R/R/CS: Have to go argue about getting a prescription filled today. Prior authorizations are such a bitch.
GTKY: What was your favorite school subject? History - I have minor in history for my undergrad.
Edit: I should try to answer my own GTKY questions. ETA: FF is saying to expect a 29 day cycle. Im usually 24 days right on the dot. Ive been cramping on and off since Thursday night. Im pretty sure I saw faint spotting just a few minutes ago. I think I messed up my chart something fierce this cycle. Ugh.
R/R/CS: I know it's too early to symptom spot. That doesn't stop my stupid brain from getting all excited about random 'symptoms' (which are actually not symptoms but my brain is dumb)
GTKY: What was your favorite school subject? History. I'm technically certified as a high school social studies teacher.
Testing plans: Next Saturday as we are going on Vacation and I need to know if I can hot tub it!
R/R/CS: Holy Fuck, the letrozole really worked! O on CD 16 and a real chance! Whoot Whoot for modern medicine! I was so doubtful I didn't post at all in the WTO but I should have, I would only have been there 2 weeks! (as opposed to 2 months before)!
GTKY: What was your favorite school subject? I love Math and History and Chemistry! I love facts and logic and knowing how things work and why!
teraiin-I can be the same way about symptoms. My brain knows logically it is too early but my heart wants to hope!
Testing plans: Next Saturday as we are going on Vacation and I need to know if I can hot tub it!
R/R/CS: Holy Fuck, the letrozole really worked! O on CD 16 and a real chance! Whoot Whoot for modern medicine! I was so doubtful I didn't post at all in the WTO but I should have, I would only have been there 2 weeks! (as opposed to 2 months before)!
GTKY: What was your favorite school subject? I love Math and History and Chemistry! I love facts and logic and knowing how things work and why!
teraiin-I can be the same way about symptoms. My brain knows logically it is too early but my heart wants to hope!
R/R/CS: I'm feeling really hopeful at this point. My usual LP is 10-12 days, so as long as today doesn't turn into CD 1, we're looking good. I am SO antsy to just find out one way or another. Good think IPs have the tests, or I'd probably be peeing on everything today.
GTKY: What was your favorite school subject? English. I finally embraced it and majored in English in college. I don't really use my degree in my current work, but I enjoyed studying it.
Testing plans: Next Saturday as we are going on Vacation and I need to know if I can hot tub it!
R/R/CS: Holy Fuck, the letrozole really worked! O on CD 16 and a real chance! Whoot Whoot for modern medicine! I was so doubtful I didn't post at all in the WTO but I should have, I would only have been there 2 weeks! (as opposed to 2 months before)!
GTKY: What was your favorite school subject? I love Math and History and Chemistry! I love facts and logic and knowing how things work and why!
teraiin-I can be the same way about symptoms. My brain knows logically it is too early but my heart wants to hope!
YAY! Crossing everything for you this cycle!
Thanks!!! We are actually really hopeful for the first time!
Post by meerkatmillie on Mar 14, 2015 10:22:48 GMT -5
cateyes So glad to hear the letrozole worked and you O'd! PiradicalMaid Good luck tomorrow testing, FX for you Sparkly I miss you! I hope the time TTA passes quickly
Cycle/Month: 7/6
CD/DPO: 15/2 (No crosshairs yet, but I expect they'll be there tomorrow. And the 2WW is surprisingly empty this morning so wanted to help repopulate it)
Timing: -3, -2, -1, O
Testing Date/Plans: Tuesday, 3/24 (12DPO)
Rants, Raves, Chart Stalks:
RAVE-- With all this time TTC under my belt, I've gained so much knowledge both from you ladies here and from my obsessive data searching loops on the internet. To show for it, I now have a biphasic temp chart that makes it easy to see O and predict my period, truly positive OPKs instead of almost positive OPKs, a diagnosed Vitamin D insufficiency that I supplement for now, the strength to hold out on testing too early, and a bunch of other knowledge about fertility in general.
RANT-- Even though I'm thankful for all that knowledge and I know theres more out there to learn, I'm getting tired. I don't want to be stuck in the TTC phase for a long time. And now that we're past the 6 cycle mark with well timed intercource each cycle, I'm less hopeful about our chances of getting knocked up naturally without further testing or intervention. I guess I don't really have any choice, just got to hang in there.
GTKY: Food and wine class in college. That "subject" was the best. I even briefly considered switching my major to Hotel Management just to be able to take more classes like that
meerkatmillie-I totally get that it can be hard when the months tick by! For some encouragement check out some of the recent BFPs! Many of them were in months like 8 or 10 so don't give up hope!!! It can totally happen!
TWW SaturdayMar 14, 2015 10:28:42 GMT -5via mobile
Post by Sparkly on Mar 14, 2015 10:28:42 GMT -5
meerkatmillie I'm still hanging out in WTO right now, even though we're TTA...and obviously lurking here. It keeps me distracted! I'm sorry you're feeling tired and less hopeful with the TTC process. I hope this TWW goes quickly and FX it's your BFP cycle!
meerkatmillie-I totally get that it can be hard when the months tick by! For some encouragement check out some of the recent BFPs! Many of them were in months like 8 or 10 so don't give up hope!!! It can totally happen!
I agree with this! It was reassuring to see all of the 10th month BFPs. I think we all tend to feel like something is wrong half way in but they are proof that it can happen even at the end of that year trying.
TWW SaturdayMar 14, 2015 10:37:09 GMT -5via mobile
Post by ceejay on Mar 14, 2015 10:37:09 GMT -5
I felt the same way about hitting month 6, meerkatmillie! It's hard to stay optimistic but there definitely is still hope. FX that this is your cycle!!!
Cycle/month: 6/6
CD/DPO: 24/9
Timing: High per FF
Testing plans: Only if I make it to 13 DPO.
R/R/CS: I'm usually symptom spotting by this point but so far I feel nothing in terms of possible pregnancy symptoms or PMS. Hopefully that's a good thing!
GTKY: What was your favorite school subject? Math was always my best and favorite subject until high school when I started liking science a lot too. I wasn't interested in a career in math so I majored in Biochemistry in college and decided to be a scientist!
meerkatmillie-I totally get that it can be hard when the months tick by! For some encouragement check out some of the recent BFPs! Many of them were in months like 8 or 10 so don't give up hope!!! It can totally happen!
I agree with this! It was reassuring to see all of the 10th month BFPs. I think we all tend to feel like something is wrong half way in but they are proof that it can happen even at the end of that year trying.
I agree, I especially love seeing BFPs after cycle 6; its very encouraging!
I haven't given up hope. However, there are also some articles out there like this (credit to mugster - I love you for finding this) that give some reason to possibly be concerned after 6 cycles with well timed intercourse. Here's a snippet of that article: "Most of the pregnancies occur in the first six cycles with intercourse in the fertile phase (80%). After that, serious subfertility must be assumed in every second couple (10%) although—after 12 unsuccessful cycles—untreated live birth rates among them will reach nearly 55% in the next 36 months. Thereafter (48 months), ∼5% of the couples are definitive infertile with a nearly zero chance of becoming spontaneously pregnant in the future. With age, cumulative probabilities of conception decline because heterogeneity in fecundity increases due to a higher proportion of infertile couples. In truly fertile couples cumulative probabilities of conception are probably age independent. Under appropriate circumstances a basic infertility work-up after six unsuccessful cycles with fertility-focused intercourse will identify couples with significant infertility problems to avoid both infertility under- and over-treatment, regardless of age: Couples with a reasonably good prognosis (e.g. unexplained infertility) may be encouraged to wait because even with treatment they do not have a better chance of conceiving. The others may benefit from an early resort to assisted reproduction treatment."
meerkatmillie - Cycle 8 hit me the hardest but I continue to stay positive. Even with my screwed up chart. I stay away from medical publications because they make me overanalyze and worry. I have several health issues but nothing that they can directly connect to infertility. At 31, I have a few more months before I can see an RE; but i remain hopeful there won't be a need. These recent 8-10 month BFPs have been very encouraging.
I agree with this! It was reassuring to see all of the 10th month BFPs. I think we all tend to feel like something is wrong half way in but they are proof that it can happen even at the end of that year trying.
I agree, I especially love seeing BFPs after cycle 6; its very encouraging!
I haven't given up hope. However, there are also some articles out there like this (credit to mugster - I love you for finding this) that give some reason to possibly be concerned after 6 cycles with well timed intercourse. Here's a snippet of that article: "Most of the pregnancies occur in the first six cycles with intercourse in the fertile phase (80%). After that, serious subfertility must be assumed in every second couple (10%) although—after 12 unsuccessful cycles—untreated live birth rates among them will reach nearly 55% in the next 36 months. Thereafter (48 months), ∼5% of the couples are definitive infertile with a nearly zero chance of becoming spontaneously pregnant in the future. With age, cumulative probabilities of conception decline because heterogeneity in fecundity increases due to a higher proportion of infertile couples. In truly fertile couples cumulative probabilities of conception are probably age independent. Under appropriate circumstances a basic infertility work-up after six unsuccessful cycles with fertility-focused intercourse will identify couples with significant infertility problems to avoid both infertility under- and over-treatment, regardless of age: Couples with a reasonably good prognosis (e.g. unexplained infertility) may be encouraged to wait because even with treatment they do not have a better chance of conceiving. The others may benefit from an early resort to assisted reproduction treatment."
But if you haven't gotten pregnant at 6 months, you have a roughly 50-50 chance of getting pregnant in the next 6 months, and if you haven't gotten pregnant in 12 months, you still have a 55% chance of getting pregnant in the following three years even if untreated. I'm not saying the article isn't scary, but it isn't dire either.
Testing plans: Trying to hold out until Tuesday....
R/R/CS: I checked the mail this morning and was hit with a $2,000 bill--apparently my insurance company has decided not to pay anything at all for the D&C after my miscarriage. ASSHOLES! Of course, the company is closed on weekends so I have to wait until Monday so that I can call and rip somebody a new one. I'm trying to wrap my mind around the idea that my procedure was "out of network" even though it was performed by my own ob/gyn at the clinic where I have my annual exams and where I was having my prenatal appointments. Strange....
Me: 35 DH: 47 Married October 2014 TTC since October 2014 BFP #1 on 10/29/14, EDD 7/3/15 MMC detected 12/19/14 at 12w (baby measured 7w3d), D&C on 12/22/14 BFP # 2 on 3/16/15, EDD 11/25/15 MMC detected 4/20/15 at 8w5d (baby measured 6w1dy Myomectomy in August 2015.
mugster - I agree, the numbers look scary, but they aren't dire. You will see similar findings in studies on all sorts of different subjects. It's a given that the longer you try to do anything without achieving positive results, the smaller the chance of your success becomes. However, I will gladly take a 55% chance over no chance at all. Edit: words
mugster - I agree, the numbers look scary, but they aren't dire. You will see similar findings in studies on all sorts of different subjects. It's a given that the longer you try to do anything without achieving positive results, the smaller the chance of your success becomes. However, I will gladly take a 55% chance over no chance at all. Edit: words
I agree. Yes the percentage of people who GKU between 6-12 months is less but it is not like fertility fatal. Don't trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.
kesha14 - insurance companies are a pain in the butt. i spent half the morning arguing about approval for medication I have been taking for several years. It was $600 for 30 days without insurance. That's not an option.
mugster - I agree, the numbers look scary, but they aren't dire. You will see similar findings in studies on all sorts of different subjects. It's a given that the longer you try to do anything without achieving positive results, the smaller the chance of your success becomes. However, I will gladly take a 55% chance over no chance at all. Edit: words
I'm not sure if this study would make you feel better: <<link>>
Weirdly for me, it helps. I used to take that 25% number and run probability's of not being pregnant after x months... If you do that, it looks like you have a problem very fast... These numbers seem closer to reality (at least my reality)... If you take say, the 16% number, mathematically after 8 months 25% of people still won't be pregnant, and your monthly odds don't slip too much until you are over the year mark if you are in your 20s or 30s.
mugster - I agree, the numbers look scary, but they aren't dire. You will see similar findings in studies on all sorts of different subjects. It's a given that the longer you try to do anything without achieving positive results, the smaller the chance of your success becomes. However, I will gladly take a 55% chance over no chance at all. Edit: words
I'm not sure if this study would make you feel better: <<link>>
Weirdly for me, it helps. I used to take that 25% number and run probability's of not being pregnant after x months... If you do that, it looks like you have a problem very fast... These numbers seem closer to reality (at least my reality)... If you take say, the 16% number, mathematically after 8 months 25% of people still won't be pregnant, and your monthly odds don't slip too much until you are over the year mark if you are in your 20s or 30s.
Ive seen that somewhere before. I wish I could remember. I try not to focus on percentages. Mostly because I am surrounded by women who conceived within the first month or as of a result of bc failure. In fact, only one of my coworkers knew what charting was. ETA: I work predominately with women. There is one guy in the entire building and he works in a different department.
Same-Sex Couple TTC Baby #1
Married: 5/31/13 ❤️
Jan 2015 - Cancelled cycle due to immature follicles
Feb 2015 - IUI #1 (Letrozole) - BFN
March 2015 - Cancelled cycle due to early ovulation
April 2015 - Letrozole, Trigger Shot, IUI - BFN
GKU May Siggy Challenge: SomeECard
Testing plans: RE recommended betas or HPT on 3/23, so I'll probably POAS to start...it's cheaper!
R/R/CS: DH is working second shift this upcoming week, and I'm not looking forward to it. I know I could have it much much worse, but it's going to throw our routine off quite a bit for a few days.
GTKY: What was your favorite school subject? Biology. Any of the sciences, really, but I love plants and animals.
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