WuW 7/27/16

[elliecat17]

Welcome to the Dark Side CAL What’s Up Wednesday!



Your rotating weekly check in leaders:

@eliida muscari cali elliecat17

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QOTW: What is something from your bucket list that you could do this year?

[MissSally]

CALR: I've been having + OPKs for over a week now. I'm over it. September cannot come fast enough. Going to the RE is going to make me feel so much better. I need answers.

NCLR: Just counting down to the beach. Three weeks. I have so much work to do between now and then....

QOTW: I don't really know...? I was looking into deep sea fishing with H at the beach. But I have horrible motion sickness so I probably will send my dad with him instead.

[cali]

elliecat17, thanks for the check in. How are you?

MissSally, I'm glad you're seeing an RE. I hope you get some answers.

AFM, today is my last day on BCP. Yay! Baseline for IVF is Monday and stims start Tuesday. I'm really just ready to get started.

QOTW: Almost everything on my bucket list requires money which we are lacking right now, so probably won't check much off this year.

[MissSally]

cali yay for getting everything started! So exciting!

[elliecat17]

cali I'm doing alright. I've been bumming lately.

Since the Clomid cycle didn't work we are taking a few months off before the next. We are also very busy with prepping for our 10-11 month long house guest. But I've just been feeling overwhelmed and down since Sunday.

***OPP Warning***

I was singing at mass and I looked down from the choir loft and it just hit me that H and I have been together for 4 years and have been actively trying for 2 and we just seem further away from kids then ever before. It doesn't help that there are 2 women very pregnant right now and 3 newborns in the church. I hate that I feel sorry for myself but hey there it is.

I don't know what our next step is, other then waiting a cycle or 2 and trying again with Clomid. I'm thinking about asking about other forms of progesterone though, becuase I had spotting from 10dpo last month and I take a total of 600mg of progesterone starting at 3dpo and my level at cd21 was 95.9.

NCALR: I am whisking H off to camp and see the packers this weekend. Should be a nice break from crazy cleaning!

QOTW: I will just be working toward my goal of visiting as many national parks as possible. On our trip to H's family reunion I plan to see at least one or 2. But that's all we can afford.

[cali]

((hugs)) elliecat17, I'm sorry you're struggling. I completely understand, all of this can be so hard. I forget, are you seeing an RE. How did you respond to Clomid? About the progesterone, I would definitely ask to switch to a suppository over an oral, especially with the spotting. From what I've learned, suppositories can be more effective because they are absorbed directly by the uterus instead of going through the GI system. However, just an fyi, because of this the suppository won't show up in your blood work the way an oral pill will.

[elliecat17]

I have an RE who is an idiot. I haven't seen him in months since he missed our ectopic because he wouldn't perform a pelvic exam, doesn't believe in early ultrasounds, and brushed off my pain. I've been working with my midwife and she's been working with other OBs and an RE who's down state who are giving her info. I responded well (i guess). No side affects other then a little dizziness, and pain during ovulation. They did no other monitoring.

[MissSally]

elliecat17 all the ((hugs)). I'm sorry clomid was unsuccessful. Its great that you didn't have many side effects. Mine were insane. I don't have any advice about the progesterone because I haven't gotten to take mine yet! My RE wanted me to wait to take it until I got a BFP.
I'm sorry about all the pregnant people and newborns. There are a ton at my church, too. I tear up every time we go. Not my proudest moments.

[AmazingTulip]

Well today was interesting.

I had my HSG and my tubes are open. But the doctor was concerned about my bicornuate uterus so he wanted an ultrasound - turns out my uterus is a septate uterus, not a bicornuate. For over 10 years I've been told my uterus is bicornuate so I'm all like WTF. He recommended surgery given my second trimester loss history so I've got a lot of things to think about.

Also, I'm having trouble convincing DH to get a sperm analysis. What kind of vitamins can I load him up with just for fun?

[cali]

AmazingTulip, wow, that is crazy and definitely a lot to think about. As for YH, my RE recommended for MH Concept.ionXR from Theralo.gix and also 200 mg of CoQ10 daily and so far his numbers have always been good.

[AmazingTulip]

Thanks cali. I looked that supplement up online - it seems kind of expensive - what's in there that's so special?

Given what I learned today, I'm trying to decide if I should TTC this month or wait until after the septum resection. Should I even get the septum resection? It seems to me that there's something else going on in addition to this - a septum may be responsible for my losses, but not why I haven't been able to get pregnant in the last year. I get more blood work in a couple weeks so hopefully that provides some more answers.

[AmazingTulip]

elliecat17, sorry you didn't have any luck with the Clomid.

What national parks are you going to visit? I went to Dry Tortugas National Park this year and that was AMAZING

[birch113]

MissSally ugh, that is so frustrating! I hope September comes quickly for you and that the RE can make a good plan for you.

cali woohoo for your last BCP!!

elliecat17 (((hugs))) I'm so sorry Clomid didn't work this cycle. I would definitely ask about switching to progesterone suppositories. I was just listening to a really interesting podcast that discussed the different types of progesterone, and it sounds like supps are better.

AmazingTulip wow that sounds like quite a shock! As for vitamins, my RE recommends NeoCoQ10 for both of us. I highly recommend you check out the Beat Infertility podcast Bonus Episode 36 "Uterine Abnormalities". The host has an RE on and they discuss septums. It was incredibly informative. If you like the show, there are also earlier episodes covering people's unique IF journeys, and there are a few including uterine septums. (((Hugs)))

AFM, this is Day 4 of stims. I was supposed to add Ganirelix tonight, but my follicles weren't quite big enough yet. I go back Friday and hopefully things will be "popping" as my RE predicted.

[cali]

AmazingTulip, yeah, it is expensive bit it is a 3 month supply that you get. I'm not sure exactly of everything in it, just that's it's a bunch of vitamins that have been shown to improve sperm structure and function.

@eliida, oh, I am sooo happy your insurance covered the testing! What a relief! Good luck with the new OB!

[cali]

birch113, FX things start "popping" :-)

[muscari]

Hey ladies! I'm keeping my online time to a minimum right now to keep myself from going down the rabbit hole in this dreaded 2ww after our first IVF attempt.. but did want to pop in briefly!

MissSally, Oh I'm so frustrated for you that your cycles are so messed up still. I hope your RE appt will give you some answers. But first you got a lovely beach trip to look forward to!

cali, yay for chucking the BCP! And omgosh August is like right around the corner.. I'm excited for you to get this party started. You got this! Are you wrapping up summer school?

elliecat17, *hugs* I'm sorry things are rough. It's hard to suddenly realize how long you've been at it and all you got to show for it is heart ache and grief. While all around you life just seems to continue happily ever after. Much love

AmazingTulip, Oh wow, that must have been quite a bit of a shock, suddenly getting such a different dx! From what I remember, over at 3T/IF there's several women who have had surgery to correct a septum, you could perhaps post there and ask for some insights/advice/thoughts? Also, I wanne be in that pic you posted like right now! Wow, so beautiful.

Aww birch113, I'm sorry your ovaries aren't with the program yet. Hopefully with your next appointment they'll show some proper growth. My first two monitoring apt (after 10 and 14 days of stimms) were really disappointing but then they finally got the message and started to catch up. I guess I'm the slowest of slow responders lol.

@eliida, I hope the new OB will be a nice match with you, shame about having to redo all the standard exams tho. And oh wow what a stressful situation that must have been, getting that bill suddenly. Glad insurance decided to pick it up after all as they should have!

[muscari]

AFM, I'm 9dp3dt and hanging in there. "Beta" is scheduled for Monday - or well, rather, I get to pee over a hospital-supplied pee stick LOL as they don't do betas here heh. I am not going to test early. Mostly doing okay though occasionally freaking out ;-) which is why I took a step back from TCF for the time being and am limiting my online time.

[MissSally]

Jul 28, 2016 3:21:58 GMT -5 muscari said:

AFM, I'm 9dp3dt and hanging in there. "Beta" is scheduled for Monday - or well, rather, I get to pee over a hospital-supplied pee stick LOL as they don't do betas here heh. I am not going to test early. Mostly doing okay though occasionally freaking out ;-) which is why I took a step back from TCF for the time being and am limiting my online time.

Yay! I'm so excited for you! Keeping all the fingers crossed!!!!

[shandorfml2]

cali, so exciting!!

elliecat17, so sorry the clomid didn't work, and sorry your RE is an asshat.
For those of you who know something about progesterone...are the common treatments for low P/Short LP progesterone supplements or clomid? Any other options? I am using progess plus essential oil. I am seeing OB next month, I'm assuming I'll get some blood work to see what my baseline is and then go from there.

birch113, Im sending big "popping" vibes
muscari, crossing everything for you!

[elliecat17]

Progesterone not clomid for a short LP. Also what essential oil are you using? Also what is progress?

[shandorfml2]

Jul 28, 2016 19:44:05 GMT -5 elliecat17 said:

Progesterone not clomid for a short LP. Also what essential oil are you using? Also what is progress?

whoops, it's Progessence Plus by young living. 

[birch113]

@eliida so sorry for the insurance scare. I'm sorry you had to deal with that.

muscari GL on Monday!!Thanks for reminding me that there's still time for my ovaries to get it together. 😉

shandorfml2 I don't have any answers for your progesterone question. I'm sorry.

[iheartbroccoli]

CALR: AF arrived yesterday, right on schedule. Going to try vaginal temping this cycle.

NCALR: I just got back from a business trip to Dallas. I didn't get much time to explore, but it I got a lot of Tex-mex and an ornament (I collect them from everywhere I go), so I'm happy. Lol.

QOTW: One of my goals is to visit every state, and in the fall we're going to Hawaii. This will be my first time there, I'm so excited!

[iheartbroccoli]

MissSally Hugs. So frustrating, our bodies suck sometimes.

cali Yay for taking your last BCP! Fingers crossed for you!!

elliecat17 Big hugs. I'm so sorry the Clomid cycle didn't work. I've had those realizations too, and they are painful. Hugs.

AmazingTulip Hugs. I am sorry you've been misdiagnosed this entire time, that must be incredibly frustrating!

birch113, Fingers crossed Friday's appointment goes well!

@eliida Good luck with the new OB. Insurance sucks, but I'm glad they ended up covering the testing!

muscari Hugs. I totally get it. I have everything crossed for you!

[cali]

shandorfml2, progesterone is the only thing I know of for a short LP/low progesterone. Are you seeing an RE? Have you had your progesterone levels checked at 7dpo yet?

[birch113]

Monitoring went well! My follicles are growing! I have some med changes tonight, and monitoring again on Sunday.

[birch113]

iheartbroccoli mmmm Tex Mex! Are you moving to vaginal temping for more accuracy?

[MissSally]

Jul 28, 2016 22:32:25 GMT -5 iheartbroccoli said:

CALR: AF arrived yesterday, right on schedule. Going to try vaginal temping this cycle.

NCALR: I just got back from a business trip to Dallas. I didn't get much time to explore, but it I got a lot of Tex-mex and an ornament (I collect them from everywhere I go), so I'm happy. Lol.

QOTW: One of my goals is to visit every state, and in the fall we're going to Hawaii. This will be my first time there, I'm so excited!

I collect ornaments wherever I go also!! So fun

[iheartbroccoli]

Jul 29, 2016 7:24:37 GMT -5 birch113 said:

iheartbroccoli mmmm Tex Mex! Are you moving to vaginal temping for more accuracy?

Yep! My temps seem to be all over the place, and I've found more often than not I drink water before I remember to temp when I get up.

[shandorfml2]

Jul 29, 2016 5:42:37 GMT -5 cali said:

shandorfml2 , progesterone is the only thing I know of for a short LP/low progesterone. Are you seeing an RE? Have you had your progesterone levels checked at 7dpo yet?

No, not seeing RE. Just starting the process. See my regular OB next week. The nearest RE is three hours away. Hopefully my OB will at least get some preliminary BW