Me: 32, PCOS Him: 30, 4.5% morph, TTC: 10/11/12 After 5 failed Clomid cycles and 3 failed Femara cycles with HCG triggers, IVF #1 w/ICSI April 2015 resulted in a BFP! Our little Newt was born January 2016!
Thanks for everything @ketchup. You have always supported me by answering questions and calming my tits when needed. You have been an excellent moderator and I don't think you have done anything that warranted straight firing. This is rubbing me wrong. Big hugs my friend. Love you.
Natural chemical pregnancy 8/2013 Clomid #1 and #2: BFN IVF 1 :0 to use IVF 2:4 great embryos after PGS testing. FET 1: BFP EDD 6/20/15 Chemical Pregnancy FET 2: BFP EDD 11/14/2015 MMC 9.5 weeks twins IVF #3: 2 fair embryos after PGS testing Surprise BFP during break cycle and DD born 4/2016
Post by kensie5226 on Jan 23, 2017 20:09:11 GMT -5
I am disappointed in the lack of transparency surrounding this decision. Whatever else went on can be discussed and debated, people can have interpretations of that. However, the way this was carried out lacks the transparency the site set out to establish.
TTC #1: March 2014 Dx: MFI Medicated IUI #1: March 2015-BFP Baby Girl born 11/5/2015! TTC #2: August 2016 Medicated IUI #1: Feb 2017-BFN Medicated IUI #2: March 2017-BFP Baby Boy expected Dec. 1
This site was founded on the premise that we speak our minds and give honest and true advice yet the powers that be have taken action against ketchup for speaking her mind? WTF is with that? I really like how we all talk trash on TD and how that shit show ended yet here admins are taking a page from TD and firing ketchup with no warning and for NO FUCKING REASON. I hope all current/future PAIFers feel free to join us on FB where we have created a safe and honest home, you know since there is obviously not one here anymore.
Well shit. I'm still new to the IF boards in general, but I'm really sorry this is happening. It is antithetical to the reason this places was created.
Me: 31 Wife: 30. Legally married 2008, thanks CA! TTC #1 since 11/14 using donor sperm. IUIs Jan-Aug 2015 BFN Sept & OCT 2015 added Femara. BFN Saw RE December 2015. IUI with Clomid & Trigger Jan 2016 BFN IUI #13 with Follistim April 2016 BFFN IVF #1 July 2016. 14R, 10F, 6 Day 5 embryos. 4 PGS normal embabies!
DH and I are both 38 TTC since Feb 2013 Diagnoses: PCOS ("lean"/non-IR), borderline hypothyroid, hyperprolactinoma 6 TI/IUI cycles in 2014 (2 Clomid, 4 Femara) - 1 cancelled, 5 BFN IVF #1: March 2015 - 22R/12F. 7 frosties FET #1: May 2015
@ketchup, I don't even have words...I'm very sorry! As soon as I read your letter from the mods - before I read the rest of what you wrote - my first thought was "is this TCF or TD?!" This sucks. I'm sorry. Hugs, girl.
Post by teachermomtobe on Jan 23, 2017 21:04:50 GMT -5
I just don't understand. You have been nothing but supportive and knowledgeable in my short time on PAIF. I went and read the thread and much worse has gone down (especially on GKU) and there was even a thread that blew up with people upset at how admin/mods were posting that was much worse than what went down on SAIF. Hypocrisy much?! The way this went down isn't sitting well with me.
Post by mrsrodgersaz on Jan 23, 2017 21:13:54 GMT -5
I'm sorry, @ketchup. This is such BS and seems to be the complete opposite of why TCF was created. You've been so supportive to so many here. It's a shame the admins can't see that.
Me: 34 | DH: 33 Married: 2010 | TTC since Jan 2012 Met RE: March 2014 | Official DX: unexplained 04/2014-12/2014: 5 IUIs, all BFN IVF #1 March 2015 25R/20M/17F: Freeze-all, 12 frosties! FET #1 - May 2015: BFP! Beta #1 361, Beta #2 726 Baby boy, C, born 1/19/2016
@ketchup I'm really sorry. This is so upsetting. I find this board as my solitude and a place where I have received so much support. I really don't like how this situation was handled, especially since this didn't even happen on your Mod board. You have always been so supportive. I really hope you will still participate over here at PAIF. I know I will definitely need the hair pats. Thanks for everything my ute anomoly sister!
Met in May 2011 Engaged November 2011 Married November 2013 Started TTC November 2015 Began Infertility Workup November 2016 BFP! Lucky #13 Cycle TTC Due Date: 9/5/2017
Oh Jesus Christ. I just read the stuff on SAIF. I thought that would naturally be my next progression, especially since I never really connected with my BMB. I feel like Scarlet O'Hara: "where will I go? What will I do?"
I'm super pissed at this situation even more now. WTF, admins?
You'll join us on FB! Don't worry we're welcoming unlike SAIF.
Oh Jesus Christ. I just read the stuff on SAIF. I thought that would naturally be my next progression, especially since I never really connected with my BMB. I feel like Scarlet O'Hara: "where will I go? What will I do?"
I'm super pissed at this situation even more now. WTF, admins?
I just read it too. Now I'm even more pissed off. We deserve an explanation!
Met in May 2011 Engaged November 2011 Married November 2013 Started TTC November 2015 Began Infertility Workup November 2016 BFP! Lucky #13 Cycle TTC Due Date: 9/5/2017
I'm so confused. Just as I decided to come back and reconnect with the girls our mod is gone... @ketchup I'm so sorry you're being put in this position. Thank you for all that you've done for us and our community. You were an amazing mod and a great contributor to all the fall '15 ladies. We appreciate you.
Me:29(IC/PCOS)DH: 29 Jan13-BO dx @ 6W April14-1st RE appointment Sept14-IUI #1.1=BFP EDD-6/3/15- Our sweet baby Ryan was born on 1/6/15 & is in the arms of an Angel Dec15-Gave birth to a healthy baby Boy Feb17-EDD 10/28/17
Also I've waited for years to be able to join you ladies and watched as many graduated. I couldn't wait to come over here to reconnect. This really blows that it happened just as a bunch of us came over to PAIF. I always wondered why SAIF didn't have as much activity and now I understand.
Post by remylove1011 on Jan 24, 2017 7:30:12 GMT -5
WTF. This is total bullshit. Isn't this the exact reason we all left TD. We're not allowed to be snarky? From what I read there were no TOU violations.
Also, what you said it totally true. I mostly hang out on my BMB now and post more in the check-in's on SAIF.
Me (30) MH (32) Dx: MFI (low all the things) M. 10/11. TTC Since 01/14 IUI#1-3(Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN Second Opinion. Changed RE's. IVF 09/15 Long Lupron 12R/9M/8F, Transferred 1=BFN. 4 frosties. FET #1 12/15 Transferred 1 (3 still on ice)
Met in May 2011 Engaged November 2011 Married November 2013 Started TTC November 2015 Began Infertility Workup November 2016 BFP! Lucky #13 Cycle TTC Due Date: 9/5/2017
This was not a decision that was made lightly or with haste, and it is not the result of a single thread or a single instance. It was the result of a continued pattern of behavior, and concerns voiced by more than just a handful of people, and not solely by members of the SAIF community. We had given Ketchup the opportunity to dial back her responses when interacting with the infertility community as a whole, but unfortunately the concerns continued to be brought up by others.
There is a lot more that led to this action than meets the eye, and because of the fact that we want to maintain confidentiality of those who came to us with concerns, we’re afraid that our answer may be insufficient. We’ve promised to be as transparent as possible with the community, but there are times that we cannot be fully transparent, and this is one of those instances.
Also sorry for the delay- phone crashed mid-response
Post by wanderingheart on Jan 24, 2017 11:02:57 GMT -5
I don't even go here, but this is total bullshit
Also, since we can complain about mods to get them fired now, who do we talk to if we have a complaint (or several) against an admin? Asking for a friend. #isthathowitworksnow
Post by juliayadda on Jan 24, 2017 11:02:59 GMT -5
This isn't the bump, so I am going to need to see the steps taken to document and warn off Ketchup from the Admins. And getting in a verbal argument with an off board poster should get all Mods on TCF banned at some point... Freedom to be snarky is what this forum was built on.
I have never posted on SAIF so I can honestly say I dont care what goes on there. If any member does something bannable mod or not that is an issue, but this all just speaks of "we dont like Ketchup, so lets un-mod her"
Maybe Ketchup is just better at presenting her case, but I think this community needs a more concrete reason than "a pattern of behaviour." This is the internet. Is this pattern documented? How many complaints from PAIF posters have their been, and was Ketchup made aware of these complaints in a reasonable amount of time?
Engaged May 2003 Married June 2005 TTC #1 since October 2014 H-1% morph, low motility, low count Me-.1 AMH levels, low AFC, DOR/POI, perimenopause Foster Care journey begins March 2016-licensed 11/7/16 Foster parents to A & J 1/31/17 www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5525ef
I would like examples of these supposed issues with the infertility community, and the "pattern of behavior".
I also call bullshit on mods being held to a higher standard. In terms of bannable offenses, sure. But being snarky? Oh hell no. That's why we came to this place. To get away from the tone police at TB who thought they could tell us how to act and how to talk. And seriously, because they can't block her? The blocking function is shit to begin with, and doesn't work.
Met in May 2011 Engaged November 2011 Married November 2013 Started TTC November 2015 Began Infertility Workup November 2016 BFP! Lucky #13 Cycle TTC Due Date: 9/5/2017
This was not a decision that was made lightly or with haste, and it is not the result of a single thread or a single instance. It was the result of a continued pattern of behavior, and concerns voiced by more than just a handful of people, and not solely by members of the SAIF community. We had given Ketchup the opportunity to dial back her responses when interacting with the infertility community as a whole, but unfortunately the concerns continued to be brought up by others.
There is a lot more that led to this action than meets the eye, and because of the fact that we want to maintain confidentiality of those who came to us with concerns, we’re afraid that our answer may be insufficient. We’ve promised to be as transparent as possible with the community, but there are times that we cannot be fully transparent, and this is one of those instances.
Also sorry for the delay- phone crashed mid-response
Except there was NO transparency in this instance. If ketchup hadn't told the board that she was no longer a mod, no one would have known about the change. There was no statement, no explanation. Nothing.
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