Last night I changed LOs diaper when she was up to nurse at 130 am, she fussed more than usual but fell asleep about 10 minutes later then she slept until just after 7. Going to try that again tonight, maybe she really doesn't like being dirty. She is so much easier than DD1 ever was and I don't mind one MOTN feeding, it was the every 2 hours for her paci that was driving me crazy. Hoping for another good night, in general she is easy to put down, especially now that she sleeps on her belly.
My biggest issue right now is DS waking up 3x every night, and needing to be nursed back to sleep. I would really like if he went back to only waking up once. And if he is waking up constantly, I would appreciate if I didn't have to nurse him back to sleep. He is good at putting himself to sleep at bed time, but not MOTN.
As miserable as I am, probably won't start til 6 months.
I'm not sure how we will train. Gentle CIO? I've read one method where you go 5 minutes, then 10, then 15. I don't think I could let DS cry for 15 minutes. That sounds awful.
We bought the book Happy Sleeper with the intention of sleep training at 5 months with the Sleep Wave (5 minute checks) when we transitioned to the crib. However, S is already sleeping in his crib after our AC crapped out this week and he's been doing really well. It's helpful that he's figured out how to flip to his belly to sleep. Kid is rolling like a madman. The past few nights he's been waking up 3x a night. We have been breaking him of nursing to sleep by me feeding him and DH coming in and putting him down. We are still working on the putting him down awake but drowsy, but so far S is doing really well. He never takes longer than 10 minutes to go back to sleep when he wakes up MOTN. I am hoping in the next month or so he will drop a night feeding (or 2).
We won't do CIO. No judgement, it's just not for us. With DS1 we started having DH pick him up if he fussed and it turned into full on crying. If DH couldn't console him then I would feed him. That method pushed his MOTN feedings later and later until they were gone. We put him down drowsy but awake and he slowly learned to fall asleep on his own. The sound machine and paci were a big help.
Does anyone know of a sound machine that doesn't turn off at a certain time increment? We use a sleep sheep for naps but it turns off at 45 minutes and M always wakes up then, if not before. I want a magical 1-2 hour nap!
We won't do CIO. No judgement, it's just not for us. With DS1 we started having DH pick him up if he fussed and it turned into full on crying. If DH couldn't console him then I would feed him. That method pushed his MOTN feedings later and later until they were gone. We put him down drowsy but awake and he slowly learned to fall asleep on his own. The sound machine and paci were a big help.
Does anyone know of a sound machine that doesn't turn off at a certain time increment? We use a sleep sheep for naps but it turns off at 45 minutes and M always wakes up then, if not before. I want a magical 1-2 hour nap!
I have the same issue with the sleep sheep! I have a friend with a kid who is now 2, and sometimes I watch him for her. She keeps an old ipod with small speakers next to the crib, problem solved. She has white noise stuff on there ("static", rain, ocean, etc) and it just keeps going until you turn it off. I want to try it.
We have this one.... Except its Orange, I think this might be the new version. It has a timer that you can turn on if you want otherwise it always stays on. We just hook it on the corner of the crib on the mesh bumper. We use it all night every night
And now I want one for DS. We have the "adult" version thats like $15...they had it in the maternity ward when I had DS and I loved it so much we bought one. I should just put this in the baby room, why didn't I think of that?!
We tried gentle CIO with DD, and she became hysterical within a minute or two the couple times we tried, so we never even got to the 5 minute mark with her. I know that is not how most kids react, but I don't think we will try it with DS because of how awful it was with DD. I am always jealous of the stories of people doing it, their kid fussing some for 2 nights then sleeping through the night.
We had a book for gentle sleep methods, and none of those worked with DD either, but DS is already a much better sleeper than DD ever was, so I may try one of those methods with him. I will have to find the book to get the name.
Does anyone have their baby still in their room and not cosleeping? The pediatrician said six months and I didn't think I would do it that long.
I am still sleeping in LO's room but he is in his crib. We have a nice sleeper sofa so I'm pretty comfortable. I suppose I could go back to my room at this point but it's easier to do the one MOTN feed and change for me.
The biggest sleep problem for us is getting LO to stay asleep once we put him down. I'll let him comfort nurse, he'll fall sleep, I'll put him in his crib, and he's wide awake. Repeat x 5. He is so exhausted but doesn't know how to fall asleep himself. We're at the point where it will take almost two hours for him to finally sleep for good. The good thing is he only wakes once MOTN.
We're sleep training this weekend. I've done my homework and I know LO is ready. This is a good long weekend for us to try since my SO will be here for bedtime. I am leaving the house and my SO will take care of LO.
Eta I'm still going to do one MOTN feeding at this point (or two if he wants, basically every four to six hours if needed).
We have this white noise machine. I bought it for myself last year actually and it's amazing. There are different fan and white noise sounds and you can adjust the volume. You can set it to turn off after an hour or so. It's also really small.
Post by craftcrazymama on Sept 2, 2016 23:34:06 GMT -5
Our biggest issue is just the short sleep stretches and constant feeding. It was hourly last night!! But usually two hourly. LO goes down pretty well and goes right back to bed after a feed but getting up so often to feed is exhausting. The hard part is that LO still feeds two hourly during the day so I can't help but feel he is actually hungry during the night too. Although he has done longer stretches sporadically so who knows.
We put LO in his crib last night, still in our room. I hoped the extra space would help. It didn't.
We won't do CIO. It's not for us. I am happy to ride out fussing and grizzling but not actual crying.
At 6 months we'll do what we did with DD. Let DH respond initially rather than me and see if he re-settles. If not, then I'll feed. Hopefully this will space him out a bit. DD slept through the night after starting this and has since (bar teething, illness or development leaps).
Does anyone have their baby still in their room and not cosleeping? The pediatrician said six months and I didn't think I would do it that long.
I did until this week. Our pediatrician also recommended we break ourselves of this by 6 months. Because I have to wake up at 5am for work if S wakes up after 4am I usually just bring him in bed with me to get extra snuggles before waking S and we leave for my mom's house at 5:45. Middle school starts way too early in my opinion.
My sister's kid just turned 7 months old. He was the shittiest sleeper in the history of shitty sleepers. She did CIO. The first night he cried for an hour and forty five minutes. I can't even imagine. But in less than a month, he's learned to self-sooth (we used to have to rock him until he was completely out, and if we woke him trying to put him down, we'd have to start all over again), and now we can put him down drowsy but awake.
I don't envision needing sleep training for my son. He sleeps from 6:30-7:00ish pm until 5:30-6:00am with usually only one wake up. He sleeps in a swaddle up at night time right now, but I just put him down for a nap in just his onesie and socks for nap time and has been asleep for a solid hour so far.
scotty138, I have a regular old box fan in his room that I turn on and leave on for as long as he needs. It produces plenty of white noise. Watch the volume on noise machines--many people turn them up too loud.
We have this one to. You can plug it in but I don't think it has a battery option. Has a built in projector with I think 3 different options. Same thing that you can set a timer if you want otherwise it will just keep going.
I think all 3 of the homemedics sleep spas have been recommended now Take your pick!
I didn't plan to do sleep training till about 6 months but I have it a shot about a week about. We have had 4 nights in a row of ds going to bed drowsy and falling asleep on his own. It has been so nice! He has a toy thing on the side of his crib like @unicornofthesea posted and it has made all the difference! I also try to do naps in the crib the same way and it has helped
Post by creepyeyeball on Sept 6, 2016 8:32:31 GMT -5
We don't usually do any training until after a year and my kids are on more solids. Before that they rely on BM for their nutrition and I'd hate to cut them off through the night when they may be growing and need those calories. Plus, as soon as I night wean I get my period back and end up pregnant, so we wait to train until I'm ready for that possibility.
To cope in the meantime we bedshare. I actually love it. My days are do insanely busy that I kind of look forward to snuggling all night. Last night he fell asleep in the RNP and by 11:00 I missed him and pulled him into bed with me. I'm crazy, I know.
As a side note - this baby had been my best sleeper during the first four months. He gave me nice long stretches. But also, my baby weight wasn't coming off like it did with the others. As soon as we hit the four month wakeful and I started nursing frequently through the night, the weight started falling off and is continuing to do so. So I guess for me, the weight loss and natural birth control are incentive enough to soldier through the exhaustion. My biology requires the frequent feedings. But I SAH, so that helps. It would be different if I worked outside of the home.
creepyeyeball staying at home with 5 kids sounds WAY more exhausting to me than my job! Don't downplay what you do!
It's just the idea that I can put a video in and lie on the couch for an hour in the middle of the day if I need to. Or I can stay in my PJs if I'm super tired. I'm busy, but I have chances to rest in ways I was unable to when I was working outside of the home and someone else structured my days. Plus I'm an introvert, so being out in the world exhausts me in ways that being at home all day with my little people doesn't. I work hard, don't get me wrong, and it's exhausting. It's just easier for me than working outside of the home because it suits my personality and needs better.
@ismellbooks not that you probably have to worry about cuz Star is a healthy big boy, but DS's pedi said one reason he may have started falling below his growth curve is because for a while he was STTN and therefore dropping a feeding. Just my two cents about dropping a MOTN feeding.
If DS ever stops being sick, we'll sleep train. I don't really know what method. I know we won't be doing Elizabeth Pantley. A friend of ours (shadesofgold ) is doing Ferber. I'm going to see how it works out for her. Very likely we'll just move his crib to the guestroom for a while and do our own modified CIO.
We're so tired. We went to bed at 8:45 last night, took turns with him, and still didn't get 8 hours in. I know being sick is the primary culprit, because he WANTS to sleep, but it's still maddening.
ETA: We know DS can sleep through the night, because he has for weeks at a stretch. I would be more reluctant to sleep train if I didn't already know that a full night is more than possible.
I've been summoned! (Hi guys.)
DS was born 4/26 and was sleeping great. He started regressing 3 weeks ago and it is just not sustainable with both of us back to work. We need to go back to just 1-2 MOTN wakings for feedings... not just slapping around, not playtime, not 2 sucks before going back to sleep. We are indeed doing the Ferber thing (laid in crib awake, check-ins getting progressively longer...) Nights 1 and 2 went great. He fussed at bedtime for the same amount of time he would have when we tried to rock him (10-15 minutes) and had only one significant wake-up other than to eat each night. Night 3 (last night) was rough. Went down no problem, but had 3 rough wake-ups within as many hours. Hoping Night 4 is better. (If it doesn't improve again within a night or two, we may call it off.)
Post by craftcrazymama on Sept 12, 2016 13:46:13 GMT -5
LO has suddenly decided that he HATES being cuddled to drowsy point/sleep and attacks like a wild cat. So for yesterday's last nap and last nights bedtime I just put him straight in the cot while settled and laid my hand on his chest and he fell asleep within minutes both times.
Fluke? Maybe. But I'll try again today and hope this will help all sleep in the long run. We're still up every two hours at this point (6 weeks in!).
Ds takes forever to go down at night now. He will roll onto his stomach and get pissed, or do the paci and get pissed. I go in and soothe him about 5-10 times now before he is finally out for the night. And now he also wakes up every hour from about 2:30am on. Do I just have to wait this phase out or is there anything I can do?
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