later on all of his milestones so far compared to DS1).
How is her receptive language? If she seems to understand a lot of what you say, I wouldn't be as worried about the lack of vocabulary. If she babbles, does she have inflections? Mine will run over and sound like he's telling me a story or asking a question even though it's all just babble. I'm not too worried about the vocabulary yet because he does have good receptive language and will mimic our tones and stuff when he "talks" to us.
*Do I dare admit one of his words is "Dan" for Daniel Tiger? lol
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