TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
Hey y'all. I'm 7DPO (maybe) of natural cycle eleventy billion. I emailed my RE and asked her if she'd be willing to do a couple more IUIs before moving on to IVF and she said we could. At my last appointment she said we could try a laparoscopy before we do IVF since I never had one before. I asked her if she thought I needed it and she said no because I didn't have any pain or symptoms of endo. But after doing some research, I found that I could have endo or something without any symptoms so now I'm wondering if I should do the lap. I guess I'm kind of scrambling to do something out of fear of losing my insurance sometime in the near future. So right now I'm trying to figure out if I should do the lap, try a few more IUIs or just hold out a couple more months and go for IVF. Any opinions or input is appreciated!
Endo can def be "silent" - I'd consider the lap. My recovery last year wasn't bad (although I would not recommend the day before Thanksgiving for surgery - that was poor planning since then my whole extended family knew about my issues). But prior to surgery I never had major endo pain and only mild symptoms.
Hey y'all. I'm 7DPO (maybe) of natural cycle eleventy billion. I emailed my RE and asked her if she'd be willing to do a couple more IUIs before moving on to IVF and she said we could. At my last appointment she said we could try a laparoscopy before we do IVF since I never had one before. I asked her if she thought I needed it and she said no because I didn't have any pain or symptoms of endo. But after doing some research, I found that I could have endo or something without any symptoms so now I'm wondering if I should do the lap. I guess I'm kind of scrambling to do something out of fear of losing my insurance sometime in the near future. So right now I'm trying to figure out if I should do the lap, try a few more IUIs or just hold out a couple more months and go for IVF. Any opinions or input is appreciated!
Endo can def be "silent" - I'd consider the lap. My recovery last year wasn't bad (although I would not recommend the day before Thanksgiving for surgery - that was poor planning since then my whole extended family knew about my issues). But prior to surgery I never had major endo pain and only mild symptoms.
Thanks, I think I am leaning towards the lap. What was your recovery time like? Were you benched afterwards?
TTC #1 since August 2013 DX: Endo November 2014: Hysteroscopy, D&C June - September 2015: Clomid + Novarel + IUI #1-3 January 2017: Laparoscopy - endo removed
Post by hoosiermama76 on Nov 18, 2016 1:13:04 GMT -5
May I join? I'm 40, and I have been trying for six cycles. I'm 99% I'm getting my period in the next two days. I have a DD who is two. My DH and I only had sex twice when we TTC with our daughter. Wow, this is experience is completely different. Apparently, three years makes an big difference. I was 80 pounds heavier, with obesity related health problems, and bam, I'm knocked up. I get healthy and am at a normal weight now, and I struggle. My DH has a spinal cord injury which doesn't impact his life much but in the sense that ejaculating is painful. We usually just have sex for my pleasure. So, this has been an exhausting six months. We are planning to make an appt in January with a RE when our insurance year starts over (we are lucky and Infertility testing and procedures are covered). That gives us December. I'm doing OPKs, temping, and CM checks. Hoping we all get KU soon!
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
Endo can def be "silent" - I'd consider the lap. My recovery last year wasn't bad (although I would not recommend the day before Thanksgiving for surgery - that was poor planning since then my whole extended family knew about my issues). But prior to surgery I never had major endo pain and only mild symptoms.
Thanks, I think I am leaning towards the lap. What was your recovery time like? Were you benched afterwards?
I had my surgery on a Wednesday and was back at work Monday, although I wouldn't have minded an extra day or two. But I probably also would have been recovered sooner if I had rested instead of running around to Thanksgiving meals all day the day after surgery. I was down to only using 800mg ibuprofen within three days for pain (they gave me low-dose Percocet as well). I was only benched for that cycle and we started TTC again after I got my period. Fair warning, your first period post-lap is... unpleasant.
TTC #1 since August 2013 DX: Endo November 2014: Hysteroscopy, D&C June - September 2015: Clomid + Novarel + IUI #1-3 January 2017: Laparoscopy - endo removed
daisy818, @yaga Thanks ladies! I was hoping the recovery would be more like my hysteroscopy. I only had some minor cramping with that and I think I was back to work the next day. It's just hard deciding on surgery when your RE says you probably don't need it. But I'd rather take advantage of my insurance while I still have it!
TTC #1 since August 2013 DX: Endo November 2014: Hysteroscopy, D&C June - September 2015: Clomid + Novarel + IUI #1-3 January 2017: Laparoscopy - endo removed
TTC #1 since August 2013 DX: Endo November 2014: Hysteroscopy, D&C June - September 2015: Clomid + Novarel + IUI #1-3 January 2017: Laparoscopy - endo removed
tinkerbell Thanks! You're right, recovery probably depends on what they find/do. I honestly wouldn't mind a few days at home by myself
I also had a for "funsies" lap. I was back at work within a week. If my office wasn't located in attic I probably would have recovered a little faster.
daisy818 , @yaga Thanks ladies! I was hoping the recovery would be more like my hysteroscopy. I only had some minor cramping with that and I think I was back to work the next day. It's just hard deciding on surgery when your RE says you probably don't need it. But I'd rather take advantage of my insurance while I still have it!
Very different recovery. The hysteroscopy is only going into your uterus through your cervix, the lap requires incisions (3) and potentially removal or cauterization of endometrial tissue. My entire pelvic and abdominal region was poked and prodded, it seemed. Well I guess it really was. Two of my incisions are right around hip level and the third was in my belly button - which is pretty far from the uterus if you think about it.
Ah, this probably would account for some of the difference between our recoveries - they ended up only needing two incisions for me. I was told that they would start with two and do a third if needed, but she was able to take care of everything with just the two - one at the belly button and one that no one would see if I stop lady grooming.
daisy818 , @yaga Thanks ladies! I was hoping the recovery would be more like my hysteroscopy. I only had some minor cramping with that and I think I was back to work the next day. It's just hard deciding on surgery when your RE says you probably don't need it. But I'd rather take advantage of my insurance while I still have it!
Very different recovery. The hysteroscopy is only going into your uterus through your cervix, the lap requires incisions (3) and potentially removal or cauterization of endometrial tissue. My entire pelvic and abdominal region was poked and prodded, it seemed. Well I guess it really was. Two of my incisions are right around hip level and the third was in my belly button - which is pretty far from the uterus if you think about it.
I haven't had surgery before but I am a nurse on a surgical unit and just wanted to add that a lot of pain following a laparoscopic surgery is associated with the gas that they fill up your abdomen so that they can see around in there (since it's not an open procedure). They do their best to get most of it out but there's always some left behind. A lot of my patients say this gas pain is so much worse than the incisional pain. The gas pain is a sudden pain where the incisional pain gets worse as time goes on. Great thing about incision pain is that pain medication takes care of it. With gas pain, medication doesn't help. We recommend heat and walking to get rid of gas pain to our patients.
Just something to keep in mind for post op. Also- as you know- not everybody has the same experience! Good luck!
Post by thechickencoop on Nov 20, 2016 15:35:10 GMT -5
I know a new thread starts tomorrow but uuuughhhhhhh. Our first IUI cycle was a bust. Our RE wants to repeat the same protocol - 25mg clomid day 5 and 6, U/S starting CD 11. I responded perfectly last cycle so I guess there's no reason to try anything different yet.
I also weaned off my zoloft last month so between that and the meds I was (to put it lightly) a fucking wreck. We'll see how this one.goes :/
I'm going to touch base with our insurance tomorrow too; everything we've been told is that we're OOP for IF treatments but diagnostics are covered BUT (and I know I posted it here) it looks like we SHOULD be covered for everything except for IVF. So...I have to go back around with them.
thechickencoop I'm sorry it was a bust just wondering why your RE just does clomid for two days? Just curious.. but wishing you all the luck for your next cycle!!
thechickencoop I'm sorry it was a bust just wondering why your RE just does clomid for two days? Just curious.. but wishing you all the luck for your next cycle!!
That is a question I don't have an answer to lol. I'm *assuming* it's because I DO ovulate on my own normally. But her theory is just that I don't have a very strong ovulation ...or...strong quality eggs? I guess? And because of that they don't stay fertilized.
I knew it was odd last cycle and of course didn't ask cuz I was out of my mind loopy with the meds and H's deciding to buy a car and...general craziness. It seemed to work though, I had two follies and ovulated the best one right on schedule ::shrug:: I'm going to ask this time though at my monitoring appt next week so we'll see what she says.
thechickencoop, I'm so sorry it didn't work. I really hope you can get it straightened out with insurance to have it all covered. I'm so jealous!
Haha well it's certainly not clear yet. I mean, yes, most of our testing was covered but we still payed OOP 1400 for last cycle and if nothing changes, will owe 1200 next week + 99 for the oridrel soooo.... I'm anxious to see what they say tomorrow when I finally get them on the phone. Like...our documents clearly state one thing, but then they're saying something else?
And I'm almost positive they have to cover treatment. I *think* but it's a lot of legal jargon so I could be wrong. In MD if your employer has greater than 50 employees then I think they HAVE to.
In 2014 H's company (I'm on his ins) had an average of 48 so not even any of our testing would have been covered then. Good thing I kept putting off our RE appts til this year :/
ETA because in 2015 their avg was like 51 and this year it will be over 50 as well.
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