You're all right!! I suffered through her early grunting because I was too nervous about it. Then it settled down. Now that it's back, I'm considering again. I'm so wishy washy!
My grunter went in the next room. It's bad enough I can hear him on the monitor when he rolls or sighs. I am team no paci. My first was an addict and it seemed like it caused lots of wake ups looking for his crutch.
Post by vavavictoria on Jan 30, 2017 21:37:15 GMT -5
I'm team no paci after 12 months. It was a useful tool until a bit past one and then it became crack. C doesn't really care for it but if she changes her mind I'm fine with using it until she turns one and then it's goooooone. We just broke V of it at 25 months and it was hard.
I want to get on Team Paci so bad, but my kids are just not into it. DS2 will take it for naps maybe 25% of the time. And even then, once he spits it out he's over it.
My nephew will be 4 in April and my sister still lets him have one. It's supposed to just be for chill time before bed, but he's 4 and knows where to find it and gets it when he wants (or takes his sister's). It's absurd. I judge it, not gonna lie.
Also, we're off to a good start here tonight. DS2 ate 4oz at 6 and then acted hungry again a little after 8. He ate 2oz and passed out. I put him in bed at 8:40, he didn't even move when I laid him down. It's 10:10 and he's awake crying. Tried rocking with the paci, no go. So I'm feeding him again. We'll see if he actually eats. OMG DS1 was so much easier.
+1 to team paci before one. With DS, I cut the pacifier off his wubbanub the day he turned one and never looked back. Best decision I made. DD is showing very little interest in a paci. It's more like she just likes it for something to hold onto. I want her to like it, but I suppose it's just one less thing to break her of if she doesn't.
+1 to team paci before one. With DS, I cut the pacifier off his wubbanub the day he turned one and never looked back. Best decision I made. DD is showing very little interest in a paci. It's more like she just likes it for something to hold onto. I want her to like it, but I suppose it's just one less thing to break her of if she doesn't.
We did this at 2 and he still carries around the wubanub animal. The dentist said his palate shows signs of paci use even stopping at 2.
becole DS carries it around still too (and it's honestly the grossest thing ever). When he hits two next month, I want to rid the wubbanub monkey and get him attached to something else. The monkey (lovingly called "Ma" in our house) has seen way better days.
+1 to team paci before one. With DS, I cut the pacifier off his wubbanub the day he turned one and never looked back. Best decision I made. DD is showing very little interest in a paci. It's more like she just likes it for something to hold onto. I want her to like it, but I suppose it's just one less thing to break her of if she doesn't.
We did this at 2 and he still carries around the wubanub animal. The dentist said his palate shows signs of paci use even stopping at 2.
Yikes. I hope that doesn't sound judgy. I went straight to thinking about my nephew still using it at 4. Though my sister insists her pedi said it's not a problem. 😳
britta my niece still uses her paci at 4.5, and not just at bedtime. I'm all for whatever works, but at least leave the thing at home. My SIL and I were at a bridal shower together last fall, and she brought my niece. I had to give her one of DS' old pacifiers that I found in the bottom of my diaper bag because they left hers at home...😳
We did this at 2 and he still carries around the wubanub animal. The dentist said his palate shows signs of paci use even stopping at 2.
Yikes. I hope that doesn't sound judgy. I went straight to thinking about my nephew still using it at 4. Though my sister insists her pedi said it's not a problem. 😳
No it's not judgy. The pedi and dentist said to stop at 2, but it was still effecting his teeth. There are some who insist their dentist says 3 is when to stop. I have a friend whose 2 yo always has it attached to his clothing by a little paci chain- and his teeth look curved out in the front from it and his speech is delayed. We also only let him have it for sleep and long car rides. I just wish parents would take it away when it's reasonable- it's not fair to the kid for their teeth and palate to be messed up just because the parent doesn't want to deal with taking it away. Yes it was hard but I'm glad we did it. I should have done it sooner.
Post by iwantbacon on Jan 31, 2017 13:25:18 GMT -5
It's strange that there doesn't seem to be a generally accepted age recommendation to stop the paci use. We had DS1 stop at 3, but his dentist and pedi seemed indifferent. While he had no issues giving it up or with speech, I don't plan to let this one have it as long. Of course I say that now; I will probably change my tune if it gets him to stay asleep.
Post by erien22846 on Jan 31, 2017 14:36:33 GMT -5
DS sucked on his blanket. He was three before he completely kicked the habit. We felt like terrible parents watching him sleep curled in a ball because we took away his blanket for the night (if he chewed on it he lost it the next night so he basically slept with/without every other night). Or he'd cover his legs with an extra pillow. We did it during the summer so he wasn't actually cold. Just looking for the comfort from the blanket I presume.
When we told our dentist DD gave up the paci on her own before 1, he said that was good and recommended stopping use at 1. However, he said if she started sucking her thumb that we should reintroduce the paci. Not sure if it's because pacis can be taken away and thumbs can't or what. Thankfully she didn't suck her thumb or blanket.
We'll see what DS2 does. He can take or leave the paci right now.
Post by vavavictoria on Jan 31, 2017 15:32:48 GMT -5
Our dentist did tell us 2 was ok but for sure stop by 3. He also evaluated V's mouth/teeth etc and saw no signs of damage from the paci. If he had seen damage he would have said to stop. I am not typically a wussy when dealing with toddler behavior but we tried breaking up with the paci when V was 20 months and she cried so violently that she vomited every time we tried to put her down for a nap. Given that the dentist said it was ok, we preferred to wait until she was developmentally more able to understand stopping it.
At Christmas when she was 26 months she went and stayed with grandma and didn't have the paci for a couple of days and didn't even notice. We just never gave it back and she complained a bit when we got back to our house but it was minor. It's really all relative to what the dentist says and what works for your kid.
britta my niece still uses her paci at 4.5, and not just at bedtime. I'm all for whatever works, but at least leave the thing at home. My SIL and I were at a bridal shower together last fall, and she brought my niece. I had to give her one of DS' old pacifiers that I found in the bottom of my diaper bag because they left hers at home...😳
My sister's nephew (on her husband's side) is almost 5 and still using a pacifier. My sister was hosting all her ILs over for dinner at her house, and the nephew's family was running nearly an hour late getting there from the other side of the city. They then stopped on their way to her house because the nearly 5 year old forgot his paci and was throwing a fit. And when they finally got to her house they immediately insisted that she pull out a pot and boil the newly purchased pacifier to sterilize it. My sister was not amused.
DS1 was mildly interested in pacifiers for the first year. It would have been easiest to phase out before he turned 1. But almost as soon as I weaned him, he became suddenly much more attached to the paci. At 18 months, we were generally able to restrict it to sleeping and long car rides. We then stopped cold turkey around 21 months as we were getting ready to move him out of the crib (didn't want to deal with losing pacis in the MOTN) and for DS2's arrival (didn't want him stealing DS2's constantly).
I tried to get DS2 to take a pacifier at first, but he really was not interested. He has a sensitive gag reflex and didn't seem to like having things put in his mouth. Daycare gives him a pacifier sometimes, but we don't use them at home.
I don't know what my cut off for "parents being reasonable" in taking away the paci would be but it would sure as hell not be 4.5 or 5. They're getting adult teeth by then! I also wonder how many people are still giving bottles that late.
You binky jinxers!!! Dd1 brought her binky to me and pointed to it showing me a hole in it. I looked at the other two left and one of them was starting the tiniest one too! DH and I already discussed that we're not buying any more. But I thought we'd lose them one by one, not be 2/3 down in a matter of minutes! It's been a long time coming, but oy.
We went cold turkey with DS's pacifier right around his 2nd birthday. He was attached to his 24/7. Sleep did not happen without it. And he never was really good about putting it back in. It got to the point where he'd deliberately throw it out of the crib because he wanted someone to come in. Momma don't play that game. Surprisingly he had no problems quitting. He watched me throw them out, and that was that.
DD likes her, but she spits it out at some point in the night and so far cannot be bothered to have it put back in . During the day we use it to burp her halfway through feeds, because little miss gets HANGRY. Otherwise she could take it or leave it.
Pacifiers 4 lyfe (although we will probably help DD2 get rid of hers soon) No babies in the bedroom. Ever.
You do you.
My kid apparently heard that sleep training is awesome because he's been keeping me up all damn night. I kid you not the last two nights are the worst sleep I've had since he was BORN. Little stinker. At least I knew it was probably too good to last.
Re: very late pacifier use... it's sometimes a thing because of trauma (kids undergoing chemotherapy is the example with which I'm most familiar) or because of delayed development with a longer term need for that kind of comfort mechanism. And sometimes it's just because, but resist the urge to judge.
But judging makes me feel superior about my little terror.
DD was the perfect sleeper - never had to sleep train and to this day (knock on wood) sleeps through the night even with potty training. Never used a paci and put to bed while awake.
DS was doing a 5-8 hour stretch. Now he's up every 3-4 hours again so I'm nursing him at least 2x a night. He's still in the co-sleeper next to our bed. He also uses a paci like its his job. Here's my hiccup. DS and DD will be sharing a room. We live in a 2 bedroom house. With him waking him that often, I don't want to put him in there yet and have two kiddos waking up. I had transitioned DD to her crib when she was 11 weeks old and here we are at almost 4 months and I have no idea what to do - help.
jcrewgirl do you have a closet or bathroom big enough for a crib or the cosleeper? My first thought would be to put him in there with a monitor. That's what we did when my first was little on vacations and trips.
jcrewgirl do you have a closet or bathroom big enough for a crib or the cosleeper? My first thought would be to put him in there with a monitor. That's what we did when my first was little on vacations and trips.
Nope.
Our house is a 2 bed/1 bath (which has made us very aware that we need more space, especially during potty training, but alas living in a high COLA makes a 2000 sq ft house over $800k).
I was thinking about just seeing how it goes one night. I'm a little worried that DD would get out of bed and "help" by putting a blanket or stuffed animal in there and I know that could end very badly. I don't want to be glued to my phone all night when we put them to bed.
You and your H could sleep in the living room for a few days if you wanted to sleep train him in your bed room. Once he's sttn, then you could move him to your DDs room.
Is it unusual for a 4 month old to wake up a few times a night still and nurse at least once?
Not at all. I would say most are waking 1-2 times. Some more than that. My guy wakes 1-2 times per night between 7pm-7am. You don't have to sleep train. Just if you wanted to and couldn't figure out how to do it. Another option would be for baby to sleep until the living room until he naturally stops waking. With my first that was not a sleeper- that didn't happen until after sleep training at 10 months. I wish I had done it at 4 months because I just kept waiting for him to do it on his own and it never happened. I also tried to do cio at 6 months and 8 months but he always reverted back due to colds and I didn't want to keep doing it.
Is it unusual for a 4 month old to wake up a few times a night still and nurse at least once?
Apparently it is normal, even if they were previously sleeping longer. I was reading up on the 4 mo sleep regression and the increased night nursings and wake ups are all standard. Makes me feel better about the new night nursings in our house.
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