Hey guys, on the HSG/SHG discussion, does anyone know why they do one v. the other? I had HSG a year ago and my doc said my tests had to be redone for insurance to approve another IVF bc they were a year old. This time she's doing SHG, though. Just curious if anyone knows why I'd have one over the other?
**grad warning** I had an HSG when we did our initial IF testing because it shows if your tubes are clear. I had and SHG after my loss because it only shows what's going on in your ute (no tubes). My RE was making sure there was nothing left over after my miscarriage. My understanding was the HSG was primarily for checking tubes and the SHG checks uterine shape/contents.
This is my understanding also. The only thing questionable on my HSG was the top of my ute was *slightly* concave when it would normally be level. The physician didn't seem concerned but he did say that it's possible the RE may want to follow up with an SHG at some point.
Funny story, I googled this and came across a blog from someone on TD from 2010/2011, woah. Demanding clomid, demanding progesterone, 'but she's not a doctor' 8/
Edited follow up with an SHg. My autocorrect doesn't like that for some reason.
Hey guys, on the HSG/SHG discussion, does anyone know why they do one v. the other? I had HSG a year ago and my doc said my tests had to be redone for insurance to approve another IVF bc they were a year old. This time she's doing SHG, though. Just curious if anyone knows why I'd have one over the other?
I wonder this too. It seems from the discussion here and from my discussion with my OB that they can both be used to check tubes so maybe it's just doctor's preference?
My RE still recommends HSG to people who have endo and some other conditions that make tube issues likelier, I think.
I wonder this too. It seems from the discussion here and from my discussion with my OB that they can both be used to check tubes so maybe it's just doctor's preference?
My RE still recommends HSG to people who have endo and some other conditions that make tube issues likelier, I think.
*grad warning* I had no history of endo or any tubal problems and had two previous pregnancies so they had no reason to assume tubal issues. But my HSG showed both blocked just 3 years after giving birth to my son. I'm a big advocate for rechecking everything if it's been awhile. I conceived my son on just clomid, so we jumped right back into clomid and then IUIs assuming what worked before would work again before retesting in an attempt to save money. Turns out it was all wasted.
We had no reason to assume that my tubes were blocked. The HSG was just the standard tube/uterus check that my RE ordered. The alternatives were never mentioned. Turns out, one was clear and the other was "maybe" blocked. They couldn't be sure.
Also? I can't believe how many people had no/minimal pain with their HSG. Mine hurt like a motherfucker. My uterus did not care for the dye, I guess. Hmmph.
My RE still recommends HSG to people who have endo and some other conditions that make tube issues likelier, I think.
*grad warning* I had no history of endo or any tubal problems and had two previous pregnancies so they had no reason to assume tubal issues. But my HSG showed both blocked just 3 years after giving birth to my son. I'm a big advocate for rechecking everything if it's been awhile. I conceived my son on just clomid, so we jumped right back into clomid and then IUIs assuming what worked before would work again before retesting in an attempt to save money. Turns out it was all wasted.
Oh totally. I agree. I forgot to mention that he pushes for HSG, and also pushes for using a device to make bubbles in the saline during SHG/SIS that reveals tube blockage, I don't know all his criteria for why he'd say to do one over the other every time. Everyone needs that checked, my RE just selects a different test to do that depending on the case.
*grad warning* I had no history of endo or any tubal problems and had two previous pregnancies so they had no reason to assume tubal issues. But my HSG showed both blocked just 3 years after giving birth to my son. I'm a big advocate for rechecking everything if it's been awhile. I conceived my son on just clomid, so we jumped right back into clomid and then IUIs assuming what worked before would work again before retesting in an attempt to save money. Turns out it was all wasted.
Oh totally. I agree. I forgot to mention that he pushes for HSG, and also pushes for using a device to make bubbles in the saline during SHG/SIS that reveals tube blockage, I don't know all his criteria for why he'd say to do one over the other every time. Everyone needs that checked, my RE just selects a different test to do that depending on the case.
Same. My OB is mainly doing my SHG to check tubes, but I have no idea why she's doing an SHG over an HSG.
Sorry, Joy, my body is broken in a good way this time. I felt practically nothing for either HSG. *humblebrag* Not even minor cramping the second time.
We had no reason to assume that my tubes were blocked. The HSG was just the standard tube/uterus check that my RE ordered. The alternatives were never mentioned. Turns out, one was clear and the other was "maybe" blocked. They couldn't be sure.
Also? I can't believe how many people had no/minimal pain with their HSG. Mine hurt like a motherfucker. My uterus did not care for the dye, I guess. Hmmph.
It's probably because we had blockage. Mine was completely awful, I have a high pain tolerance and almost cried. But they were also having me twist and turn so that the dye forced its way through blockages. It was not a fun time.
Not to try and scare anyone, just make sure you take the ibuprofen ahead of time.
Post by teachermomtobe on May 26, 2016 10:17:39 GMT -5
Thanks for the love ladies! The appt went well. If my betas are negative on 6/2 then we're taking a cycle off and will start IVF with my next period end of June/early July. They showed us how to do all the meds and my H was like "so many shots!" Um no shit that's what I've been telling you! All the paperwork is signed and any remaining blood tests for both of us are done. I was a bit emotional about it but I'm feeling good about the plan and moving forward. Still hoping it's unnecessary.
Post by ohinvrtedworld on May 26, 2016 10:29:02 GMT -5
teachermomtobe glad it went well! Of course all things crossed that you won't need to move to IVF but it's good to feel good about that plan should it come to that.
Post by wannabmama on May 26, 2016 11:20:26 GMT -5
I hate all things that require a catheter be inserted...I thought I was going to pass out. And then they had to use a different one after trying for a minute with the first one. But it's over and all looked ok I guess...and now I'm just leaking saline. Boy all this stuff is just. So. Much. Fun. Now I get to go back to work...the fun just never ends in wanna world.
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
I hate all things that require a catheter be inserted...I thought I was going to pass out. And then they had to use a different one after trying for a minute with the first one. But it's over and all looked ok I guess...and now I'm just leaking saline. Boy all this stuff is just. So. Much. Fun. Now I get to go back to work...the fun just never ends in wanna world.
Ugh I'm sorry it wasn't easy for them to insert it! I agree, that was the part I didn't like yesterday. Glad everything looked ok from what they saw!
I hate all things that require a catheter be inserted...I thought I was going to pass out. And then they had to use a different one after trying for a minute with the first one. But it's over and all looked ok I guess...and now I'm just leaking saline. Boy all this stuff is just. So. Much. Fun. Now I get to go back to work...the fun just never ends in wanna world.
I'm super nervous about the catheter. I have zero idea what to expect it to be like. I'm actually nervous about the whole procedure.
I hate all things that require a catheter be inserted...I thought I was going to pass out. And then they had to use a different one after trying for a minute with the first one. But it's over and all looked ok I guess...and now I'm just leaking saline. Boy all this stuff is just. So. Much. Fun. Now I get to go back to work...the fun just never ends in wanna world.
I'm super nervous about the catheter. I have zero idea what to expect it to be like. I'm actually nervous about the whole procedure.
I just seem to cramp a lot. I'd always noticed during a pap when they do the one part where they war you it may pinch or you may cramp that I cramped...a lot. The catheter is the same feeling for me. Then once I'm cramped, it's just uncomfortable til they're done. Luckily it's pretty quick with either procedure. It wasn't horrible just like bad period cramps.
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
I hate all things that require a catheter be inserted...I thought I was going to pass out. And then they had to use a different one after trying for a minute with the first one. But it's over and all looked ok I guess...and now I'm just leaking saline. Boy all this stuff is just. So. Much. Fun. Now I get to go back to work...the fun just never ends in wanna world.
Ugh. At least it's over!
I hate everything with catheters too. They discovered during my HSG that I have an angled cervix or something and it was very challenging for them to get the catheter in. And it hurt like crazy once they finally got it in place. So of course when I had my IUI, they again had a lot of trouble getting the catheter in. And I had a crazy full bladder for that procedure so that was almost worse than the HSG.
Yep, add me to the list of catheter haters. The part of my HSG when they tried to go through my cervix was probably the most pain I've ever experienced. When I have IUIs and a catheter is used I don't feel anywhere near that amount of pain.
Me: 31 Wife: 30. Legally married 2008, thanks CA! TTC #1 since 11/14 using donor sperm. IUIs Jan-Aug 2015 BFN Sept & OCT 2015 added Femara. BFN Saw RE December 2015. IUI with Clomid & Trigger Jan 2016 BFN IUI #13 with Follistim April 2016 BFFN IVF #1 July 2016. 14R, 10F, 6 Day 5 embryos. 4 PGS normal embabies!
Post by ohinvrtedworld on May 26, 2016 16:14:53 GMT -5
kayladawn91, you can do it!! You're a strong independent woman! *z snap* I thought of it like, giving birth to a baby involves a lot of pain and people say it's worth it, so if it takes some catheter pain to get pregnant hopefully that'll be worth it too
Post by teachermomtobe on May 26, 2016 16:41:09 GMT -5
Back here for a quick question: Anyone else not use BCPs to start their IVF cycle? My RE said no need but I had heard so many people start that way. Is that concerning?
Back here for a quick question: Anyone else not use BCPs to start their IVF cycle? My RE said no need but I had heard so many people start that way. Is that concerning?
No BCPs here (yay!) just estrogen patch for a week before my cycle starts or something like that.
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
Back here for a quick question: Anyone else not use BCPs to start their IVF cycle? My RE said no need but I had heard so many people start that way. Is that concerning?
Me: 31 Wife: 30. Legally married 2008, thanks CA! TTC #1 since 11/14 using donor sperm. IUIs Jan-Aug 2015 BFN Sept & OCT 2015 added Femara. BFN Saw RE December 2015. IUI with Clomid & Trigger Jan 2016 BFN IUI #13 with Follistim April 2016 BFFN IVF #1 July 2016. 14R, 10F, 6 Day 5 embryos. 4 PGS normal embabies!
We had no reason to assume that my tubes were blocked. The HSG was just the standard tube/uterus check that my RE ordered. The alternatives were never mentioned. Turns out, one was clear and the other was "maybe" blocked. They couldn't be sure.
Also? I can't believe how many people had no/minimal pain with their HSG. Mine hurt like a motherfucker. My uterus did not care for the dye, I guess. Hmmph.
Seriously, mine was pretty bad too. They had a terrible time getting the catheter in. Some people must be masochists.
Post by ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ on May 26, 2016 21:37:18 GMT -5
BFN today. So we're on to IVF. Who will end up being my cycle buddy??
Waiting for my period to start. I go in for CD3 blood work and go on BC CD4. I'm wishing my period would hurry up, but it doesn't really matter. Like previously mentioned, they're just gonna sync me up with a bunch of other nervous nellys.
BFN today. So we're on to IVF. Who will end up being my cycle buddy??
Waiting for my period to start. I go in for CD3 blood work and go on BC CD4. I'm wishing my period would hurry up, but it doesn't really matter. Like previously mentioned, they're just gonna sync me up with a bunch of other nervous nellys.
BFN today. So we're on to IVF. Who will end up being my cycle buddy??
Waiting for my period to start. I go in for CD3 blood work and go on BC CD4. I'm wishing my period would hurry up, but it doesn't really matter. Like previously mentioned, they're just gonna sync me up with a bunch of other nervous nellys.
Hugs Broc. I'm sorry. Good luck moving forward with IVF.
BFN today. So we're on to IVF. Who will end up being my cycle buddy??
Waiting for my period to start. I go in for CD3 blood work and go on BC CD4. I'm wishing my period would hurry up, but it doesn't really matter. Like previously mentioned, they're just gonna sync me up with a bunch of other nervous nellys.
Me: 31 Wife: 30. Legally married 2008, thanks CA! TTC #1 since 11/14 using donor sperm. IUIs Jan-Aug 2015 BFN Sept & OCT 2015 added Femara. BFN Saw RE December 2015. IUI with Clomid & Trigger Jan 2016 BFN IUI #13 with Follistim April 2016 BFFN IVF #1 July 2016. 14R, 10F, 6 Day 5 embryos. 4 PGS normal embabies!
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