TTMA Church Offerings

[McBenny]

I never had a church having an issue paying their light bill. Like I don't think that is something I need to worry with at all.

[Deleted]

We no longer regularly attend, but when we do, I usually toss a few dollars in the basket. Ironically, the constant asking for money to the point where our church was sending us guilt letters about not contributing enough, is what pushed us away from the church in the first place. For proper context, during this time we had one 12 year old car on its very last legs and could barely afford groceries.

[shellbell]

Aug 29, 2016 13:25:31 GMT -5 McBenny said:

I never had a church having an issue paying their light bill. Like I don't think that is something I need to worry with at all.

Totally disagree. Just because your churches haven't experienced this doesn't mean it's not a concern for some churches. A lot of churches have huge bills -- mortgages, utilities, etc.

[shellbell]

I would not be able to attend a church that required a 10% tithe or one that constantly asked for money.

[McBenny]

Aug 29, 2016 13:36:26 GMT -5 shellbell said:

Aug 29, 2016 13:25:31 GMT -5 McBenny said:

I never had a church having an issue paying their light bill. Like I don't think that is something I need to worry with at all.

Totally disagree. Just because your churches haven't experienced this doesn't mean it's not a concern for some churches. A lot of churches have huge bills -- mortgages, utilities, etc.

That is not what I said.

What I said was I don't feel that is something that I should have to concern myself with as an attendee. Like I don't need to add worrying about church having their lights on in addition to al the other shit I deal with in life. Concern myself with as in worry.

[McBenny]

Aug 29, 2016 13:38:03 GMT -5 @jboogie said:

Aug 29, 2016 13:25:31 GMT -5 McBenny said:

I never had a church having an issue paying their light bill. Like I don't think that is something I need to worry with at all.

Aren't you catholic? Many have had to close in the US, but that could be regional.

Yes, none have closed in the area I have lived in but it was a very Catholic area and very flushed.

[shellbell]

Aug 29, 2016 14:05:34 GMT -5 McBenny said:

Aug 29, 2016 13:36:26 GMT -5 shellbell said:

Totally disagree. Just because your churches haven't experienced this doesn't mean it's not a concern for some churches. A lot of churches have huge bills -- mortgages, utilities, etc.

That is not what I said.

What I said was I don't feel that is something that I should have to concern myself with as an attendee. Like I don't need to add worrying about church having their lights on in addition to al the other shit I deal with in life. Concern myself with as in worry.

I guess if I liked a church enough, it is something I concern myself with. I'm picky about churches, and I don't want to have to be church shopping again.

[McBenny]

Aug 29, 2016 14:10:25 GMT -5 rvasc said:

Aug 29, 2016 14:05:34 GMT -5 McBenny said:

That is not what I said.

What I said was I don't feel that is something that I should have to concern myself with as an attendee. Like I don't need to add worrying about church having their lights on in addition to al the other shit I deal with in life. Concern myself with as in worry.

This is a genuine question, but if it's not the job of the members to be sure the bills are paid, whose job is it?

If you just go sporadically as a visitor, this does not apply.

As I previously stated in all my life I have never attended a church that brought up issues with paying their bills with the congregation.

[McBenny]

The church budgets and weekly offerings are regularly posted in the newsletter and they have their bills covered and then some.

[McBenny]

I mean you are more than welcome to worry about your church's light bill. I don't begrudge anyone that.

[Deleted]

I don't know if my stance is biblically based actually but I give what I can when I can. 10% is my goal but I also give my time. I teach a Sunday school class and try to help how I can to help the church grow how I can.

Eta I couldn't have possibly said "how I can" any more lol

[McBenny]

Aug 29, 2016 15:44:53 GMT -5 rvasc said:

Aug 29, 2016 14:27:57 GMT -5 McBenny said:

The church budgets and weekly offerings are regularly posted in the newsletter and they have their bills covered and then some.

I promise I'm releasing it after this.

Your churches, like mine, actually, don't have to talk about the bills because it's not a problem. Their budgets are covered because people are highly committed and their commitment is reflected in their financial giving, which could be any amount depending on their resources.

The only way churches survive is because their members commit to covering the costs of operating a church. Brux asked what an appropriate gift is, and I answered with information about how much it costs to operate a church, because when I am making a financial commitment to an institution, I'd like to know something about how they use their money, including things like how much their bills are.

I don't know why you have an attitude with my response. It was my feelings on the topic and my experience and I even stated so before I answered.

I never attended a little teeny church that passed the plate for lght bills. period. Maybe that's common in some areas or religions.

So again Brux asked a question and I answered an explained my answer. I don't know why you are fucking with me about my feelings.

[McBenny]

Aug 29, 2016 15:44:53 GMT -5 rvasc said:

Aug 29, 2016 14:27:57 GMT -5 McBenny said:

The church budgets and weekly offerings are regularly posted in the newsletter and they have their bills covered and then some.

I promise I'm releasing it after this.

Your churches, like mine, actually, don't have to talk about the bills because it's not a problem. Their budgets are covered because people are highly committed and their commitment is reflected in their financial giving, which could be any amount depending on their resources.

The only way churches survive is because their members commit to covering the costs of operating a church. Brux asked what an appropriate gift is, and I answered with information about how much it costs to operate a church, because when I am making a financial commitment to an institution, I'd like to know something about how they use their money, including things like how much their bills are.

Also as I clearly stated before the fucking guideline I posted came from the church.

I also clearly stated there's a posted budget with expenses and weekly collections clearly posted on newsletter so yeah that's knowing how much their bills are which is not the same as having to collect specifically to keep lights on.

[McBenny]

Why don't you come up with what I can and cannot comment on. I'm so sick of this shit around this bitch. Everyone's answers are based on life experience or opinion. I explain mine and still get a bitch trying to argue with me about my fucking feelings on the matter.

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[Cherhorowitz]

Aug 29, 2016 13:38:03 GMT -5 @jboogie said:

Aug 29, 2016 13:25:31 GMT -5 McBenny said:

I never had a church having an issue paying their light bill. Like I don't think that is something I need to worry with at all.

Aren't you catholic? Many have had to close in the US, but that could be regional.

Yes, a lot of Catholic churches I grew up around have had to close, as well as their schools, which brings up additional problems. So, it's not just your area, it's definitely an issue in the Northeast too.

[McBenny]

So yeah cause I have to repeat myself often before it sticks, no church closures in my area.

[Cherhorowitz]

Aug 29, 2016 18:30:04 GMT -5 @jboogie said:

Aug 29, 2016 17:31:00 GMT -5 Cherhorowitz said:

Yes, a lot of Catholic churches I grew up around have had to close, as well as their schools, which brings up additional problems. So, it's not just your area, it's definitely an issue in the Northeast too.

Oh shit, I no longer live in the NE and haven't for a while. I still think of myself that way though. Hee hee.

Oh no, I was saying if it was an issue where you are in the south, it's an issue around me too. I wish you were still in the Northeast.

[McBenny]

The peach was me patting my ass at yous

[plorange]

I would ask someone at church for direction. I think 10% is the biblical tithe, but often people use that as something to work up to. Of the two recent churches I regularly attended, one which was had a large number of college students did not expect tithing from those with credit card debt. The church we attend now does not pass a plate, mostly because it is awkward for those visiting and the expectation is that non-regulars should not contribute. Our church finances have been openly posted on our bulletin and discussed in separate meeting with those who care to know more information.

[plorange]

If you are interest in giving regularly, I would suggest doing a budget and giving automatically what you can so you don't have to worry about it when the plate is passed. Reassess late and adjust accordingly.