Med-Free Monday Check-in

[CTri17]

Feb 9, 2015 23:04:08 GMT -5 robotpcr said:

Feb 9, 2015 22:17:02 GMT -5 mpiemont said:

I haven't read The Birth Partner yet- I might have to get my hands on it.

I'm in the middle of it.  I like it a lot thus far.

I'm waiting for a copy to be available at the library

viola my library doesn't carry Primal moms *wah*

[CTri17]

CTri17,brittneysandra,lgsdesigner,cbrandt1,rels09,Ee,beeorange,@deziniki,grapefruits,Starbuck128,mpiemont,hotcoconuts82,chailife34,smilz4782,fikmama1986, I don't think the quick tags got everyone, but if you have ideas for things you would like to discuss go ahead and put them in the thread and I'll compile a list

another one I think we should talk about is CPD (cephalo pelvic disproportion)

[grapefruits]

Feb 9, 2015 23:08:03 GMT -5 CTri17 said:

another one I think we should talk about is CPD (cephalo pelvic disproportion)

Yes! I've been told (by non-professionals) that I'll likely need a c/s because I have narrow hips. I'd like to know if there's any truth to that.

[grapefruits]

Feb 9, 2015 23:08:03 GMT -5 CTri17 said:

another one I think we should talk about is CPD (cephalo pelvic disproportion)

Yes! I've been told (by non-professionals) that I'll likely need a c/s because I have narrow hips. I'd like to know if there's any truth to that.

[CTri17]

Feb 9, 2015 23:15:12 GMT -5 grapefruits said:

Feb 9, 2015 23:08:03 GMT -5 CTri17 said:

another one I think we should talk about is CPD (cephalo pelvic disproportion)

Yes! I've been told (by non-professionals) that I'll likely need a c/s because I have narrow hips. I'd like to know if there's any truth to that.

I can 99% say no!

[Starbuck128]

Feb 9, 2015 23:15:06 GMT -5 grapefruits said:

Feb 9, 2015 23:08:03 GMT -5 CTri17 said:

another one I think we should talk about is CPD (cephalo pelvic disproportion)

Yes! I've been told (by non-professionals) that I'll likely need a c/s because I have narrow hips. I'd like to know if there's any truth to that.

That's very unlikely. The pelvis and the baby are very flexible. Everything should fit. Hips widen in pregnancy, and can still widen during labor. I came out of labor with stretch marks on my hips that weren't there before it started. I think I have the 99% head and nuchal hand to thank for them.

[chailife34]

@ajzmommy what documentary did you watch?

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Feb 10, 2015 1:17:20 GMT -5 chailife34 said:

@ajzmommy what documentary did you watch?

The business of giving birth. It cover lightly a bit of everything. Med-free, epidural, c-section etc. Although it's geared towards natural birth, it also gives information on all your choices because it wants women to be empowered with any decision.

Also it has this great interview with Ina May.

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Feb 9, 2015 21:21:54 GMT -5 brittneysandra said:

Feb 9, 2015 15:17:57 GMT -5 @ajzmommy said:

26+3
Two previous med-free births. Hoping this one is the same.
I have done nothing except watch a documentary to prepare me for this birth.

BTW I have still have the last piece of The business of being born left, But I finally saw the part about Brazil 93% C-Section rate!..
Im in disbelief!! Theres so many things I wanna say about it! I can't even deal! Like seriously they just made these women terrified of giving birth ANY other way besides c-section! 
:shaking my head:

Wasn't that whole section just jaw dropping? I was in complete shock. The worst was finding out what mothers that want a vaginal birth have to go through. I mean the automatically get pitocin even if they're contractions started, a iv, a catheter etc. No wonder the upper class wants nothing to do with it.

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Feb 9, 2015 23:15:12 GMT -5 grapefruits said:

Feb 9, 2015 23:08:03 GMT -5 CTri17 said:

another one I think we should talk about is CPD (cephalo pelvic disproportion)

Yes! I've been told (by non-professionals) that I'll likely need a c/s because I have narrow hips. I'd like to know if there's any truth to that.

This is what I was always afraid of! Then I got pregnant and started asking ob/gyns, and the "hips too narrow" thing is only rarely a thing and in the case of very large babies. Knowing that, I'm going to really try hard to avoid a c-section. At this point there's no reason I should expect to need one because I'm low risk for everything.

[brittneysandra]

Feb 10, 2015 6:06:56 GMT -5 @ajzmommy said:

Feb 9, 2015 21:21:54 GMT -5 brittneysandra said:

BTW I have still have the last piece of The business of being born left, But I finally saw the part about Brazil 93% C-Section rate!..
Im in disbelief!! Theres so many things I wanna say about it! I can't even deal! Like seriously they just made these women terrified of giving birth ANY other way besides c-section! 
:shaking my head:

Wasn't that whole section just jaw dropping? I was in complete shock. The worst was finding out what mothers that want a vaginal birth have to go through. I mean the automatically get pitocin even if they're contractions started, a iv, a catheter etc. No wonder the upper class wants nothing to do with it.

I know!! They make it so that regular labor is so horrific that you would never want it!!.. absolutely unbelievable! 

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Feb 10, 2015 8:24:45 GMT -5 beeorange said:

Feb 9, 2015 23:08:03 GMT -5 CTri17 said:

CTri17,brittneysandra,lgsdesigner,cbrandt1,rels09,Ee,beeorange,@deziniki,grapefruits,Starbuck128,mpiemont,hotcoconuts82,chailife34,smilz4782,fikmama1986, I don't think the quick tags got everyone, but if you have ideas for things you would like to discuss go ahead and put them in the thread and I'll compile a list

another one I think we should talk about is CPD (cephalo pelvic disproportion)

I don't have a lot of knowledge about med-free births, so any topic would be good for me honestly. 

Personally, I'd like to hear more about:

- Why keeping the bag of water intact can be helpful
- How to avoid unnecessary interventions (I'll be at a hospital)
- Birthing positions 

I will research these on my own as well, but just trying to think of things that others might find helpful as well. 

Have you had your hospital tour yet? This appointment is where I would talk about if they allow low intervention. Make a list and see what they will allow you to do. Low interventions such as no baby monitor attached gives you the option to do a lot more than be restrained to the bed. I was allowed to walk around the L&D floor which helped keep mg mind off the pain.

Also, during labor at the hospital, I remember the anesthesiologist came in twice. The second time they came about the epidural I expressed that I didn't want them to come back. Then they won't come back unless specifically asked.

[cbrandt1]

Feb 9, 2015 23:08:03 GMT -5 CTri17 said:

CTri17,brittneysandra,lgsdesigner,cbrandt1,rels09,Ee,beeorange,@deziniki,grapefruits,Starbuck128,mpiemont,hotcoconuts82,chailife34,smilz4782,fikmama1986, I don't think the quick tags got everyone, but if you have ideas for things you would like to discuss go ahead and put them in the thread and I'll compile a list

another one I think we should talk about is CPD (cephalo pelvic disproportion)

I actually haven't given this much thought. I had very narrow hips pre-pregnancy, they've expanded quite a bit, but they are still narrow. I guess I just try to have faith that my body knows what it needs to do. I do panic a bit at times, afraid that the pain will be more than I can handle. I'm also nervous about when my MW leaves after baby is born. 

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Feb 10, 2015 8:51:43 GMT -5 beeorange said:

Feb 10, 2015 8:45:36 GMT -5 @ajzmommy said:

Have you had your hospital tour yet? This appointment is where I would talk about if they allow low intervention. Make a list and see what they will allow you to do. Low interventions such as no baby monitor attached gives you the option to do a lot more than be restrained to the bed. I was allowed to walk around the L&D floor which helped keep mg mind off the pain.

Also, during labor at the hospital, I remember the anesthesiologist came in twice. The second time they came about the epidural I expressed that I didn't want them to come back. Then they won't come back unless specifically asked.

No, I don't even know who to contact to set up the hospital tour. I've scoured the website and can't find any information about hospital tours. 

When I had DD I only saw the anesthesiologist once and that was after asking for the epidural and having to wait for an hour to get it. This was at a different hospital though. If my doctor insists on monitoring the whole time can I refuse or only agree to some of the time? I think it would be more beneficial to me/my labor to be able to move around as I pleased. With DD I could only get up to use the bathroom (before getting the epidural of course). 

Response to the bolded:  This is something you should talk about with your doctor ahead of time.  Being able to walk around during labor is really important to me, and I asked my doctor at my last appointment what she thought.  She said that since I'm so low risk and fit I would be a good candidate for intermittent monitoring, and it definitely shouldn't be a problem.

If you do have a complication (like your water breaks at 36 weeks, which is what happened to my friend who was really super committed to a natural hospital birth), some hospitals have options for staying mobile while having continuous fetal heart rate monitoring.  My friend got a continuous monitor that she could wear as a backpack while she walked around the hospital.  That's also a think you should ask about on the hospital tour, when you find it.

[hotcoconuts82]

Feb 9, 2015 23:30:07 GMT -5 CTri17 said:

Feb 9, 2015 23:15:12 GMT -5 grapefruits said:

Yes! I've been told (by non-professionals) that I'll likely need a c/s because I have narrow hips. I'd like to know if there's any truth to that.

I can 99% say no!

I'm a very small, thin person.  I'm built like a 10 year old.  No wide hips here, and both of my babies came out with less than 10 pushes.  People don't know stuff!  Don't let them get inside your head. 

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Feb 10, 2015 8:51:43 GMT -5 beeorange said:

Feb 10, 2015 8:45:36 GMT -5 @ajzmommy said:

Have you had your hospital tour yet? This appointment is where I would talk about if they allow low intervention. Make a list and see what they will allow you to do. Low interventions such as no baby monitor attached gives you the option to do a lot more than be restrained to the bed. I was allowed to walk around the L&D floor which helped keep mg mind off the pain.

Also, during labor at the hospital, I remember the anesthesiologist came in twice. The second time they came about the epidural I expressed that I didn't want them to come back. Then they won't come back unless specifically asked.

No, I don't even know who to contact to set up the hospital tour. I've scoured the website and can't find any information about hospital tours. 

When I had DD I only saw the anesthesiologist once and that was after asking for the epidural and having to wait for an hour to get it. This was at a different hospital though. If my doctor insists on monitoring the whole time can I refuse or only agree to some of the time? I think it would be more beneficial to me/my labor to be able to move around as I pleased. With DD I could only get up to use the bathroom (before getting the epidural of course). 

call the hospital and ask the concierge . They should be able to give you a contact. Also ask your OB office e because if they deliver at that hospital they should have info as well.

[brittneysandra]

I love this thread! I've already learned so much
Ive asking a lot of questions already and done a lot of research in the last few days!
Im going to meet the midwives at my hospital tomorrow and hopefully get some of my more specific questions answered there!

[Ee]

Feb 9, 2015 23:08:03 GMT -5 CTri17 said:

CTri17,brittneysandra,lgsdesigner,cbrandt1,rels09,Ee,beeorange,@deziniki,grapefruits,Starbuck128,mpiemont,hotcoconuts82,chailife34,smilz4782,fikmama1986, I don't think the quick tags got everyone, but if you have ideas for things you would like to discuss go ahead and put them in the thread and I'll compile a list

another one I think we should talk about is CPD (cephalo pelvic disproportion)

Topic idea:

Compile a reference list of recommended natural birth reading materials

[brittneysandra]

Feb 10, 2015 9:26:49 GMT -5 Ee said:

Feb 9, 2015 23:08:03 GMT -5 CTri17 said:

CTri17,brittneysandra,lgsdesigner,cbrandt1,rels09,Ee,beeorange,@deziniki,grapefruits,Starbuck128,mpiemont,hotcoconuts82,chailife34,smilz4782,fikmama1986, I don't think the quick tags got everyone, but if you have ideas for things you would like to discuss go ahead and put them in the thread and I'll compile a list

another one I think we should talk about is CPD (cephalo pelvic disproportion)

Topic idea:

Compile a reference list of recommended natural birth reading materials

I think to add to this maybe a list of documentaries, videos, or websites with some
....Im a visual learner, not as much of a reader 

[cbrandt1]

This is is an email my doula sent to me with recs on what to read and watch. Haven't done it yet, but it's on my list!


Here is some info for you to check out while you wait for this little one to be born:

First of all: Do you know about Birth Without Fear? go to Birth Without Fear - Empowering Women to Make Informed Choices About Pregnancy and Birth and read as many birth stories as you can!!!! These are important to give you an idea of how things might go for you and what techniques you may want to incorporate that you have read about.

Also, you can read in your free time by going to Evidence Based Birth - Evidence Based Birth. This site is INVALUABLE! if there are any scenarios on there that you have had questions about, you can read the evidence and make your own decision about how you will proceed in that situation.

You Tube Videos to prepare you:

1.. This video is great for you and your husband to watch together: Understanding labour pain

2. And this one: Ways to Labor- What are the Best Labor Positions for Giving Birth

[cbrandt1]

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Here are the YouTube links

[CTri17]

You should be able do do intermittent monitoring in most cases and you shoukd be able to be standing for that, you do not HAVE to be in bed, it is easier fkr them, but who cares :-)

[smilz4782]

CPD= not really hip related but related to the shape of your pelvic opening. So if it's more masculine or androgynous a head might not fit, but the female shape is designed to open and fit baby heads through... In my understanding of anatomy.

www.yourparenting.co.za/pregnancy/birth/labour/different-pelvic-shapes

[smilz4782]

Also I will AW here...
I found out yesterday my "old" birth center CAN do VBAC and have a VBAC consult in a week!!
Woohoo!!

[illogicaltuvok]

Please introduce yourself, any previous births/experiences you want to share.
I'm a third time mom. I plan on having s med free birth. With my first I had an epidural and freaked out and told them to turn it off ( which they were not to thrilled about). By the time the effect wore off I was already pushing.
With my second I was able to do it med free, which was scary, painful, but so rewarding when I delivers my girl.
How many weeks are you?
I am 26 weeks
What have you done so far in your prep for a med-free birth?
Get my yoga ball out and reading up on breathing technique.
What do you WANT to do?
Med free just like I did last time.

Any Questions/Comments?[/quote]

[hotcoconuts82]

Can I bring a sign to hang on my room door that says, "don't ask me about the epidural!". I swear somebody asked me if I was ready for the epidural every 5 minutes. Which didn't help me avoid it.

[CTri17]

Feb 10, 2015 16:36:39 GMT -5 hotcoconuts82 said:

Can I bring a sign to hang on my room door that says, "don't ask me about the epidural!". I swear somebody asked me if I was ready for the epidural every 5 minutes. Which didn't help me avoid it.

that is annoying. I'd def do a sign! or stickers

[robotpcr]

Feb 10, 2015 16:39:55 GMT -5 CTri17 said:

Feb 10, 2015 16:36:39 GMT -5 hotcoconuts82 said:

Can I bring a sign to hang on my room door that says, "don't ask me about the epidural!". I swear somebody asked me if I was ready for the epidural every 5 minutes. Which didn't help me avoid it.

that is annoying. I'd def do a sign! or stickers

I think that's what DH will be for.  To tell them to stop and not come back.

[yianna]

Please introduce yourself, any previous births/experiences you want to share.

I'm a TTM, both my sons were born without any medical pain management. My first, I was in labor at work, in complete denial. My water broke, at home, in bed, around 10pm, and he was born at 4:52am the following morning. I pushed for 30 minutes and he was out! I did tear badly with him. My second, I went in labor around 5pm, was admitted at 9pm, and my labor stalled out at midnight (I had polyhydraminos so he couldn't put pressure on my cervix to get things going so to speak). They broke my water around 8:15am, he was born at 10:30 am, after 10 minutes of pushing and NO real tearing (I needed one stitch). I did not have pain medication for him either.


How many weeks are you? 27w3d

What have you done so far in your prep for a med-free birth? Well, I've done it twice, so I figure I know what I'm in for, but for my first, I read the Bradley Method and took the hospital birth class. For my second, I read Ina May's Guide to Childbirth. This is an AMAZING read. I highly recommend. One thing I can tell you is that, med-free birth is a ton of mind over matter. If you know that pain meds are not an option and that you can't tense up during contractions and actually believe you can do it, and have others tell you that, it really does help.


What do you WANT to do? I am giving birth at a hospital, the same hospital as my boys. My goal this time is to assist in delivery, so when she's mostly out, to reach down and grab her. Otherwise, I just want things to go well I'm not picky!!

[yianna]

Feb 10, 2015 16:36:39 GMT -5 hotcoconuts82 said:

Can I bring a sign to hang on my room door that says, "don't ask me about the epidural!". I swear somebody asked me if I was ready for the epidural every 5 minutes. Which didn't help me avoid it.

I just told my nurses, I don't want pain medication, so please do not offer it to me. 

they listened.

try that?