joy and remylove1011 We used to put them down later but moved it earlier based on their cues. We've actually been considering moving it closer to 6 because that's when they start to lose it, but it just seems too early. Although I guess I should pay closer attention to whether they both seem equally tired at that time or if one of them needs to go down earlier than the other.
Yup, that could also be the case. So maybe try 6:30 and see if it helps. I've also found that for DD it's dependent on when she ate "dinner". So it's typically 2 hours after I nursed her.
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joy and remylove1011 We used to put them down later but moved it earlier based on their cues. We've actually been considering moving it closer to 6 because that's when they start to lose it, but it just seems too early. Although I guess I should pay closer attention to whether they both seem equally tired at that time or if one of them needs to go down earlier than the other.
I also wonder if they are ready for bed that early. What time do they nap during the day/wake up from their last nap? Ds2 usually takes a quick (like 20 min) snooze around 5 or 5:30 and then we do an 8:00 bedtime. We did this with ds1 as well, and around 6 months he dropped that evening snooze but still kept bedtime at 8.
You can play around with the times and see - try later, try earlier. Try longer/shorter naps.
It is so hard when they aren't sleeping. Ds1 was a horrible sleeper and I just remember being so exhausted and not knowing what to do. So, hugs and fingers crossed for improvement.
joy and remylove1011 We used to put them down later but moved it earlier based on their cues. We've actually been considering moving it closer to 6 because that's when they start to lose it, but it just seems too early. Although I guess I should pay closer attention to whether they both seem equally tired at that time or if one of them needs to go down earlier than the other.
I start bedtime before 6 so usually DS is in bed by 6:30. Don't be afraid to try earlier..it doesn't work you bring them back down and start over. Early bedtimes aren't great for social activities but it works in our house. My 2 year old only in the last 6 months started staying up past 7. And until 1.5 she went to bed between 6:30 and 7.
We also do an early bedtime - depending on naps, he is asleep by 6:30 or 7. Usually 6:30!
H and I will sleep in the living room. If they wake up and it's been less than 2 hours since eating, they have to CIO. If it's been 2+ hours and they don't go down easily with the pacifier, I'll feed. We'll work on night weaning more slowly once we establish a pattern.
H and I will sleep in the living room. If they wake up and it's been less than 2 hours since eating, they have to CIO. If it's been 2+ hours and they don't go down easily with the pacifier, I'll feed. We'll work on night weaning more slowly once we establish a pattern.
. This sounds doable! We do the same thing, except I only feed every 3 hours. We fell into a routine pretty quickly. You'll be surprised how even that much sleep feels better!
H and I will sleep in the living room. If they wake up and it's been less than 2 hours since eating, they have to CIO. If it's been 2+ hours and they don't go down easily with the pacifier, I'll feed. We'll work on night weaning more slowly once we establish a pattern.
. This sounds doable! We do the same thing, except I only feed every 3 hours. We fell into a routine pretty quickly. You'll be surprised how even that much sleep feels better!
It went pretty well, although it was only one night so too soon to know if it was just a fluke. Looks like we may be sleeping in the living room from now on...
H and I will sleep in the living room. If they wake up and it's been less than 2 hours since eating, they have to CIO. If it's been 2+ hours and they don't go down easily with the pacifier, I'll feed. We'll work on night weaning more slowly once we establish a pattern.
That sounds like a solid plan.
Our baby was doing two wake ups a night. The first wake up was hunger but the second wasn't really so I decided to drop it. The first night she slept right through the second feeding time. The second night she woke up and babbled. I kept my resolve (I won't feed her, I won't feed her). Many pacifier replacements and two hours passed but she went back to sleep. Next two nights have been sleeping right through.
Summary: second night might be worse - stick to your plan!
bocaburger I found a Facebook group that has been super helpful, it's called Respectful Sleep Training/Learning. They only let new members in on Wednesdays - it's a massive group. Anyways, it gave me a lot of ideas to try!
bocaburger i hope you get sleep soon! Why are you guys having to sleep in the living room though? Are they in your bedroom?
My daughter had another night in a row of 4-4.5 hour stretches between feeds. I would be thrilled if this is the new normal since she's done every 3 hours for so long now. Jealous of all of you only having 1 wakeup or none but hopefully she's headed in that direction. It's the stomach sleeping that's making a huge difference here!
bocaburger i hope you get sleep soon! Why are you guys having to sleep in the living room though? Are they in your bedroom?
My daughter had another night in a row of 4-4.5 hour stretches between feeds. I would be thrilled if this is the new normal since she's done every 3 hours for so long now. Jealous of all of you only having 1 wakeup or none but hopefully she's headed in that direction. It's the stomach sleeping that's making a huge difference here!
Baby... didn't... eat... last night? What is this sorcery?
She had been doing two wake ups as of last week: 12:30am and 3am, 2 oz each time. I decided she really wasn't hungry at 3am, so we combined the ounces and gave 4 oz at 12:30am. She was mostly sleeping through the second wake up, so hooray!
Last night, she woke up at 11:30pm crying and couldn't calm down, so I went and hugged her a little, gave her a pacifier and put her down. I was dreading her getting up to eat in an hour, maybe two.
Yeah... she slept until 7am. Huh. And was quite pleasant during our getting ready routine before her first bottle. Fascinating.
Baby... didn't... eat... last night? What is this sorcery?
She had been doing two wake ups as of last week: 12:30am and 3am, 2 oz each time. I decided she really wasn't hungry at 3am, so we combined the ounces and gave 4 oz at 12:30am. She was mostly sleeping through the second wake up, so hooray!
Last night, she woke up at 11:30pm crying and couldn't calm down, so I went and hugged her a little, gave her a pacifier and put her down. I was dreading her getting up to eat in an hour, maybe two.
Yeah... she slept until 7am. Huh. And was quite pleasant during our getting ready routine before her first bottle. Fascinating.
How many ounces do you feed during the day? Just curious!
Post by spicysalmonroll on Feb 11, 2017 19:29:13 GMT -5
Has anyone given their child a blanket in the crib before one year? I was talking to my sis in law about how DS wakes 10 times a night. She's a labor nurse with 2 toddlers so I generally trust her childcare advice. she told me to go ahead and give him a blanket. She said he might just need something to cuddle, that he's old enough to not suffocate, and that her kids used them. I put a small one in his crib tonight for the first time but I'm still a little uneasy about it... Not sure if I'll leave it or remove when I go to sleep....
Has anyone given their child a blanket in the crib before one year? I was talking to my sis in law about how DS wakes 10 times a night. She's a labor nurse with 2 toddlers so I generally trust her childcare advice. she told me to go ahead and give him a blanket. She said he might just need something to cuddle, that he's old enough to not suffocate, and that her kids used them. I put a small one in his crib tonight for the first time but I'm still a little uneasy about it... Not sure if I'll leave it or remove when I go to sleep....
Our pediatrician said a small lovey is fine, but no real blankets that are bigger or heavier. At this point they have good motor control, lift their heads and roll, so I feel confident that they could move the lovey if it was in their face. But a bigger blanket might be harder to push out of the way.
90% of SIDS deaths happen within the first 6 months so I think it's ok to relax a little, within reason. Don't fill their cribs with stuff, but one small soft thing is probably fine.
Has anyone given their child a blanket in the crib before one year? I was talking to my sis in law about how DS wakes 10 times a night. She's a labor nurse with 2 toddlers so I generally trust her childcare advice. she told me to go ahead and give him a blanket. She said he might just need something to cuddle, that he's old enough to not suffocate, and that her kids used them. I put a small one in his crib tonight for the first time but I'm still a little uneasy about it... Not sure if I'll leave it or remove when I go to sleep....
DS has a small lovey in his crib. He likes to rub it on his face when he wakes up in the middle of the night to go back to sleep. Then plays with it when he is waiting for me to get him after a nap.
Thanks... What is a lovey? Like the face cloth sized blanket?
I think it's kind if a catch-all term for anything that baby snuggles. DS has a small face cloth sized blanket that has an elephant head and arms. He loves it. The edges are satiny and the rest is fleece-like.
My six month old started sleeping through the night about a month ago. I got her from two feedings a night to one and then she dropped the last one on her own. We all rejoiced.
Starting last week, she began waking up again. Initially a pacifier fixed her life around 4am. Then 2 oz of formula around 4am worked. Now, she's getting up at midnight and literally nothing works. WHAT THE HELL. We have to wait her out and it's miserable for two working parents.
Phase? Teething? Really excited to work on a new skill? She's hungry?
I feel like we were in a really good place so I don't want to ruin that. She knows how to fall asleep on her own. I'm hesitant to start feeding her again over night for all kinds of reasons. I'm not at all against cry it out, but we have neighbors so I'd like to try other interventions before going that route.
EDIT: She chose her bedtime of 7pm and she goes to bed quite happily every night. She has a bedtime routine that works so well. Yes, she is tired and ready for sleep at her bedtime. She gets a solid dinner around 6pm, formula at 7pm and is out with no issue after that until somewhere between 12am and 4am.
EDITEDIT: She's a good little napper and follows Schedule 1 on this site, which is perfectly lovely for a six month old (http://www.babysleepsite.com/schedules/6-month-old-baby-schedule/).
joy was it you questioning if she was having gas or tummy issues? If so then that could be waking her up. My theory on STTN is this: even if they normally can, before 1.5 years old anything can disturb that, but it's usually a phase. Perhaps try gas drops before bed. We do that with DS and it helps.
Post by spicysalmonroll on Mar 8, 2017 13:28:19 GMT -5
joy, Sorry I don't have good advice but I think you just need to ride it out (calm her down/ possibly feed her). We stuff DS's tummy before bed and he's still up by 1 every night and eats quite a bit at that time. Sometimes they just want cuddles and that's ok...emotional needs are as valid as physical ones.
I don't know maybe it's just me, but I feel like so many people are always trying to "fix" their baby and we need to just let them be babies and do what they do and respond to them and help them and eventually they figure it out and do what they need to when they're ready to. It has brought me more peace to just go with his flow and support him rather than trying to fight against it.
I don't know maybe it's just me, but I feel like so many people are always trying to "fix" their baby and we need to just let them be babies and do what they do and respond to them and help them and eventually they figure it out and do what they need to when they're ready to. It has brought me more peace to just go with his flow and support him rather than trying to fight against it.
Yes, I really agree with this. My coworker suggested that I consolidate her naps for her since it might be too much during the day and I was like "uuuuhhhh... no." I've tried very hard to let her lead me and not the other way around. This is what lead me to check her schedule on the babysleep website, which confirms that she has chosen a schedule that is just fine for a six month old.
What concerns me is there is some issue that I can address for her - like her tummy was bothering her, for example. I'm perfectly fine with "it's a phase" as the reasoning! My husband and I can alternate nights while we ride this out. I just wanted to ask in case there was another reason I was missing.
joy was it you questioning if she was having gas or tummy issues? If so then that could be waking her up. My theory on STTN is this: even if they normally can, before 1.5 years old anything can disturb that, but it's usually a phase. Perhaps try gas drops before bed. We do that with DS and it helps.
I thought about this and gave her Gripe Water one night. She has previously loved this stuff but now acts like it's poison. I shot it in her mouth and she spit it back out at me. Haha.
I also purposely skipped vegetables last night and gave her oatmeal with peanut butter.
My other coworker thinks she's making up for last week when she had some tummy issues (vomited once, diarrhea once, ate far less than normal). I said I was hesitant to offer formula again overnight, but she thinks that might actually be the problem. Less food last week + more mobility = a very hungry baby.
I won't be stingy tonight if she wakes up to see if that helps. She did gulp down the 2 oz I gave her last night at midnight so maybe she's not full of it after all :-)
I don't know maybe it's just me, but I feel like so many people are always trying to "fix" their baby and we need to just let them be babies and do what they do and respond to them and help them and eventually they figure it out and do what they need to when they're ready to. It has brought me more peace to just go with his flow and support him rather than trying to fight against it.
Yes, I really agree with this. My coworker suggested that I consolidate her naps for her since it might be too much during the day and I was like "uuuuhhhh... no." I've tried very hard to let her lead me and not the other way around. This is what lead me to check her schedule on the babysleep website, which confirms that she has chosen a schedule that is just fine for a six month old.
What concerns me is there is some issue that I can address for her - like her tummy was bothering her, for example. I'm perfectly fine with "it's a phase" as the reasoning! My husband and I can alternate nights while we ride this out. I just wanted to ask in case there was another reason I was missing.
great reasoning!! There have been several times that mine takes a dump at 2am and I always proclaim proudly to DH "see now if we were cry it out people he would have been in poo all night!" hahahha. Good luck you're rocking this!!
Yes, I really agree with this. My coworker suggested that I consolidate her naps for her since it might be too much during the day and I was like "uuuuhhhh... no." I've tried very hard to let her lead me and not the other way around. This is what lead me to check her schedule on the babysleep website, which confirms that she has chosen a schedule that is just fine for a six month old.
What concerns me is there is some issue that I can address for her - like her tummy was bothering her, for example. I'm perfectly fine with "it's a phase" as the reasoning! My husband and I can alternate nights while we ride this out. I just wanted to ask in case there was another reason I was missing.
great reasoning!! There have been several times that mine takes a dump at 2am and I always proclaim proudly to DH "see now if we were cry it out people he would have been in poo all night!" hahahha. Good luck you're rocking this!!
Ok so I want to refute this a little bit.
CIO doesn't actually mean that you just let your baby cry all night every night. In the beginning, while you are "training" them, there are long periods of crying. There are different methods for this in terms of how often you go in and what you do to soothe them.
Once they are trained, they should be able to put themselves back to sleep pretty easily if they wake up for some reason. So if we hear them, we give it a minute to see if they'll settle themselves. If they don't, we go in to check on them and make sure they can reach their pacifier, then leave. Most of the time they will be back asleep within minutes. If they don't fall back asleep, and especially if the crying gets louder, we try to figure out if there is something else going on - full diaper? Teething discomfort? Foot stuck in the crib bars? And we address that issue. So they don't lay there for hours crying with a poopy diaper.
We did find that CIO was not effective for us before night weaning, because it was hard to tell when they were hungry vs just trying to get picked up. Once I stopped feeding them overnight (at my pediatrician's suggestion), it took 4 nights of CIO and we were done. And the result of night weaning is much more daytime eating, which can be hard, but for me the interrupted sleep is harder.
Agreed bocaburger. Now that he's sleep trained (and mostly night weaned - we still do one MOTN feeding for now), if he's crying and not going back to sleep I take it seriously. It rarely happens now that he knows how to go to sleep on his own, and when he has woken up crying it's been for a real and identifiable reason (he's sick or has a full diaper).
Also, spicysalmonroll, I'm so glad that you've figured out what works for your family. However - i sort of take issue with the idea that I tried to "fix" my baby by teaching him a valuable skill. We teach our children all sorts of things - like, how to eat! Why should this be any different?
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