Post by gratefulgirl on Aug 12, 2016 22:23:23 GMT -5
bocaburger - I think the demand for milk issues can get better after it comes in, but given that letdown does take a small amount of time some babies can still get angry. However once she feels full because your milk is in and you learn her cues or put them on a routine you can feed her before she is frustrated. So yeah, a solution will come. Hopefully soon.
My milk is not yet in and my girlie is struggling too.
bocaburger what helped me for LO when he was screaming and that caused latching issues was to change nursing positions to the laid back hold. That way gravity helped and he wasn't getting so frantic.
steph wow, that IS a lot of milk production! I donated milk with DD and it did require some steps (e.g. getting a blood test, filling out forms), but I was happy to do it. I think I ended up donating around 200 oz.
My milk has officially come in enough today and LO is five days old. Yesterday, he had the issues with screaming and latching, as well as much cluster feeding...not sure if it was a supply issue he was trying to remedy by nursing or what. In ten minutes of pumping yesterday, I got 20 ml, whereas today, he is nursing like 20 minute stretches and I can hear him swallowing milk the whole time.
I'm having some serious oversupply issues. Im wondering if I should just start pumping and storing now but I'm worried that'll make it even worse.
I was told that pumping exacerbates oversupply. So I immediately stopped pumping when I learned that with DS2 and my supply regulated nicely. This time, I haven't pumped at all yet, and I am noticing a marked decrease in problematic oversupply/OALD.
Second this. You can pump for maybe 30 seconds if you need to make it easier to latch, but I would avoid pumping as it can create a misbalance of fore and hind milk and it just creates more milk.
bocaburger I think having a c-section can delay your milk a bit, but it should get a bit easier once it comes in. It still might not be fast enough to keep them happy all the time, but it does get a bit easier.
Post by spicysalmonroll on Aug 13, 2016 1:30:05 GMT -5
bocaburger I think the big difference for me was with the colostrum he nursed for 15-30 minutes and then once the milk came in he only nurses for 4-7 minutes. It freaked me out at first thinking he wasn't getting enough but his weight gain sure says otherwise. Sometimes it doesn't even empty the boob so I use that side again the next time to make sure he's getting the hindmilk. I've read milk is good at room temp for 4 hours, I can't imagine colostrum is that different.
spicysalmonroll One of my NICU nurses specifically said colostrum can be left at room temp for four hours. It's interesting how babies can become so much more efficient with nursing!
Post by dorkusmalorkus on Aug 13, 2016 3:26:38 GMT -5
For those of you pumping/supplementing, do you have any bottle recommendations? DD2 used to be a great latcher & would sometimes be fine without a nipple shield, but she seems to have lost that, and is starting to get too lazy to latch on to the shield properly. We used Tommy Tippee with our other 2, but even the slow flow nipple on those seems too leaky.
Post by gratefulgirl on Aug 13, 2016 10:48:15 GMT -5
So my milk is in. Yay, DD3 will not starve.
It is in with a vengeance (what did DD3 and I ever do to it?!). My OALD bugs DD3. Laid back helps but she falls right asleep. I let down repeatedly so I can't sit up after first letdown. Also my oversupply is fierce.
Good thing the NP we see for intake on Monday at the pedi is an LC!
Is there such a thing as a weirdo baby who doesn't like being nursed to sleep?
mine falls asleep and then makes hilarious faces when I sit him up to burp him. He always gives this face like "um I'm sleeping - why the hell are you wacking me on the back?!"
I still have to figure her out I guess. DD1 peacefully nursed to sleep until about a year old. It was so easy! This one finishes eating and stares at me wide awake. Does not compute! Lol
Post by gratefulgirl on Aug 15, 2016 12:20:54 GMT -5
...and I appear to have a clog. DD3 did a 5 hour stretch from 4 until 9 (hey kid, let's try 11-4!) and that did it. Ugh. It's at an angle that is going to be a pain to point her chin toward, too.
Anyone have extreme cluster feeding? At one week old, DS has had a couple of 2-3 hour sessions going back and forth. He will fall asleep and right when I put him down, he cries and gives hunger cues. Both times we have him bottles that he ended up finishing then was finally able to sleep. I think he must be exhausted being awake so long and since he takes the bottle, it isn't just comfort feeding, right?
...and I appear to have a clog. DD3 did a 5 hour stretch from 4 until 9 (hey kid, let's try 11-4!) and that did it. Ugh. It's at an angle that is going to be a pain to point her chin toward, too.
Was she awake the entire time? Hope the clog goes away!
Anyone have extreme cluster feeding? At one week old, DS has had a couple of 2-3 hour sessions going back and forth. He will fall asleep and right when I put him down, he cries and gives hunger cues. Both times we have him bottles that he ended up finishing then was finally able to sleep. I think he must be exhausted being awake so long and since he takes the bottle, it isn't just comfort feeding, right?
DD1 and DD3 did this. DD1 literally shot up the growth chart in both height and weight after birth (I am tiny and DH is tall so she had to fulfill her genetic destiny after being confined to my body). DD3 is either taking after DD1 or just trying to get back to birth weight.
In DD1's case she also may have had her tongue and lip ties contributing. DD3 is a tiny bit tied, not nearly so bad. So it may be ties, may not.
...and I appear to have a clog. DD3 did a 5 hour stretch from 4 until 9 (hey kid, let's try 11-4!) and that did it. Ugh. It's at an angle that is going to be a pain to point her chin toward, too.
Was she awake the entire time? Hope the clog goes away!
I was awake until about 4. She slept 5 hours after that. Great, just poorly timed.
Anyone have extreme cluster feeding? At one week old, DS has had a couple of 2-3 hour sessions going back and forth. He will fall asleep and right when I put him down, he cries and gives hunger cues. Both times we have him bottles that he ended up finishing then was finally able to sleep. I think he must be exhausted being awake so long and since he takes the bottle, it isn't just comfort feeding, right?
DD1 and DD3 did this. DD1 literally shot up the growth chart in both height and weight after birth (I am tiny and DH is tall so she had to fulfill her genetic destiny after being confined to my body). DD3 is either taking after DD1 or just trying to get back to birth weight.
In DD1's case she also may have had her tongue and lip ties contributing. DD3 is a tiny bit tied, not nearly so bad. So it may be ties, may not.
Sigh, DD did go from 10th to 90th percentile in weight so I guess DS is headed that way too. I forgot about those days and how tiring they were.
Post by spicysalmonroll on Aug 15, 2016 14:06:33 GMT -5
shanny my little one is a pig. When I tell people he eats every 90 minutes day and night they always say "growth spurt or cluster feeding- it'll pass in a day". And I'm like...he's been doing it since he was born for 3 weeks!! It's so tiring. Lol
DD tends to fall asleep while eating, so her feedings are short but sometimes close together. At night I feed her, change her diaper, then try to feed her some more but during the day if she eats for 10 minutes out of every 90, I just roll with it. TBT it's easier to keep the big kids busy during a handful of 10 minute feedings than one 30 minute one
I'm engorged and don't know what to do. I tried hand expressing a little and it didn't help. I'm afraid to pump and make the problem worse, but I feel like I have boulders hanging from my chest and LO is definitely not pleased. It takes 30+ min to get him to latch and it's soo frustrating. For both of us.
Can you get in the shower, @suesposa? A hot shower on the chest for a good 5-10 minutes with massage is a good way to get past the painful coconut stage. You can massage as well to make it easier to get kiddo to latch.
I'm having some serious oversupply issues. Im wondering if I should just start pumping and storing now but I'm worried that'll make it even worse.
I was told that pumping exacerbates oversupply. So I immediately stopped pumping when I learned that with DS2 and my supply regulated nicely. This time, I haven't pumped at all yet, and I am noticing a marked decrease in problematic oversupply/OALD.
I was surprised that the hospital LCs told me DEFINITELY don't pump at all for the first 2-3 weeks because it causes problems with oversupply.
When I had DD1, they had me pump 10 minutes after every time that she fed. It was exhausting. So far this time I haven't pumped and supply seems to be fine. I transitioned from colostrum to milk on day three.
I was told that pumping exacerbates oversupply. So I immediately stopped pumping when I learned that with DS2 and my supply regulated nicely. This time, I haven't pumped at all yet, and I am noticing a marked decrease in problematic oversupply/OALD.
I was surprised that the hospital LCs told me DEFINITELY don't pump at all for the first 2-3 weeks because it causes problems with oversupply.
When I had DD1, they had me pump 10 minutes after every time that she fed. It was exhausting. So far this time I haven't pumped and supply seems to be fine. I transitioned from colostrum to milk on day three.
I asked the doc today about this. He said if I wanted I could wait for it to regulate or I could pump and start storing or donate. He said normally they said to wait at least 2-3 weeks before pumping to make sure the baby is eating and latching okay, but since he's gained a good amount of weight already I'm in the clear. I still haven't decided what I want to do. I mean, I probably should pump and build a supply but I'm lazy lol.
Post by hannahbear on Aug 15, 2016 16:03:18 GMT -5
I am having such a hard time. I wish I could figure out what was different between a good feeding and a bad one. Honestly it seems totally random - sometimes I can bf and sometimes it just won't happen. It's so incredibly frustrating
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