Another sleep question...

[ashleymarie26]

Ok wise parenting ladies..

My 15 month old wakes at 5:15/5:30 am. Every damn day. She sleeps all night, no wakeups. She was going to bed around 6:30pm, up at 5:30am, so we tried pushing bedtime back verrrrry slowly to 7:30pm. We have been doing 7:30pm for about a month now, and STILL she's up at 5:30. I have tried letting her CIO in the mornings (treating it as a night time wake), tried rocking her, tried ignoring her until a "reasonable" time... I'm about ready to say fuck it and go back to 6:30pm bedtime because she is then at least getting in 11 hrs.

She takes a solid 1.5-2hr nap at daycare from 12:30ish to 2:30ish.

Any suggestions?? We are as quiet as mice in the morning so I don't know why her internal clock is set to 5:30 or how to reset it.

[Deleted]

I wish I could help.

0530 has always been the norm for DS1.

I like to tell myself it will make school mornings so much easier.

[ashleymarie26]

Feb 22, 2017 19:28:46 GMT -5 @wineonice said:

I wish I could help.

0530 has always been the norm for DS1.

I like to tell myself it will make school mornings so much easier.

That's a good point. I'll hold on to that

[dietpepsi]

My son has always been an early riser. He was up at 5/5:30 until probably 18 months and now sleeps until 6:30. Wish I had an answer.

[ashleymarie26]

Feb 22, 2017 19:30:55 GMT -5 @aditi said:

Also some kids don't need the "normal" amount of sleep. Both of my kids have slept 1-2 hours less than their peers and are happy and thriving. They just don't need as much sleep.

This is a good point- her days and nights seem the same as far as temperament whether she goes down at 630 or 730. My bigger issue is the 530am and how to fix it

[Deleted]

My 18 month old is the same way. He goes to bed great, sleeps all night, but is mostly always up at the ass crack. Occasionally he'll sleep in until 6 but rarely. I have no advice just commiseration. BUT at least he sleeps all night?

[ashleymarie26]

Feb 22, 2017 19:39:33 GMT -5 Lord Disick said:

Do you have blackout curtains? It could be the light waking her or maybe that's just when she likes to wake up 😕.

We do, and it's not even light at 530 here im thinking she must be an early bird.

[dietpepsi]

Changing the clocks might help. It's what helped us last year. He was waking up at 5am and when the clocks changed we kept bedtime the regular 7pm and his biological clock had him sleep until 6.

I really believe biological clocks are strong. Mine always has been. I have a really hard time sleeping in. I could be stating alternative facts though because I'm not a doctor or sleep expert lol.

[ashleymarie26]

Feb 22, 2017 19:45:22 GMT -5 @girlnextdoor said:

Making bedtime later works for us though. Dd is 14 months, usually goes to bed at 7 and wakes around 6. If she stays up late on weekends or if we are out later than normal, she will sleep til as late as 9am. Maybe try 730 or 8 if you want a later riser? I personally like the early to bed and early to rise.

I dont really need her to sleep in, per say, I'd just really love like, 630. So I can shower and drink my coffee, ha. We are early risers too and pre-baby very rarely slept past 7 anyways

[Deleted]

ashleymarie26, I hate to say this, but the 0530 wake-up is why I get up at 0500.

That 30 minutes to drink coffee has been a lifesaver.

And I've started showering at night.

[robotpcr]

I recently discovered the heater on a timer kicking on in the mornings was waking DD up. She's 21 months. But some kids are just early risers. At this point she's learned to hang out until a "reasonable" hour and I've learned to go back to sleep. That took some time on both ends though.

[fancynewbeesly]

Feb 22, 2017 19:28:46 GMT -5 @wineonice said:

I wish I could help.

0530 has always been the norm for DS1.

I like to tell myself it will make school mornings so much easier.

It really does make school mornings so much easier. Reese is usually up by 6. She doesn't leave for school until 9:00.

That seriously gives her three hours to do whatever the hell she wants. She eats breakfast and gets dressed quickly. After that the remaining two hours she can do whatever she wants...sometimes she plays outside, draws, watches tv. 


But nothing really worked-no matter what. I really think some kids are just early risers. Now that she is 5, she knows that she can't come to our room when the clock says "5" unless it is an emergency. 6:00 she can get up and play. 6:30 is when she can come to us. 

[k3am]

I'm asking myself the same questions... and have been for YEARS now. 😖

[flippinchica]

Feb 22, 2017 19:29:56 GMT -5 @aditi said:

If my 17 month old wakes up between 4:30-6:30, I nurse her and put her back down.

I SAH, though.

This is pretty much what I do. Before 5 I ignore but he rarely wakes before then. Between 5 and 6:30 I bring him to bed with me and nurse and he usually goes back to sleep.

[amylee545]

DD went through a phase of 5-530am wakeups a few months ago (she's 21m now), as opposed to her usual 630 wake up. It lasted at least a month I think... we tried the later bedtime thing too with her, which only led to EARLIER wake ups so we stopped that pretty quickly. The only thing that helped was time. She eventually stopped and went back to her usual wake up time... she even rewarded us lately and went through a couple week phase of waking up at 730am!! Hang in there

[Deleted]

my oldest needs twice as much sleep as I do

My youngest needs half as much sleep as I do

Blackout curtains certainly helped a little, like to get him to sleep in occasionally past sunrise

But for years he was 430, then gradually 530
now at almost 17 he's mostly 630 or 7 even if he never ever sets an alarm clock.
And even if he stays up til midnight.

Unless he's sick.
If he's in bed at 9 on a weekend, I know he's sick.

[lifesaverz]

If you give the morning bottle or sippy at that time will she go back to sleep? When my little wakes between 6 & 6:30 I give the morning bottle & put back in bed. Also the black out curtains make a big difference.

[ashleymarie26]

Feb 22, 2017 23:24:30 GMT -5 lifesaverz said:

If you give the morning bottle or sippy at that time will she go back to sleep? When my little wakes between 6 & 6:30 I give the morning bottle & put back in bed. Also the black out curtains make a big difference.

She doesn't take any bottles anymore, and I'd rather not give her a sippy in her crib. She eats breakfast around 7.

[pinkie]

I think our younger son did this for awhile at that age. We gave him milk and ;put him back in his crib. My husband handled most of those wake ups so I'm hazy on it. Then he stayed until 7-8. We tried everything we could to train his body to sleep in (we never got him up that early). but I'm not sure if it was what we did vs his personality to want to sleep later.

5 would kill me so you have my commiserations!

[ashleymarie26]

Go figure this morning she is still asleep at 620 🙄

[pinkie]

I wanted to clarify - by not letting him get up early I mean we would not leave his room until the time we wanted him to sleep to. Sometimes we just rocked him (he may doze on us vs actually go back to sleep). Again though he had the personality that loved sleep so I don't know how much we changed the situation

[spooko]

I think some kids are just wired that way. DS is my early bird and DD is downright ugly if she's up before 6:15 or so. Both kids wake at the same time regardless of bedtime so I've just always had to make sure DS got to bed early enough to have good days and not be overtired. Keeping him up later never once caused him to sleep in--just be a monster the next day(s).

By 3 yo or so he could operate the remote and grab a granola bar, though, so it did become easier over time. When he was much younger we'd just bring him in bed with us and quietly sing songs or cuddle so at least H and I didn't have to physically MOVE quite so early.

[lifesaverz]

Feb 23, 2017 6:36:24 GMT -5 ashleymarie26 said:

Feb 22, 2017 23:24:30 GMT -5 lifesaverz said:

If you give the morning bottle or sippy at that time will she go back to sleep? When my little wakes between 6 & 6:30 I give the morning bottle & put back in bed. Also the black out curtains make a big difference.

She doesn't take any bottles anymore, and I'd rather not give her a sippy in her crib. She eats breakfast around 7.

I wouldn't give it in the crib either. I mean you hold/rock her while she drinks it, then put back to bed. My DD did that forever & she still ate breakfast just fine. If I was in your shoes I'd try just about anything to not have to wake up at that time. Worth a shot.

[pinkie]

Feb 23, 2017 11:47:59 GMT -5 lifesaverz said:

Feb 23, 2017 6:36:24 GMT -5 ashleymarie26 said:

She doesn't take any bottles anymore, and I'd rather not give her a sippy in her crib. She eats breakfast around 7.

I wouldn't give it in the crib either. I mean you hold/rock her while she drinks it, then put back to bed. My DD did that forever & she still ate breakfast just fine. If I was in your shoes I'd try just about anything to not have to wake up at that time. Worth a shot.

This is what we did. We give milk in the morning anyway so it was just his morning milk.

[lifesaverz]

Feb 23, 2017 14:01:23 GMT -5 pinkie said:

Feb 23, 2017 11:47:59 GMT -5 lifesaverz said:

I wouldn't give it in the crib either. I mean you hold/rock her while she drinks it, then put back to bed. My DD did that forever & she still ate breakfast just fine. If I was in your shoes I'd try just about anything to not have to wake up at that time. Worth a shot.

This is what we did. We give milk in the morning anyway so it was just his morning milk.

Yep, same here