I have a newbie question I've been thinking about a bit lately. H and I had been using the withdrawal method as our only form of BC for over a year before TTC. Obviously, I did not get pregnant. I've been doing a bit of research on the stats of pregnancy occurring when using the pulling out method, and it seems to vary widely from source to source. Some say 4% if done correctly, others say 30%, baby center says their cousin's sister's girlfriend got KU using it so it's not effective at all .
I was talking to a few friends about it the other day and they seemed to think that I should be concerned about the fact that we didn't get KU in that time frame. I feel like if we were doing it right (which I think we were) then there's no reason to think there may be something wrong with our fertility.
TL; DR: My question is: do you have any reliable sources on the effectiveness of the withdrawal method?
I have a newbie question I've been thinking about a bit lately. H and I had been using the withdrawal method as our only form of BC for over a year before TTC. Obviously, I did not get pregnant. I've been doing a bit of research on the stats of pregnancy occurring when using the pulling out method, and it seems to vary widely from source to source. Some say 4% if done correctly, others say 30%, baby center says their cousin's sister's girlfriend got KU using it so it's not effective at all .
I was talking to a few friends about it the other day and they seemed to think that I should be concerned about the fact that we didn't get KU in that time frame. I feel like if we were doing it right (which I think we were) then there's no reason to think there may be something wrong with our fertility.
TL; DR: My question is: do you have any reliable sources on the effectiveness of the withdrawal method?
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One of my close friends and her BF, now H, used only the withdrawal method for 4 years. The first time they "tried" and didn't essentially withdraw, she got KU.
Ok, so I know I don't technically go here anymore but I have a question and I trust you all.. I know there is a whole debate over deli meat during pregnancy and that a lot of people on here don't support the naysayers. Is anyone willing to share their thoughts on why deli meat or refrigerated meat is ok during pregnancy? Thank you!
I promise I'm leaving soon... But I like you too much!
Eat your deli meat. When I was KU with DS there was a listeria outbreak related to cantaloupe. It didn't bother me to eat deli meat before that, but that just solidified the fact that it could happen with a lot of things. I mean, don't buy your black forest ham out of the back of a truck, but, just like any other time, I would think it is perfectly fine from a reputable grocer. ::shrug::
I have a newbie question I've been thinking about a bit lately. H and I had been using the withdrawal method as our only form of BC for over a year before TTC. Obviously, I did not get pregnant. I've been doing a bit of research on the stats of pregnancy occurring when using the pulling out method, and it seems to vary widely from source to source. Some say 4% if done correctly, others say 30%, baby center says their cousin's sister's girlfriend got KU using it so it's not effective at all .
I was talking to a few friends about it the other day and they seemed to think that I should be concerned about the fact that we didn't get KU in that time frame. I feel like if we were doing it right (which I think we were) then there's no reason to think there may be something wrong with our fertility.
TL; DR: My question is: do you have any reliable sources on the effectiveness of the withdrawal method?
/ancedote only
One of my close friends and her BF, now H, used only the withdrawal method for 4 years. The first time they "tried" and didn't essentially withdraw, she got KU.
/anecdote
That's how I got pregnant with DD. I was off BCP for 9 months and we were NTNP in that time, but he usually withdrew. The one time he didn't and it was "green week" (according to my super duper fancy reliable "period tracker" app at the time), pregnant.
I think I've seen it mentioned on here that about 1/3 (or less) of men may have sperm in their pre-ejaculate, so that would make it effective for at least 66%, right?
One of my close friends and her BF, now H, used only the withdrawal method for 4 years. The first time they "tried" and didn't essentially withdraw, she got KU.
/anecdote
That's how I got pregnant with DD. I was off BCP for 9 months and we were NTNP in that time, but he usually withdrew. The one time he didn't and it was "green week" (according to my super duper fancy reliable "period tracker" app at the time), pregnant.
I think I've seen it mentioned on here that about 1/3 (or less) of men may have sperm in their pre-ejaculate, so that would make it effective for at least 66%, right?
/anecdote
A former coworker and her boyfriend did pull out for 5 years before they married and started trying. She was afraid she was infertile because they only used that to prevent for so many years. She got pregnant 2 months after they married (he stopped pulling out once they were married).
/anecdote
My nephew tried to use this as well. His daughter is 11.
In a year, 85% of those not pulling out will end up pregnant. 19% of those pulling out will end up pregnant.
Post by anonymouseliza on Feb 22, 2015 13:56:24 GMT -5
Re: deli meat. Everyone covered the whys of it. I think it's not a big deal, but if you are concerned about safety, then heat the meat (mmm, toasted sammich). There are other reasons to avoid, like sodium or nitrates, but they aren't specific to pregnancy. It's a use your own judgement thing, basically. Everyone draws their safety lines that they are comfortable with and that's what you have to do. Morbid, but still true, with my pregnancies I ask myself how I would feel about it if I lost the baby. If it's something that might make me question my actions in that light, I avoid it. Like bodies of water or bathing after my cerclage was placed. I thought it was dumb - it was forbidden to take a bath or enter a pool/body of water because of the microscopic chance of an infection when I had a foreign object holding my cervix together - but I also know that if I did somehow contract an infection, however remote the possibility was, and it resulted in pre-term birth or worse, I'd never forgive myself. I had no problem with a beer on my birthday, or with sushi that I knew was reputably sourced. Everything is risk/benefit analysis, pregnant or no.
Re: pulling out
If you were perfectly timing sex for your fertile window each month and pulling out, but not being careful about it, then maybe there is a reason for concern. Absent that, I wouldn't worry terrifically, though I might mention it after a year of carefully timed sex. As we know, you can't get pregnant without sex in the fertile window, and if you aren't having sex then (pulling out or no), you aren't going to get pregnant. That contributes just as much to the efficacy of the withdrawal method imo.
I have a newbie question I've been thinking about a bit lately. H and I had been using the withdrawal method as our only form of BC for over a year before TTC. Obviously, I did not get pregnant. I've been doing a bit of research on the stats of pregnancy occurring when using the pulling out method, and it seems to vary widely from source to source. Some say 4% if done correctly, others say 30%, baby center says their cousin's sister's girlfriend got KU using it so it's not effective at all .
I was talking to a few friends about it the other day and they seemed to think that I should be concerned about the fact that we didn't get KU in that time frame. I feel like if we were doing it right (which I think we were) then there's no reason to think there may be something wrong with our fertility.
TL; DR: My question is: do you have any reliable sources on the effectiveness of the withdrawal method? [/G]
Just started lurking here but I figured I'd share my experience. DH and I used the withdrawal method for 3 years with no issues and got then KU our first cycle of trying.
Hi I'm a newbie and this is probably way TMI... but, here goes
I get recurrent vaginal infections that coincide with the LP of my cycle. Every time I go to the ob-gyn about this they diagnose it as yeast and give me some meds. The meds work for that cycle, and then - hello - next cycle - right around O time - I can tell something is just OFF. The last time I went my ob-gyn said this just happens for some women, you can try borax! to regulate the ph right around when you know symptoms are going to show.
So my questions are: Does anybody have any experiences similar to this? Any ways to beat it? Does this affect my monthly conception chances and how?
Thanks!
I have had two yeast infections in my life, and the last one was right after ovulation and there was nothing different about my routine except that. Anytime your hormones are rapidly shifting (after ovulation, right before/after your period, during pregnancy), it can create the opportunity for a yeast infection. I have no advice, because I've been really lucky to largely avoid yeast infections. But I think the other suggestion of ensuring your partner is also tested for/treated for yeast infection is an excellent idea. Sorry you are dealing with this!
I have a question about CD 1. My RE office said if you get your period after a certain time in the afternoon -3pm maybe- to count day one as the next day. Is this common or just their way of only having people call first thing in the morning.
Asking if it's common in general like for tracking- not for other REs.
Second question- how much does a normal luteal phase vary for a person? Like mine was always 13 or 14 and I just got my period and it's day 11 post O.
I have a question about CD 1. My RE office said if you get your period after a certain time in the afternoon -3pm maybe- to count day one as the next day. Is this common or just their way of only having people call first thing in the morning.
Asking if it's common in general like for tracking- not for other REs.
Second question- how much does a normal luteal phase vary for a person? Like mine was always 13 or 14 and I just got my period and it's day 11 post O.
For general tracking just be consistent. If you are going to put an arbitrary cutoff, use it every cycle.
LPs can vary a couple days either way. As long as it is 10+, it's not an issue.
Happy Monday! Is it ok if I ask another question on here?
I just started charting last week after being on BC for 9 years.
I have my alarm set for 6:30am and have been taking my temperature at that time each morning. I have always gotten up once or twice a night to use the bathroom, and I have noticed that every morning, between 3-5am, I am getting up to pee. I fall right back asleep so I am still sound asleep for a couple of hours before I temp.
Is this messing with my temps? Should I change something? Any advice?
Happy Monday! Is it ok if I ask another question on here?
I just started charting last week after being on BC for 9 years.
I have my alarm set for 6:30am and have been taking my temperature at that time each morning. I have always gotten up once or twice a night to use the bathroom, and I have noticed that every morning, between 3-5am, I am getting up to pee. I fall right back asleep so I am still sound asleep for a couple of hours before I temp.
Is this messing with my temps? Should I change something? Any advice?
Thanks!!
Are your temps really rocky? Can you link your chart so we can see? I am a person that just takes my temp whenever I wake up after 3 hours of sleep, and I also wake up between 3 and 5 to pee. So I just take my temp before getting out of bed. But some people are unable to take their temp at different times. It depends on the person.
Yep. They don't really look rocky to me, so I would just keep doing what you're doing if it keeps working for you. You should still be able to see a clear shift after ovulation.
At this point it's hard to say. Keep temping, and make sure you are noting other signs. If you don't get a clear shift or things aren't lining up between secondary signs and your O date, then it might be causing enough of an issue that you would need to figure out some other option for temping.
Happy Monday! Is it ok if I ask another question on here?
I just started charting last week after being on BC for 9 years.
I have my alarm set for 6:30am and have been taking my temperature at that time each morning. I have always gotten up once or twice a night to use the bathroom, and I have noticed that every morning, between 3-5am, I am getting up to pee. I fall right back asleep so I am still sound asleep for a couple of hours before I temp.
Is this messing with my temps? Should I change something? Any advice?
Thanks!!
I temp at 6AM. I often wake up to pee (or with my DD) in the MOTN.
For me, the time is more important than the # of hours sleep. I *try* not to get up within the hour or so I'm going to temp (so from 5AM on), but if I absolutely can't hold it, I wait as long as I can, temp, then go. HTH!
Post by graychloham on Feb 24, 2015 9:45:15 GMT -5
Hello everyone! I am new to this board after lurking for a while on TD and now moving over here. I have already learned so much about the TTC process and am grateful for all the knowledge I have gained! I hope this is an ok place to ask for a chart stalk. I haven't posted in the WTO or TWW threads yet so I figured I could ask the question here.
FF is currently giving me dotted crosshairs at CD 12. I'm not sure if I believe them entirely, especially with not getting a positive OPK until the next day. Can anyone take a look and lmk what you think? Thanks!
Hello everyone! I am new to this board after lurking for a while on TD and now moving over here. I have already learned so much about the TTC process and am grateful for all the knowledge I have gained! I hope this is an ok place to ask for a chart stalk. I haven't posted in the WTO or TWW threads yet so I figured I could ask the question here.
FF is currently giving me dotted crosshairs at CD 12. I'm not sure if I believe them entirely, especially with not getting a positive OPK until the next day. Can anyone take a look and lmk what you think? Thanks!
It looks pretty accurate to me so far as far as your temperatures go. The LH surge and CM are just secondary signs, but I'd keep HIO just in case for a couple more days.
Hello everyone! I am new to this board after lurking for a while on TD and now moving over here. I have already learned so much about the TTC process and am grateful for all the knowledge I have gained! I hope this is an ok place to ask for a chart stalk. I haven't posted in the WTO or TWW threads yet so I figured I could ask the question here.
FF is currently giving me dotted crosshairs at CD 12. I'm not sure if I believe them entirely, especially with not getting a positive OPK until the next day. Can anyone take a look and lmk what you think? Thanks!
You can post in WTO or TWW any time. Jump on in. (But also participate in other threads around the board if you want us to get to know you.)
Number One: Born 06.16.2009 BFP: 01.17.2014 / MC 02.05.2014 BFP: 03.08.2014 / MMC: 05.07.2014 Dx: Partial Molar/GTD. Benched until 01.2015 Number Two: Born 07.22.2016
Hello everyone! I am new to this board after lurking for a while on TD and now moving over here. I have already learned so much about the TTC process and am grateful for all the knowledge I have gained! I hope this is an ok place to ask for a chart stalk. I haven't posted in the WTO or TWW threads yet so I figured I could ask the question here.
FF is currently giving me dotted crosshairs at CD 12. I'm not sure if I believe them entirely, especially with not getting a positive OPK until the next day. Can anyone take a look and lmk what you think? Thanks!
My personal rule of thumb is temps > everything else. That said, you could have another temp jump in the next few days and FF will move your crosshairs to account for the new information. Keep having sex (for TTC and for not -- don't forget to have fun!) and you'll likely get a better idea of what's going on next week.
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