Can we talk about this again? I think she's ready but I'm not sure I am! She will almost always pee when placed on the toilet or little potty and a couple days ago she pooped for the first time! Sometimes she even asks for help to use the potty and will start pulling off her pants and diaper. So what do I do? Try to pop her on the potty every 30? 60? minutes? Until the diapers are dry? Or just go for it and put her in underwear? And you still do diapers during nap/night for a while? If I wait and do nothing for a while, will it get harder? It's still ffffing cold here so she's bundled a lot and heavy clothing is way harder for her to remove too Also, 2.0 is still pretty needy and I'm worried I won't be able to get her on the pot often enough and that she'll get frustrated and not want to, she is so happy and proud about it right now! Maybe I should wait until spring break when everyone is home for a week?
Post by g33kyg1rly on Feb 14, 2016 13:36:44 GMT -5
Ironically we're on Day 3 of PT using the method in the Oh Crap Potty Training Book (only day training right now). She recommends 20-30 months as the sweet spot and has a list of readiness signs in there. According to her book, your DD would be ready, but it's also a time investment and might be tougher with a newborn.
The general method is to pick a date as the no more diapers date (at least for daytime). Start them out completely naked and keep an eye on your child all day. When they start to pee or do a pee pee dance, put them on the potty. You can prompt at regular pee times as well (before/after sleep, food, etc).
After they get using the potty naked down (in theory 1-3 days), you put on clothes, but she suggests no underwear for the first few weeks since it feels too much like a diaper. You can also start very brief outings and build up.
We just started clothes today. Pee is going great *knock on wood* but we haven't had a poop since we started (before she'd generally poop 1x day, with an odd skipped day here and there). I can tell she needs to poop and she keeps sitting on the potty to try (on her own), but since she's always been a standing pooper I think it's tough for her to figure it out. And since she wants privacy to poop it makes it hard for me to help her. We're giving her juice and pedialax today to hopefully move things along.
ETA: Having DH home this weekend to tag team and provide support has definitely been helpful (like on day 1 with 5 accidents and I was worrying this was a bad idea). If you think Spring Break would be easiest, maybe you set that as your "go" date. The biggest thing in her book is being able to stay committed once you start.
My fear about DD being naked is her peeing all over our carpet.
We're lucky we have lots of hardwood floors, but she still did manage to get a throw rug and our sofa. (We have an IKEA sofa with a removable/washable cover.) We had bought some carpet cleaner for "pet stains" just in case, but a little dish soap and vinegar mixed with 2 cups of water fixed up the rug.
You can also buy chux pads to have them sit on (for e.g., on the sofa, which we are doing now ), or in the car seat, carpet, etc. but it's still a risk. I was worried about it too, but then when I thought about it more, I realized we didn't really have much that shouldn't be protectable/cleanable/replaceable in a worst case scenario.
Also update: She finally had a poop! Unfortunately not in the potty, but she had pants on so no mess other than the pants. Honestly at this point I'm just glad she was able to go since I was starting to get concerned about constipation. We'll keep working on getting it in the right spot. Fingers crossed...
what are the signs? I am so ready to be diaper-less.
Currently she will pee/poo on the potty if you have her there when she needs to. she can recognize that she did pee/poo, but not that she needs to go. The bad thing for us, she could care less if she is running around with a full load in her diaper...
Also, I have the seat for the toilet, should I start her out on a small floor potty instead of the big one?
Post by g33kyg1rly on Feb 16, 2016 21:10:26 GMT -5
The "Oh Crap" book gives different signs of readiness than I've read in other places. In general:
* They are between 20-30 months (This is what she considers the sweet spot, generally old enough to understand and communicate, but not so old they start they enter the period of "individuation" - better recognizing they are their own independent person who can make their own decisions, which can foster resistance * They retreat to a private area to poop (They recognize when they have to go and equates it as a private function.) * Can recite the ABC song (Nothing about that song in particular, but a good indicator they have learned some language and learn through repetition) * Can communicate their needs
A's signs that made me think she were ready were: * All of the signs listed above from "Oh Crap" * Showed interest in us going * Generally predictable BMs * She would pee on the potty when placed there in the morning and before bed, if she had to go. * She would tell me after she pooped so she could be changed * Once, before I started PT, she told me she had to go potty, I brought her, and she peed
We are currently using the a small floor potty (Summer Infant). We have one in her bathroom upstairs, and one currently in the middle of the living room downstairs so it is highly visible. Next week we'll probably move it into the downstairs bathroom. The book generally recommends the little pot since it can be kept in an easily accessible location to start out, and it is generally easier to poop on since their feet touch the floor.
We're on Day 5 now. Pee is still going great. She's started sometimes just pulling down her own pants, sitting down, and peeing, without even needing to tell me, although I still do a light prompt once an hour ("Remember your potty is in the living room if you need go.). I also make her try before going outside, and before any screen time. Unfortunately we're still having issues with poop. She WANTS to poop on the potty (she'll keep sitting on it to try but not actually pooping), but just doesn't seem able to do so. I think she has a really strong association with her previous poop position (she would stand holding onto the coffee table in the living room and go, generally when no one was in the room [although usually I could see her from the kitchen], but if she thought anyone was looking she wouldn't go. I now regret not taking the opportunity of knowing when she was going to try to redirect to the potty before now (of course, who knows if that would have worked then either). I've tried sitting with her, leaving her alone, reading to her, and even putting it in front of the TV with her favorite show in hopes of relaxing her. Debating how to handle it, since tomorrow will again be 3 days between BMs. Considering putting a diaper on it for a bit to see if that helps her go (even though the book recommends not doing that, I think her pooping is more important), or just calling the pedi to see what they suggest. She is doing so well with pee and so proud of herself that I don't want her to feel like I don't trust her or she failed somehow (which of course she hasn't), but I also don't want her to have constipation issues.
The "Oh Crap" book gives different signs of readiness than I've read in other places. In general:
* They are between 20-30 months (This is what she considers the sweet spot, generally old enough to understand and communicate, but not so old they start they enter the period of "individuation" - better recognizing they are their own independent person who can make their own decisions, which can foster resistance * They retreat to a private area to poop (They recognize when they have to go and equates it as a private function.) * Can recite the ABC song (Nothing about that song in particular, but a good indicator they have learned some language and learn through repetition) * Can communicate their needs
A's signs that made me think she were ready were: * All of the signs listed above from "Oh Crap" * Showed interest in us going * Generally predictable BMs * She would pee on the potty when placed there in the morning and before bed, if she had to go. * She would tell me after she pooped so she could be changed * Once, before I started PT, she told me she had to go potty, I brought her, and she peed
We are currently using the a small floor potty (Summer Infant). We have one in her bathroom upstairs, and one currently in the middle of the living room downstairs so it is highly visible. Next week we'll probably move it into the downstairs bathroom. The book generally recommends the little pot since it can be kept in an easily accessible location to start out, and it is generally easier to poop on since their feet touch the floor.
We're on Day 5 now. Pee is still going great. She's started sometimes just pulling down her own pants, sitting down, and peeing, without even needing to tell me, although I still do a light prompt once an hour ("Remember your potty is in the living room if you need go.). I also make her try before going outside, and before any screen time. Unfortunately we're still having issues with poop. She WANTS to poop on the potty (she'll keep sitting on it to try but not actually pooping), but just doesn't seem able to do so. I think she has a really strong association with her previous poop position (she would stand holding onto the coffee table in the living room and go, generally when no one was in the room [although usually I could see her from the kitchen], but if she thought anyone was looking she wouldn't go. I now regret not taking the opportunity of knowing when she was going to try to redirect to the potty before now (of course, who knows if that would have worked then either). I've tried sitting with her, leaving her alone, reading to her, and even putting it in front of the TV with her favorite show in hopes of relaxing her. Debating how to handle it, since tomorrow will again be 3 days between BMs. Considering putting a diaper on it for a bit to see if that helps her go (even though the book recommends not doing that, I think her pooping is more important), or just calling the pedi to see what they suggest. She is doing so well with pee and so proud of herself that I don't want her to feel like I don't trust her or she failed somehow (which of course she hasn't), but I also don't want her to have constipation issues.
We also got the Oh Crap Potty Training book and I plan to start the day after his birthday (So March 19th). I'm pretty sure he is ready but I am just anxious to see how it all goes. I would like to start the potty training process before DS2 comes (May), and we will tackle night training closer to 3.
g33kyg1rly, have you tried stacking some books in front of her potty chair for her to put her feet on like a squatty potty? I know the Oh Crap book recommended it. Maybe it will help her poop easier.
picked up the oh crap book last night. Now just got to pick the day. Will have to take off work since the next days off I have will be spring break, the weekend of her b-day party. we are out of town next weekend, I cant take any days off the following weekend. Mom will be in town the weekend after that. so may take off the Friday before her birthday. But then I wonder if it would be fair to have her at her b-day party with me worrying about her messing her pants. Should I wait until after? Wish I had time a few weeks before her party...
Post by g33kyg1rly on Feb 17, 2016 20:48:48 GMT -5
@babylentilbean, We did. She'd drink a little of it but not much. We ended up trying the Pedialax chewable again, but I think it was too much because she then got loose stools and we had multiple messy pants today >.< Gonna hold off on any regularity stuff tomorrow.
walkek85 Tried but it wasn't very effective, since then she got up to pick up the books and look at them, lol. Also tried an upside down storage container, which she decided was fun to bang her feet on and make noise :-P Maybe we just need to get a real squatty potty, heh.
It's frustrating because I feel like she is so close, and she wants to do it. I even tried putting her in a pullup for a little bit today when she said she had to poop, but of course she didn't go then.
So proud of her overall today though. We went to Wegmans and I noticed she was squirming in the cart a lot so I asked her if she had to go. She said yes so I took her to the public restroom (first time using one), and she went (pee) like a pro We used a foldable travel potty seat from Amazon, although I wouldn't necessarily recommend it since it didn't fit on the public toilet well and bended a bit when she sat on it. I think I'm gonna look for a different one.
Am I the only one that is going to do potty training without a manual? After the failure of a few sleep books, I don't believe in parenting books.
We have her potty upstairs in our bathroom. Does it make sense to get another one for downstairs? (Her room is upstairs but the playroom & kitchen are downstairs).
Am I the only one that is going to do potty training without a manual? After the failure of a few sleep books, I don't believe in parenting books.
We have her potty upstairs in our bathroom. Does it make sense to get another one for downstairs? (Her room is upstairs but the playroom & kitchen are downstairs).
I've just been winging things as is so I think I'll try it that way with this too. Naive? Probably but I'd like to think we've done an alright job so far. My plan is to get her a potty training dvd and see if she picks anything up and go from there.
I am dreading potty training. Since a bout of constipation when DD was way younger, she has been purposefully holding her poops in. We see a GI specialist and we have a follow up next week where I'm gonna ask about potty training. But basically she's terrified to poop and crosses her legs to hold it in. I don't see her sitting on a potty to let it out any time soon
We used a foldable travel potty seat from Amazon, although I wouldn't necessarily recommend it since it didn't fit on the public toilet well and bended a bit when she sat on it. I think I'm gonna look for a different one.
Which one do you have?... So I can get a different one, lol.
Am I the only one that is going to do potty training without a manual? After the failure of a few sleep books, I don't believe in parenting books.
We have her potty upstairs in our bathroom. Does it make sense to get another one for downstairs? (Her room is upstairs but the playroom & kitchen are downstairs).
I don't have a book but I read a lot of parenting books. Mainly bc I had no clue what I was doing with DS1 and he was/is a hellion. I refuse to make the same mistakes again so I read a lot of different parenting techniques.
Also, I'm planning to get a potty to put downstairs.
Post by g33kyg1rly on Feb 23, 2016 20:49:42 GMT -5
I think the naked time is recommended since it makes it easier for them to feel when they go, and also for you to see any signs/pee-pee dance they might do right before they go.
However, I know my DH said someone at his work trained their son by going to straight to underwear.
Also, this reminded me to give an update that unfortunately while we she was doing EXTREMELY well, we ended up backing off for a while. What I thought was loose stools caused by the pedialax looks like it could have been a stomach bug instead. (Or at least we suspect so, since DH and I both started to have similar issues about a day later...won't give more info, lol.) The symptoms for her also lasted several days, which is more than I think pedialax would last, but who knows.
Unfortunately the issues with controlling her bowels freaked her out, or maybe while she was 100% ready for pee, she just wasn't for poop.
At any rate, she started to act afraid and started holding everything, pee and poop, and seriously resisting the potty. We tried to work through it over the weekend, but in the end decided for health reasons and to avoid any negative connotations with the potty, DH and I agreed to do a reset.
Even with the pull-ups back on, she is still interested in the potty and asking to go sometimes (she asked to poop in the potty last night before bath, even though she could have done it in her pull-up anytime the rest of the day), so I think we'll be in really good shape when we try again. She definitely hasn't lost what she learned.
Unfortunately since it's crunch time for the convention DH & I both volunteer for (and she'll be staying with my parents for the convention), not sure when that will be. It might not be until afterwards (so mid-April-ish).
g33kyg1rly, sorry to hear about the stomach issues with your DD and the delay in potty training. Hopefully she is back on track soon!
On a side note, does your DD know how to pull her own pants down? DS doesn't and I'm wondering how that is going to work when we move to the commando phase.
g33kyg1rly , sorry to hear about the stomach issues with your DD and the delay in potty training. Hopefully she is back on track soon!
On a side note, does your DD know how to pull her own pants down? DS doesn't and I'm wondering how that is going to work when we move to the commando phase.
She didn't when we started. I had even tried to teach her before we started and she had no interest. Once we moved to the commando phase though, she actually figured it out on her own within 2 days (I guess she had an incentive? lol).
Before she figured it out, I just would help her pull her pants down and it didn't seem to be a real impediment.
g33kyg1rly , sorry to hear about the stomach issues with your DD and the delay in potty training. Hopefully she is back on track soon!
On a side note, does your DD know how to pull her own pants down? DS doesn't and I'm wondering how that is going to work when we move to the commando phase.
She didn't when we started. I had even tried to teach her before we started and she had no interest. Once we moved to the commando phase though, she actually figured it out on her own within 2 days (I guess she had an incentive? lol).
Before she figured it out, I just would help her pull her pants down and it didn't seem to be a real impediment.
Good to know. Sounds just like where DS is at, doesn't know how and shows no interest in learning.
March 31st will be the official no more diapers day. I have heard that you can put them in larger T-shirts with no pants if you are against the totally naked thing. As with the underwear, because they are snug some kids confuse them with a diaper. Luckily we have linoleum floors so it will be pant less at our house, too cold to go completely naked.
Good luck everyone and keep posting what's working and not. As well as any success!
We've decided tomorrow is the day! I'm weirdly excited. I think she'll do great. We've done a couple hours, the last couple days commando and haven't had an accident yet! And she's starting to resist putting a diaper on, so hopefully this will avert a battle...
We have had naked time for several hours a day and she is holding her pee until naptime when I put a diaper on her. I ordered the "oh crap" book. It will be here Friday so hopefully it will say how to get her to go instead of holding it for so long.
We're planning to start when I'm on spring break in three weeks. This kid hates being pantless so that may be an issue. In the meantime I'm buying a jug of Nature's Miracle. It works great on pet stains.
First day report: I'm terrible at following directions. It's cold here and she has been doing well at using the potty even before our official start. So we went right to commando. Morning went really well, only 1 accident right after lunch. After nap was going well, but then she had a meltdown when I told her she needed to sit on the potty before dinner. She wouldn't have it, she just kept saying "meatball" (her favorite dinner!) So I told her either sit or a diaper. She chose diaper :/ so I did that. Not sure if that was bad, but she has a cold on top of this, so I don't want to push her so hard that she gets stubborn about it. We'll see what today brings...
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