Post by sstwinklinglites on Oct 20, 2016 8:39:53 GMT -5
Today's the day. I texted my boss that I needed to speak to him before the day is over, and would prefer if he were alone when I do it. He's traveling our NY area, so I know he'll need to get away to talk to me.
Post by sstwinklinglites on Oct 20, 2016 8:52:49 GMT -5
He just texted me back asking what's wrong. I feel bad for him. I know this is going to be a bomb. But I can't continue to work somewhere because I feel bad for someone.
He just texted me back asking what's wrong. I feel bad for him. I know this is going to be a bomb. But I can't continue to work somewhere because I feel bad for someone.
Good luck! I'd probably be cracking open a bottle of wine before that conversation. LOL
He just texted me back asking what's wrong. I feel bad for him. I know this is going to be a bomb. But I can't continue to work somewhere because I feel bad for someone.
Good luck! I'd probably be cracking open a bottle of wine before that conversation. LOL
Lol. I need to be totally clearheaded. He'll ask is it the money? If I get you more will you stay? And I'm going to say I want double my salary, knowing full - well that will never happen, and that should be it.
Post by sstwinklinglites on Oct 20, 2016 9:22:07 GMT -5
We had the talk. He begged me to give him more time in order for him to deal with the transition of his move and new position. I agreed because apparently I'm a pushover. We haven't set a date in stone, but I'm looking at March 3rd, since it's the two year anniversary of coming back to work for them. It also happens to be a Friday.
I told him I'm not looking for another job, it's not my interest. I want to spend time with my son, have another baby, and generally be happier, because this job literally sucks the life out of me. He understands all those reasons and accepts that, just wants time to make the transition happen. WWCincy/NKY do?
Post by mrscatfarmer13 on Oct 20, 2016 9:28:20 GMT -5
hmmm.... March seems like it is really far off from what your initial intentions were. Can you renegotiate to the end of Dec. instead? If you're comfortable with it, then stick with the March, but I really think that's too long of a compromise.
hmmm.... March seems like it is really far off from what your initial intentions were. Can you renegotiate to the end of Dec. instead? If you're comfortable with it, then stick with the March, but I really think that's too long of a compromise.
I was originally staying until the end of Dec. His start in his new role isn't until Jan. 1, so it would literally be the worst thing that can happen if I'm not around and his new role start at the same time.
I'd be training someone to replace me the entire time though, so I'd be passing a lot of the work to that person anyway.
Like I said, I guess I'm a push over. I feel really bad for him specifically. We've been friends for a long time so as much as I want to say fuck you to the company, he doesn't deserve it. He's always stuck his neck out for me and helped me negotiate raises and such.
It feels really good just knowing there's an end date though. I know there's a finish line, it's not five years away, and I can live with that.
hmmm.... March seems like it is really far off from what your initial intentions were. Can you renegotiate to the end of Dec. instead? If you're comfortable with it, then stick with the March, but I really think that's too long of a compromise.
I agree. That's a long time. I think the end of the year is reasonable, then reevaluate at that time and decide if you can do another 3 months. I remember what mominthemaking14 told us when we were having these discussions with DHs job switch... Its ok to be selfish in these situations! Do what's best for you, not them.
hmmm.... March seems like it is really far off from what your initial intentions were. Can you renegotiate to the end of Dec. instead? If you're comfortable with it, then stick with the March, but I really think that's too long of a compromise.
I agree. That's a long time. I think the end of the year is reasonable, then reevaluate at that time and decide if you can do another 3 months. I remember what mominthemaking14 told us when we were having these discussions with DHs job switch... Its ok to be selfish in these situations! Do what's best for you, not them.
Yeah but, there's nothing to be selfish about. I'm not moving on to another job, I'm not using that as leverage.
sstwinklinglites that will also give you time to save up. I know March is still a little ways away, but December was a more recent plan anyway. Plus like you said, there's an end in mind now. Hopefully that helps make the last few months more bearable.
Post by babylove518 on Oct 20, 2016 10:01:48 GMT -5
I look at it as what's "selfish" is leaving the company to stay home. But I get not wanting to screw him over if he, personally, has been pretty good to you overall. Is it going to take 3 months to train for your position, or is he just giving that much time to be safe?
sstwinklinglites that will also give you time to save up. I know March is still a little ways away, but December was a more recent plan anyway. Plus like you said, there's an end in mind now. Hopefully that helps make the last few months more bearable.
I'm thinking of it as a savings opportunity, like you said. I have an end date, I'll be sharing my load with someone, and I can shore up the savings that I recently dipped into.
I was offered more money. But once I explained my reasons, he was like, so money isn't going to help anything, and he understood.
Post by mrscatfarmer13 on Oct 20, 2016 10:05:04 GMT -5
Not to get off topic, but I'm curious.
When you hear someone talk about Millennials, do you realize that they are talking about you? Eh, that's poorly phrased. Basically, I think almost all of us (maybe all) are technically Millennials (born 1980-1999), but do you actually think of yourself as being part of the Millennial group? Well that's as clear as mud, but I think you can see where I'm going. I legitimately didn't even realize how large large the Millenial span was until a few weeks ago, let alone that I was part of it. Before that, I had always thought that the Millenials were kids born in '90+. My mind was blown that every article I read about Millennials was talking about me.
When you hear someone talk about Millennials, do you realize that they are talking about you? Eh, that's poorly phrased. Basically, I think almost all of us (maybe all) are technically Millennials (born 1980-1999), but do you actually think of yourself as being part of the Millennial group? Well that's as clear as mud, but I think you can see where I'm going. I legitimately didn't even realize how large large the Millenial span was until a few weeks ago, let alone that I was part of it. Before that, I had always thought that the Millenials were kids born in '90+. My mind was blown that every article I read about Millennials was talking about me.
I did, but I was born in late '89, so not too mind blowing. Basically all of those articles irritate me to no end, so I try to avoid them.
I look at it as what's "selfish" is leaving the company to stay home. But I get not wanting to screw him over if he, personally, has been pretty good to you overall. Is it going to take 3 months to train for your position, or is he just giving that much time to be safe?
My position is really quite complex, so to gain a good understanding needs much more than two weeks of training. Training won't start until Dec. or Jan., seeing as how I'll be gone most of Nov., and he needs to actually find someone.
When you hear someone talk about Millennials, do you realize that they are talking about you? Eh, that's poorly phrased. Basically, I think almost all of us (maybe all) are technically Millennials (born 1980-1999), but do you actually think of yourself as being part of the Millennial group? Well that's as clear as mud, but I think you can see where I'm going. I legitimately didn't even realize how large large the Millenial span was until a few weeks ago, let alone that I was part of it. Before that, I had always thought that the Millenials were kids born in '90+. My mind was blown that every article I read about Millennials was talking about me.
I did, but I was born in late '89, so not too mind blowing. Basically all of those articles irritate me to no end, so I try to avoid them.
I'm early '89. I think the '80-'99 really is too large of a group to lump us all together. I tend to think the articles are written with the younger version of Millennials in mind. My younger sister was born in '96, and I can easily see some of the common assumptions about Millennials in her that I don't see in myself (or maybe they're there and I'm just being naive).
mrscatfarmer13 it just really bothers me that we're seen as entitled. Our college costs were through the roof compared to previous generations. Then many of us entered the work force in the middle of a huge recession. We're paying into tax programs that we will likely never see the benefits of. Maybe I'm showing my entitlement there, but I don't think many people look at big pictures.
mrscatfarmer13 it just really bothers me that we're seen as entitled. Our college costs were through the roof compared to previous generations. Then many of us entered the work force in the middle of a huge recession. We're paying into tax programs that we will likely never see the benefits of. Maybe I'm showing my entitlement there, but I don't think many people look at big pictures.
Tell me about it, I'm looking at 50k for a BS at a public university.
ETA: I realize this is cheap compare to many other public university's but IMO it is still ridiculous.
Post by chrispy1122 on Oct 20, 2016 10:38:11 GMT -5
I'm '84. I think people's views of millennials are a little skewed anyway. The generation includes kids that are 17-18 years old. What teenager doesn't sometimes act a little entitled?
There's definitely a big generational difference between baby boomers (who seem to be the most critical) and millenials. It is a lot more common for those in our generation to put off getting married/having families. Sometimes it is to go to college, seek advance degrees, or be more established in a career. We have the luxury to be a little more selfish longer into our adulthood when you aren't trying to support a family. I also think our generation has more dual income households, which means that both men and women are unable or unwilling to grind away at a job for endless hours just because that's what people are supposed to do.
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