I'm sorry Stringy I think the best way to night wean is to let DW handle the wake ups for a few days.
Yea, I send her in once or twice a night and its about 50/50 if she can get her back to sleep without us giving in and me going (like if P completely loses it). Getting her on board for the long night/haul will be harder.
Should I go cold turkey though or set a time where she can still feed, like somewhere between 1-3? I wonder if that will motivate P to try harder if she does get to nurse at some point. She may take a sleepy bottle though. Or some water.
Stringy , I'm sorry. It's tough. I wouldn't quit cold turkey....kiddo prob needs to eat if refusing during the day. Set a time frame where you will go in and feed. Either after a set time or every other wake Up? Definitely give a bottle before solids....at this point they should still be mostly on milk/formula and solids are extra. What are naps looking like?
Yea, I know the milk before solid "rule" but didn't pay much attention to it this time because frankly its just easier to do solids and she's not in danger of losing weight. But it may help with sleep so I asked people to prioritize the bottles (grandparents who watch her).
Naps are fine, either 2 good ones (1-1.5 hours) or 3 if they are shorter.
I say fine because DD1 was a nap disaster so anything in the crib without a battle is a win to me.
Stringy until she is upping her intake during the day I don't think you should go cold turkey. How about milk from a cup if she is refusing bottles?
Nope, we've tried that. She LOVES her water cup, but put BM in it and its pushed to the side or dropped over the edge. :eye roll:
A month or so ago we made a night schedule of when I would feed and wouldn't and it worked okay until she got sick. So I should probably revisit that. It just takes so much WORK. lol.
Stringy I'm sorry I don't have any advice but ds just started crawling and I'm seeing a slight (like 5 wake ups to 3/4 wake ups) so maybe it's just the milestone.
On another note, ArgyleEnigma how are things going?
Well, thank you (she types at 12:19am during the second wake-up, lol). He goes down by himself, no fuss no muss, at bedtime. I feed him at 10pm and that's usually it until 4 or 5, occasionally later. He's been sick lately though, and that's meant more waking.
Stringy is her pediatrician any help? If she refuses bottles some wake-ups are probably necessary, but not every 2 hours, surly. Shoot for every 4? You'll probably need DW on board.
Post by princessisadora on Mar 22, 2017 2:06:04 GMT -5
You guys I'm jumping in this thread. This week DH and I have made a plan that we are going to slowly work into full blown sleep training this weekend since it's my weekend off. Our crutch is nursing to sleep, holding and rocking. We are working on the waiting 3 minutes before we go in after wake ups. Tonight after 2 wake ups my baby is hoarse!!! His cry is a rasp! I can fucking do this! I feel like I did this to my child, I made him lose his voice. I feel like absolute shit. I'm ready to throw the towel. How am I going to survive the weaning off the falling asleep at the book if 6-10min of crying/screaming leave him like this?!
Post by manybellsdown on Mar 22, 2017 9:44:18 GMT -5
First off, hugs princessisadora. This shit is rough. How is he at falling asleep initially? I think most recommend he be falling asleep on his own at the start of the night before trying to tackle wake-ups.
And honestly if E knows I'm around and he wants boob in the middle of the night, nothing else is happening. Send DH in for sure.
First off, hugs princessisadora. This shit is rough. How is he at falling asleep initially? I think most recommend he be falling asleep on his own at the start of the night before trying to tackle wake-ups.
And honestly if E knows I'm around and he wants boob in the middle of the night, nothing else is happening. Send DH in for sure.
He falls asleep nursing. We have never been successful at DBA...ok maybe once it was an isolated incident
You guys I'm jumping in this thread. This week DH and I have made a plan that we are going to slowly work into full blown sleep training this weekend since it's my weekend off. Our crutch is nursing to sleep, holding and rocking. We are working on the waiting 3 minutes before we go in after wake ups. Tonight after 2 wake ups my baby is hoarse!!! His cry is a rasp! I can fucking do this! I feel like I did this to my child, I made him lose his voice. I feel like absolute shit. I'm ready to throw the towel. How am I going to survive the weaning off the falling asleep at the book if 6-10min of crying/screaming leave him like this?!
Stay strong! Remember they need to learn to sleep for their own good so you're helping him learn now. It gets harder if they're even older and more vocal. And you're right there and know they are safe. You can do it!!
First off, hugs princessisadora. This shit is rough. How is he at falling asleep initially? I think most recommend he be falling asleep on his own at the start of the night before trying to tackle wake-ups.
And honestly if E knows I'm around and he wants boob in the middle of the night, nothing else is happening. Send DH in for sure.
He falls asleep nursing. We have never been successful at DBA...ok maybe once it was an isolated incident
No judgment here, I do it too. I would start with this part though.
Hugs princessisadora! Please don't be so hard on yourself. It is so hard! I have to send DH in for wakes ups as well cause if she sees me she has to nurse.
First off, hugs princessisadora. This shit is rough. How is he at falling asleep initially? I think most recommend he be falling asleep on his own at the start of the night before trying to tackle wake-ups.
And honestly if E knows I'm around and he wants boob in the middle of the night, nothing else is happening. Send DH in for sure.
He falls asleep nursing. We have never been successful at DBA...ok maybe once it was an isolated incident
If it makes you feel better we put down awake, she falls asleep fine, but then is up 3-6 times per night. So DBA =/ sttn
Post by ArgyleEnigma on Mar 23, 2017 15:54:46 GMT -5
What is DBA?
It might already be in this thread, but we trained going to sleep himself at bedtime first. I didn't totally give up nursing to sleep--I just rouse him after, read a Goodnight Moon, sing Rockabye Baby, say night night, and peace.
Here is what happened, from my notes: Night1: 10:39-10:49 cried (never a full minute straight) 10:49-11:05 sang and rubbed back to sleep
Night2: Less than 10 min crying, less than 10 min singing
Night3: About 5 second crying
Night4: No crying
It's me in the present again. So it wasn't never crying again after this, but the only time it was ever as bad as the first night, he did end up being actually hungry. So it has been great.
All of the following is based on my experience only. Your milage will vary. But, fwiw: Do not cave! Your baby can't notice the pattern if you cave. You can go in and comfort or not go in and comfort, you can set the length of crying to whatever you want, but be consistent or they have no hope of realizing there's a routine. And routine=knowing what to expect, what's going on in Life=calmer baby. Trade off. If you can't do it anymore, it's YH's turn. As I mentioned, we went in and touched/sang w/o picking up. When I first went in was the worst. He got more upset--why aren't you picking me up?--it was so so hard, but it was literally minutes. Then he calmed so much. I would not have done this method if my H wasn't on board. Would have been too much. So factor in your partner's involvement when crafting your approach.
You guys I'm jumping in this thread. This week DH and I have made a plan that we are going to slowly work into full blown sleep training this weekend since it's my weekend off. Our crutch is nursing to sleep, holding and rocking. We are working on the waiting 3 minutes before we go in after wake ups. Tonight after 2 wake ups my baby is hoarse!!! His cry is a rasp! I can fucking do this! I feel like I did this to my child, I made him lose his voice. I feel like absolute shit. I'm ready to throw the towel. How am I going to survive the weaning off the falling asleep at the book if 6-10min of crying/screaming leave him like this?!
((Hugs!!)) how has it been the last couple nights?
You guys I'm jumping in this thread. This week DH and I have made a plan that we are going to slowly work into full blown sleep training this weekend since it's my weekend off. Our crutch is nursing to sleep, holding and rocking. We are working on the waiting 3 minutes before we go in after wake ups. Tonight after 2 wake ups my baby is hoarse!!! His cry is a rasp! I can fucking do this! I feel like I did this to my child, I made him lose his voice. I feel like absolute shit. I'm ready to throw the towel. How am I going to survive the weaning off the falling asleep at the book if 6-10min of crying/screaming leave him like this?!
((Hugs!!)) how has it been the last couple nights?
It has been going well. Night 2 he fell asleep in like 5 min when we put him down with no crying and we had 2 wake ups. The hardest one was the 5 am one since he wanted to play. Last night , night 3, was rough. I don't think it was because of the training he was waking up cause of a cough. He put himself back to sleep a few times until my stupid dogs started barking and startled him. We had to nebulize him with saline cause he kept coughing. He was also touching his ear a lot, so he earned himself a trip to the pediatrician breaking our 2 week streak of health and not seeing a doctor.
((Hugs!!)) how has it been the last couple nights?
It has been going well. Night 2 he fell asleep in like 5 min when we put him down with no crying and we had 2 wake ups. The hardest one was the 5 am one since he wanted to play. Last night , night 3, was rough. I don't think it was because of the training he was waking up cause of a cough. He put himself back to sleep a few times until my stupid dogs started barking and startled him. We had to nebulize him with saline cause he kept coughing. He was also touching his ear a lot, so he earned himself a trip to the pediatrician breaking our 2 week streak of health and not seeing a doctor.
I was about to like this until the ear part. We have such short streaks of health, too. Hope the cough improves asap! Glad you've had some sleep success.
I feel like I'm doing bedtime all wrong. He always falls asleep nursing aside from a handful of times. Last time he was pretty awake and cried and cried. I felt like I cut him off from eating so I finished feeding him and of course he fell asleep. I know I need to figure out a way to not have him fall asleep eating.
I feel like I'm doing bedtime all wrong. He always falls asleep nursing aside from a handful of times. Last time he was pretty awake and cried and cried. I felt like I cut him off from eating so I finished feeding him and of course he fell asleep. I know I need to figure out a way to not have him fall asleep eating.
I feel like that too. We rock to sleep... I know we will have to figure out how to change that, but it works for us at the moment so my motivation is low.
Post by ArgyleEnigma on Mar 27, 2017 13:01:20 GMT -5
Kevinmactitania I wouldn't try to get away from it so much as incorporate it. It works! Yay! Just ease off on using it as a crutch--if and only if you want to, of course. We nurse to sleep too, and then I rouse him slightly to put him down.
Kevinmactitania I wouldn't try to get away from it so much as incorporate it. It works! Yay! Just ease off on using it as a crutch--if and only if you want to, of course. We nurse to sleep too, and then I rouse him slightly to put him down.
Thanks for the encouragement! You are totally right - incorporating it is a way better approach.
I feel like I'm doing bedtime all wrong. He always falls asleep nursing aside from a handful of times. Last time he was pretty awake and cried and cried. I felt like I cut him off from eating so I finished feeding him and of course he fell asleep. I know I need to figure out a way to not have him fall asleep eating.
If you're happy with how he sleeps overnight than I wouldn't worry about changing it right now.
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