** Game of Thrones Episode 5 **

[LadyNymeria]

May 22, 2016 21:02:10 GMT -5 housecarder said:

As much as I appreciate that Sansa doesn't trust Little Finger anymore but I think she should use his army.

Agreed. She and Jon need the Knights of the Vale.

[LadyNymeria]

May 22, 2016 21:06:21 GMT -5 mosdub said:

That is not at all how I saw brans storyline playing out. How the hell are they going to escape? Where is meera going to drag him?

Me either. I'm not sure what I was expecting, but it wasn't this. And certainly not his wolf getting killed off!!!!!

[LadyNymeria]

May 22, 2016 21:10:30 GMT -5 mosdub said:

Just wondering- WHY DIDNT TREE GUY EXPLAIN THAT WHITE WALKERS CAN MARK YOU WHEN YOURE OUT IN DREAM LAND? NOT ENOUGH TIME DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER A TREE? THINK THATS NOT PERTINENT INFORMATION???

Considering they had just visited a flashback where the Children of the Forrest person created the While Walker he could have warned him right then to stay away in the visions!!!

[LadyNymeria]

May 22, 2016 21:31:43 GMT -5 rablissful said:

May 22, 2016 21:30:25 GMT -5 mosdub said:

Will there be an episode next week? Sometimes they hold off if it's a holiday weekend

I don't believe it said "in two weeks"during the preview.

I don't remember hearing that either. And I was staring at the screen in shock so I think I would have caught that if they had said it.

[LadyNymeria]

May 22, 2016 21:34:36 GMT -5 housecarder said:

May 22, 2016 21:32:23 GMT -5 pippacricket said:

Don't you wish that evil on Ghost!

As much as I love Ghost and Jon the writers seem to hate the wolves. Jon's about to head into a battle with Ramsay. I honk it will get into a one on one with Jon and Ramsay and Ghost will end up taking one for Jon allowing him or Sansa to end Ramsay.

This better not happen. I will fucking lose it if Ghost goes too.

[LadyNymeria]

May 22, 2016 21:37:56 GMT -5 housecarder said:

May 22, 2016 21:31:31 GMT -5 mosdub said:

I see no way out unless there's some hidden escape tunnel close by? Or someone happens to be on the way to help them?

Maybe Nymeria shows up.

I'm here!!! LOL

But really, I hope she comes back. Maybe Arya will end up back in Westeros and they'll come across each other. Or Jon & Sansa will find her. I realized that's too much optimism for Game of Thrones but I really want her to come back.

[LadyNymeria]

May 22, 2016 21:43:25 GMT -5 rablissful said:

May 22, 2016 21:40:56 GMT -5 mosdub said:

I was thinking so- and quite frankly I think Dany would love Yara, and would hate her uncle. I also hope that they would support the Starks, if the storyline went that way.

+1 to all of this.

Dany would so kill Uncle Scar. Most likely by feeding him to the dragons.

I would SO enjoy this!

I would love to see Yara and Theon end up with either Dany or the Starks. Unless they're going to try to sneak back at some point and kill their Uncle they have to go somewhere.

[LadyNymeria]

May 23, 2016 12:47:40 GMT -5 ironbaby said:

I read an article about what the actor who plays Littlefinger feels about how Littlefinger feels (did that make sense) and he was explaining that this is the first time we see Littlefinger get thrown off his calculations and actually be remorseful. That didn't come across for me.

His normal arrogance is not there, though, so maybe that is as close as he gets to feeling like he's made a mistake. FWIW, I don't think he truly KNEW the level. That he was a brute, maybe, but compared to what we've seen Joffrey do to whores, I think maybe LF thought Ramsey was an improvement.

He seemed to tear up a bit, which if intended was a good add-on to at least make him seem upset about what happened to Sansa. But I was expecting more too after that interview with Aiden Gillen.

[joy]

I feel reasonably certain that Littlefinger has no feelz for anyone other than Littlefinger.

Does he know what he did to Sansa? Absa-fucking-lutely.

[housecarder]

May 23, 2016 14:29:25 GMT -5 joy said:

I feel reasonably certain that Littlefinger has no feelz for anyone other than Littlefinger.

Does he know what he did to Sansa? Absa-fucking-lutely.

Even his "love" for Catelyn I think was just obsession. He saw her as a means to more power and his pride was hurt when he didn't get her.

[joy]

May 23, 2016 14:40:45 GMT -5 housecarder said:

May 23, 2016 14:29:25 GMT -5 joy said:

I feel reasonably certain that Littlefinger has no feelz for anyone other than Littlefinger.

Does he know what he did to Sansa? Absa-fucking-lutely.

Even his "love" for Catelyn I think was just obsession. He saw her as a means to more power and his pride was hurt when he didn't get her.

Oh gosh, yes.

And, even if we want to argue that he didn't explicitly know that Ramsey was Satan, I don't think it matters.  He knew that leaving her there would further his position (in some fucking way, I guess) so Sansa being hurt was merely collateral damage.  Ramsey could have been sweetness and light and Littlefinger wouldn't have cared.  It was about the marriage - it happened, the details are inconsequential to him.

So, my coworker asked - if Sansa says she can still feel what Ramsey did inside her every day, does this mean that she feels his baby?  I have assumed that Sansa would end up pregnant from all this, but then coworker pointed out that Myranda never got pregnant.  So...

[ellabee]

May 23, 2016 14:40:45 GMT -5 housecarder said:

May 23, 2016 14:29:25 GMT -5 joy said:

I feel reasonably certain that Littlefinger has no feelz for anyone other than Littlefinger.

Does he know what he did to Sansa? Absa-fucking-lutely.

Even his "love" for Catelyn I think was just obsession. He saw her as a means to more power and his pride was hurt when he didn't get her.

I actually do think he loved Cat, but he knows now that it was a weakness and he obviously failed quite spectacularly to get her. I think he uses that as motivation to never be/feel that vulnerable ever again. So even when he was "taking care" of Sansa he always had to feel like he wasn't too emotionally involved (I mean there was borderline inappropriate feels/kissing) to be out of control of the situation.

I think there's probably a part of him that recognizes that this tendency of his wrecked whatever reciprocation was possible from Sansa for his protective/possessive feelings.

[housecarder]

May 23, 2016 14:48:55 GMT -5 joy said:

May 23, 2016 14:40:45 GMT -5 housecarder said:

Even his "love" for Catelyn I think was just obsession. He saw her as a means to more power and his pride was hurt when he didn't get her.

Oh gosh, yes.

And, even if we want to argue that he didn't explicitly know that Ramsey was Satan, I don't think it matters.  He knew that leaving her there would further his position (in some fucking way, I guess) so Sansa being hurt was merely collateral damage.  Ramsey could have been sweetness and light and Littlefinger wouldn't have cared.  It was about the marriage - it happened, the details are inconsequential to him.

So, my coworker asked - if Sansa says she can still feel what Ramsey did inside her every day, does this mean that she feels his baby?  I have assumed that Sansa would end up pregnant from all this, but then coworker pointed out that Myranda never got pregnant.  So...

But I doubt that Ramsay wanted Myranda pregnant. No bastards to deal with. So I'm sure they probably avoided it. He wanted an heir in Sansa as quickly as possible. I hope she isn't pregnant, but it would be an interesting twist, especially if they kill Ramsay, now she is carrying the heir to the Bolton's and the Warden of the North. They might not need Bran, Rickon, or Jon to hang around. Or she takes the Dreadfort for her son.

[joy]

May 23, 2016 15:05:54 GMT -5 housecarder said:

But I doubt that Ramsay wanted Myranda pregnant. No bastards to deal with. So I'm sure they probably avoided it. He wanted an heir in Sansa as quickly as possible. I hope she isn't pregnant, but it would be an interesting twist, especially if they kill Ramsay, now she is carrying the heir to the Bolton's and the Warden of the North. They might not need Bran, Rickon, or Jon to hang around. Or she takes the Dreadfort for her son.

You have a lot of faith in Westerosi birth control :-)

[housecarder]

May 23, 2016 16:06:43 GMT -5 joy said:

May 23, 2016 15:05:54 GMT -5 housecarder said:

But I doubt that Ramsay wanted Myranda pregnant. No bastards to deal with. So I'm sure they probably avoided it. He wanted an heir in Sansa as quickly as possible. I hope she isn't pregnant, but it would be an interesting twist, especially if they kill Ramsay, now she is carrying the heir to the Bolton's and the Warden of the North. They might not need Bran, Rickon, or Jon to hang around. Or she takes the Dreadfort for her son.

You have a lot of faith in Westerosi birth control :-)

I was thinking more creative sex during peak fertile times

[joy]

May 23, 2016 16:11:37 GMT -5 housecarder said:

May 23, 2016 16:06:43 GMT -5 joy said:

You have a lot of faith in Westerosi birth control :-)

I was thinking more creative sex during peak fertile times

And I'n thinking they have very little clue about "fertile times."

But - who knows??

[housecarder]

May 23, 2016 16:31:43 GMT -5 joy said:

May 23, 2016 16:11:37 GMT -5 housecarder said:

I was thinking more creative sex during peak fertile times

And I'n thinking they have very little clue about "fertile times."

But - who knows??

[LadyNymeria]

May 23, 2016 16:31:43 GMT -5 joy said:

May 23, 2016 16:11:37 GMT -5 housecarder said:

I was thinking more creative sex during peak fertile times

And I'n thinking they have very little clue about "fertile times."

But - who knows??

A few seasons back Cersei and Grand Maester Pycelle talk about her "symptoms" clearing up after Jamie gets back. I always assumed it was referring to an unwanted pregnancy and Pycelle did or gave her something to take care of it. If Myranda had ever gotten pregnant I imagine Ramsay could have gotten their Maester to take care of it too.

Unless my assumption of what Cersei/Pycelle were talking about is completely off base (which could be completely possible and there's no where for me to confirm or disprove), in which case I have no idea.

[rablissful]

May 23, 2016 16:43:34 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

May 23, 2016 16:31:43 GMT -5 joy said:

And I'n thinking they have very little clue about "fertile times."

But - who knows??

A few seasons back Cersei and Grand Maester Pycelle talk about her "symptoms" clearing up after Jamie gets back. I always assumed it was referring to an unwanted pregnancy and Pycelle did or gave her something to take care of it. If Myranda had ever gotten pregnant I imagine Ramsay could have gotten their Maester to take care of it too.

Unless my assumption of what Cersei/Pycelle were talking about is completely off base (which could be completely possible and there's no where for me to confirm or disprove), in which case I have no idea.

In the books Lysa got KU by little finger as teenagers and her father made her take an elixir of sorts to get rid of it.

Gawd I hope that Sansa can get some of that.

That being said, she could also just have a torn up vagina with extreme damage to it. He did rape her on a nightly basis. That will leave damage and pain for months.

[LadyNymeria]

May 23, 2016 21:36:22 GMT -5 rablissful said:

May 23, 2016 16:43:34 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

A few seasons back Cersei and Grand Maester Pycelle talk about her "symptoms" clearing up after Jamie gets back. I always assumed it was referring to an unwanted pregnancy and Pycelle did or gave her something to take care of it. If Myranda had ever gotten pregnant I imagine Ramsay could have gotten their Maester to take care of it too.

Unless my assumption of what Cersei/Pycelle were talking about is completely off base (which could be completely possible and there's no where for me to confirm or disprove), in which case I have no idea.

In the books Lysa got KU by little finger as teenagers and her father made her take an elixir of sorts to get rid of it.

Gawd I hope that Sansa can get some of that.

That being said, she could also just have a torn up vagina with extreme damage to it. He did rape her on a nightly basis. That will leave damage and pain for months.

Am I the only one who thought Sansa was referring to anal pain/damage? He wanted an heir more than anything. Would he risk damaging her vagina before she produced an heir? I was assuming no. Obviously the sex wasn't loving so there would be pain for Sansa no matter what, but I was taking the "other" things he did to her as sodomy related.

[PepperPottsJ]

May 22, 2016 21:42:19 GMT -5 pippacricket said:

I mean, wherever they're going they've got like months head start on Uncle Scar. It must take forever to build boats from scratch.

They must been heading to Meereen with their amazing ships, no? (Clearly couldn't wait not to comment anymore ). This watching Monday night shit if for the sparrows)

[PepperPottsJ]

May 23, 2016 6:58:23 GMT -5 pippacricket said:

I'm totally spiraling on reviews of last night's episode. Some are saying that maybe Bran is the voice(s) the Mad King hears? How messed up would it be if Bran is the reason this entire story happened in the first place??

I'm absolutely convinced of this...

[PepperPottsJ]

May 23, 2016 22:36:31 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

May 23, 2016 21:36:22 GMT -5 rablissful said:

In the books Lysa got KU by little finger as teenagers and her father made her take an elixir of sorts to get rid of it.

Gawd I hope that Sansa can get some of that.

That being said, she could also just have a torn up vagina with extreme damage to it. He did rape her on a nightly basis. That will leave damage and pain for months.

Am I the only one who thought Sansa was referring to anal pain/damage? He wanted an heir more than anything. Would he risk damaging her vagina before she produced an heir? I was assuming no. Obviously the sex wasn't loving so there would be pain for Sansa no matter what, but I was taking the "other" things he did to her as sodomy related.

THANK YOU!!! I have been wondering why I was all alone in this.

[housecarder]

May 23, 2016 23:22:12 GMT -5 PepperPottsJ said:

May 23, 2016 22:36:31 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

Am I the only one who thought Sansa was referring to anal pain/damage? He wanted an heir more than anything. Would he risk damaging her vagina before she produced an heir? I was assuming no. Obviously the sex wasn't loving so there would be pain for Sansa no matter what, but I was taking the "other" things he did to her as sodomy related.

THANK YOU!!! I have been wondering why I was all alone in this.

I just figured that she still had scars from being cut deep that hurt. I didn't think she meant just sexually.

[housecarder]

May 23, 2016 22:56:31 GMT -5 PepperPottsJ said:

May 23, 2016 6:58:23 GMT -5 pippacricket said:

I'm totally spiraling on reviews of last night's episode. Some are saying that maybe Bran is the voice(s) the Mad King hears? How messed up would it be if Bran is the reason this entire story happened in the first place??

I'm absolutely convinced of this...

I'm on the fence. Bran is a dumb kid and maybe he sees what happened to Hodor and thinks "Hey I can go back and fix everything by stopping the Mad King." and ends up causing the madness by trying to talk to him.

But on the other hand, the Targaryens were know for being unstable because of inbreeding. The Mad King became increasingly obsessed with burning enemies because he was "the dragon". We saw the same madness and arrogance in Dany's brother. In the end he ordered the entirety of Kings Landing to be burned to the ground with wildfire, thinking he would emerge unburnt, reborn as the dragon. I doubt that this is a delusion that Bran caused.

[rablissful]

May 23, 2016 22:36:31 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

May 23, 2016 21:36:22 GMT -5 rablissful said:

In the books Lysa got KU by little finger as teenagers and her father made her take an elixir of sorts to get rid of it.

Gawd I hope that Sansa can get some of that.

That being said, she could also just have a torn up vagina with extreme damage to it. He did rape her on a nightly basis. That will leave damage and pain for months.

Am I the only one who thought Sansa was referring to anal pain/damage? He wanted an heir more than anything. Would he risk damaging her vagina before she produced an heir? I was assuming no. Obviously the sex wasn't loving so there would be pain for Sansa no matter what, but I was taking the "other" things he did to her as sodomy related.

I mean, I'm sure there was also sodomy because it's Ramsey, but he wanted an heir so bad I'm sure most of it was vaginal sex. He probably gives no fucks about damaging her vagina as long as her belly grows.

[joy]

May 23, 2016 22:36:31 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

May 23, 2016 21:36:22 GMT -5 rablissful said:

In the books Lysa got KU by little finger as teenagers and her father made her take an elixir of sorts to get rid of it.

Gawd I hope that Sansa can get some of that.

That being said, she could also just have a torn up vagina with extreme damage to it. He did rape her on a nightly basis. That will leave damage and pain for months.

Am I the only one who thought Sansa was referring to anal pain/damage? He wanted an heir more than anything. Would he risk damaging her vagina before she produced an heir? I was assuming no. Obviously the sex wasn't loving so there would be pain for Sansa no matter what, but I was taking the "other" things he did to her as sodomy related.

Nope - this is how I interpreted it.

[ellabee]

May 23, 2016 22:36:31 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

May 23, 2016 21:36:22 GMT -5 rablissful said:

In the books Lysa got KU by little finger as teenagers and her father made her take an elixir of sorts to get rid of it.

Gawd I hope that Sansa can get some of that.

That being said, she could also just have a torn up vagina with extreme damage to it. He did rape her on a nightly basis. That will leave damage and pain for months.

Am I the only one who thought Sansa was referring to anal pain/damage? He wanted an heir more than anything. Would he risk damaging her vagina before she produced an heir? I was assuming no. Obviously the sex wasn't loving so there would be pain for Sansa no matter what, but I was taking the "other" things he did to her as sodomy related.

This was my first thought too!

[housecarder]

It's Tuesday. Why haven't we spiraled into Jon Snow pics and gifs yet?

[doodler]