I have never dyed all of my hair. I love my natural color. I recently dyed the underside red for a pop of color and to switch it up, but I'd never dye my whole head. I also think it's wayyy too much upkeep when you start dying it.
My mom and sister have never dyed their hair either. We're all blonde!
I just dyed my whole head for the first time its purple and a couple sades of pink and black. I never used to because I love my color too. Then when I finally wanted to start experimenting I couldnt because it was against work policy so when I quit I went all out with it.
I don't care either. I think it's perfectly fine to post a question on the main board. I just know that's not the general consensus here, because when newbs do it, they get told to go post in TWW or WTO.
Right . . . and I don't think that's right.
Here, I agree with you. But what you have to understand is that that rule originated over at TD, where we had a lot more members coming and going, and if we didn't call people out on breaking that rule, the main board would be constantly flooded with questions about CM and PreSeed and god knows what else.
Here, I agree with you. But what you have to understand is that that rule originated over at TD, where we had a lot more members coming and going, and if we didn't call people out on breaking that rule, the main board would be constantly flooded with questions about CM and PreSeed and god knows what else.
Maybe we could start a question thread that is daily/weekly (but keeps going through the week)? That way, people can just post their questions and get answers in the same place. It may force them to look at other questions and see that their question/answer is already there. That cuts out the tons of different threads but people still get to ask their questions.
You can post anything at all in the random thread. And you don't need to drink to participate in a drinking thread. Those are the two go-to places for conversation. If you have a question about TTC or your cycle, you can post in WTO or TWW. I don't think any of that is too restrictive.
If I have a question but don't typically participate in those two threads I'm not going to go in there to ask a question. That's dumb. Those threads are rarely read by people that don't participate and the people that typically participate are new and don't tend to have as much to offer. Asking everyone to post in those threads is definitely restrictive.
True. I think a lot of it is me not wanting the board to get boring. We don't have the same amount of incoming traffic as TD. I'm afraid that as members of the board get their BFPs and migrate to BMBs the board will get boring.
FFTC: I already think the board is starting to get boring.
So, since I'm newer, I am curious. What are some stories from the past that were interesting? Like, what did people do that didn't make you yawn?
I've only been posting since November, so it's not like I know much about "the good ol' days" or anything like that. And it's hard to put my finger on the difference, but I'll give it a go.
I think when you have this massive long randoms thread, it often ends up being a lot of PWing back and forth between the same set of posters. I know it's titled "Randoms" and so that fits the definition...But a lot of times, the stuff that could actually warrant it's own thread and discussion gets lost in the endless pages of musings. Anyone who stumbles across a worthwhile subject on page 2 probably isn't going to address it if the thread is already up to 12 pages.
What's funny is that back on The Place Which Must Not Be Named, there wasn't a randoms thread every single day or a drinking thread every single night and it still seemed to be much more bustling than present day. I think maybe people posted more quality over quantity?
Of course, that's just my two cents on the matter.
If I have a question but don't typically participate in those two threads I'm not going to go in there to ask a question. That's dumb. Those threads are rarely read by people that don't participate and the people that typically participate are new and don't tend to have as much to offer. Asking everyone to post in those threads is definitely restrictive.
Here, I agree with you. But what you have to understand is that that rule originated over at TD, where we had a lot more members coming and going, and if we didn't call people out on breaking that rule, the main board would be constantly flooded with questions about CM and PreSeed and god knows what else.
Maybe we could start a question thread that is daily/weekly (but keeps going through the week)? That way, people can just post their questions and get answers in the same place. It may force them to look at other questions and see that their question/answer is already there. That cuts out the tons of different threads but people still get to ask their questions.
We've got this already. The Newbie Playdate thread.
Here, I agree with you. But what you have to understand is that that rule originated over at TD, where we had a lot more members coming and going, and if we didn't call people out on breaking that rule, the main board would be constantly flooded with questions about CM and PreSeed and god knows what else.
I think that part of the problem is that there is a lot of fear that if anyone allows any leeway in that "rule" here on GKU it's going to turn into the dump. Because we have less traffic that has resulted in less threads.
It's the same thing with what anonymouseliza (I think that was you) said earlier about the 6/12 month rule. I think there is the concern that if you make an exception for a legitimate problem everyone is going to start assuming they can and should go see an RE sooner.
Maybe we could start a question thread that is daily/weekly (but keeps going through the week)? That way, people can just post their questions and get answers in the same place. It may force them to look at other questions and see that their question/answer is already there. That cuts out the tons of different threads but people still get to ask their questions.
We've got this already. The Newbie Playdate thread.
I didn't realize that that's what that was actually for. Whoops! Disregard my comments then
I've only been posting since November, so it's not like I know much about "the good ol' days" or anything like that. And it's hard to put my finger on the difference, but I'll give it a go.
I think when you have this massive long randoms thread, it often ends up being a lot of PWing back and forth between the same set of posters. I know it's titled "Randoms" and so that fits the definition...But a lot of times, the stuff that could actually warrant it's own thread and discussion gets lost in the endless pages of musings. Anyone who stumbles across a worthwhile subject on page 2 probably isn't going to address it if the thread is already up to 12 pages.
What's funny is that back on The Place Which Must Not Be Named, there wasn't a randoms thread every single day or a drinking thread every single night and it still seemed to be much more bustling than present day. I think maybe people posted more quality over quantity?
Of course, that's just my two cents on the matter.
Thanks for answering! I like the bolded above; I think that makes sense.
I've only been posting since November, so it's not like I know much about "the good ol' days" or anything like that. And it's hard to put my finger on the difference, but I'll give it a go.
I think when you have this massive long randoms thread, it often ends up being a lot of PWing back and forth between the same set of posters. I know it's titled "Randoms" and so that fits the definition...But a lot of times, the stuff that could actually warrant it's own thread and discussion gets lost in the endless pages of musings. Anyone who stumbles across a worthwhile subject on page 2 probably isn't going to address it if the thread is already up to 12 pages.
What's funny is that back on The Place Which Must Not Be Named, there wasn't a randoms thread every single day or a drinking thread every single night and it still seemed to be much more bustling than present day. I think maybe people posted more quality over quantity?
Of course, that's just my two cents on the matter.
Thanks for answering! I like the bolded above; I think that makes sense.
I second this. I also think people have been scared away from starting threads like this because they are then told that it could have gone in a drinking or random thread. Sometimes it's true and sometimes it's not. Like I was saying before, I think there is huge concern that this place is going to turn into a bunch of drive by posts like on TD and so people are being a lot stricter about that sort of thing here on GKU.
If I have a question but don't typically participate in those two threads I'm not going to go in there to ask a question. That's dumb. Those threads are rarely read by people that don't participate and the people that typically participate are new and don't tend to have as much to offer. Asking everyone to post in those threads is definitely restrictive.
I participated for the first 6 months I was here, and the only reason I don't now is because I'm not temping again yet. I read the TWW thread almost daily. What would you suggest as an alternative, if people shouldn't be expected to post their questions there?
I don't participate unless I have new information. I don't want to post the same thing everyday just for the sake of upping my post count.
We've got this already. The Newbie Playdate thread.
I didn't realize that that's what that was actually for. Whoops! Disregard my comments then
And again . . . that's sort of the problem. There is an accepted way of doing things that is NOT apparent to someone joining in from the outside and if the immediate response is to beat down a question for not being in the right thread, traffic will continue to be slower while people figure out where to post.
Perhaps the thread starters need to make clear that anyone can jump or who the thread is intended for. But I think more threads would actually increase traffic.
And just more posts generally about non-gku things. There are very few of those, but the ones that appear are always highly viewed and frequently highly responded to as well.
Here, I agree with you. But what you have to understand is that that rule originated over at TD, where we had a lot more members coming and going, and if we didn't call people out on breaking that rule, the main board would be constantly flooded with questions about CM and PreSeed and god knows what else.
whats wrong with CM questions? I love seeing other people CM.
I didn't realize that that's what that was actually for. Whoops! Disregard my comments then
And again . . . that's sort of the problem. There is an accepted way of doing things that is NOT apparent to someone joining in from the outside and if the immediate response is to beat down a question for not being in the right thread, traffic will continue to be slower while people figure out where to post.
Perhaps the thread starters need to make clear that anyone can jump or who the thread is intended for. But I think more threads would actually increase traffic.
And just more posts generally about non-gku things. There are very few of those, but the ones that appear are always highly viewed and frequently highly responded to as well.
Agreed. I was simply pointing out that the type of thread she mentioned is something we already do. But I know it's definitely not readily apparent that it's a general questions thread. Maybe it should be retitled something along those lines, so that even regs with questions know they can go in there.
I didn't realize that that's what that was actually for. Whoops! Disregard my comments then
And again . . . that's sort of the problem. There is an accepted way of doing things that is NOT apparent to someone joining in from the outside and if the immediate response is to beat down a question for not being in the right thread, traffic will continue to be slower while people figure out where to post.
Perhaps the thread starters need to make clear that anyone can jump or who the thread is intended for. But I think more threads would actually increase traffic.
And just more posts generally about non-gku things. There are very few of those, but the ones that appear are always highly viewed and frequently highly responded to as well.
See, that's the thing. "Newbie play date" sounds like a place for just new people versus a general question/answer session. I can imagine that even after ttc for 6+ months you would STILL have questions and are not a "newbie". It would be nice to have a question/answer that is read by ALL people, especially since then you would have pros in there giving great advice.
And again . . . that's sort of the problem. There is an accepted way of doing things that is NOT apparent to someone joining in from the outside and if the immediate response is to beat down a question for not being in the right thread, traffic will continue to be slower while people figure out where to post.
Perhaps the thread starters need to make clear that anyone can jump or who the thread is intended for. But I think more threads would actually increase traffic.
And just more posts generally about non-gku things. There are very few of those, but the ones that appear are always highly viewed and frequently highly responded to as well.
See, that's the thing. "Newbie play date" sounds like a place for just new people versus a general question/answer session. I can imagine that even after ttc for 6+ months you would STILL have questions and are not a "newbie". It would be nice to have a question/answer that is read by ALL people, especially since then you would have pros in there giving great advice.
I know a number of regs go into the Newbie thread to answer questions and give advice. But like I just posted, I think it's not a bad idea to change the name of this thread to reflect more of a general Q&A session thing, instead of a place for newbies.
My UO- zombies are stupid. I can't get on board with any zombie movies or TV and am unsure why people even mention zombie apocalypse as being funny. The Walking Dead is stupid.
Flame away. Maybe a zombie will eat my brains.
+1 I think zombies are over done! We need to "Let it Go!"
I've only been posting since November, so it's not like I know much about "the good ol' days" or anything like that. And it's hard to put my finger on the difference, but I'll give it a go.
I think when you have this massive long randoms thread, it often ends up being a lot of PWing back and forth between the same set of posters. I know it's titled "Randoms" and so that fits the definition...But a lot of times, the stuff that could actually warrant it's own thread and discussion gets lost in the endless pages of musings. Anyone who stumbles across a worthwhile subject on page 2 probably isn't going to address it if the thread is already up to 12 pages.
What's funny is that back on The Place Which Must Not Be Named, there wasn't a randoms thread every single day or a drinking thread every single night and it still seemed to be much more bustling than present day. I think maybe people posted more quality over quantity?
Of course, that's just my two cents on the matter.
From a newbie standpoint, I totally agree with the above. In regards to the randon and drinking threads, I know you aren't expected to read the whole thing before jumping in. However, if I see something on page 2 that I want to reply to but the thread is already 15 pages long, it feels kind of pointless to respond. 10 other people may have already addressed whatever it is you want to say, you could be beating a dead horse, or something BSC could have gone down and your reply will look ridiculous.
Starting new threads also feels a bit scary. There are so many times you see other posters told it is not the correct place to ask their question so you feel like you really have to think and ensure that whatever you've asked hasn't been asked recently, that it's in the correct place, that you did a search on it before asking, etc. These are all good guidelines and I'm not saying we shouldn't have them! I'm just saying it can be intimidating- but, that's what lurking is for.
See, that's the thing. "Newbie play date" sounds like a place for just new people versus a general question/answer session. I can imagine that even after ttc for 6+ months you would STILL have questions and are not a "newbie". It would be nice to have a question/answer that is read by ALL people, especially since then you would have pros in there giving great advice.
I know a number of regs go into the Newbie thread to answer questions and give advice. But like I just posted, I think it's not a bad idea to change the name of this thread to reflect more of a general Q&A session thing, instead of a place for newbies.
Haha I know, I think we posted about the same time. I saw your post after I had clicked to create mine. My student's were being a-holes so it took a minute (they're doing independent work and don't need me).
I participated for the first 6 months I was here, and the only reason I don't now is because I'm not temping again yet. I read the TWW thread almost daily. What would you suggest as an alternative, if people shouldn't be expected to post their questions there?
I don't participate unless I have new information. I don't want to post the same thing everyday just for the sake of upping my post count.
I've only been posting since November, so it's not like I know much about "the good ol' days" or anything like that. And it's hard to put my finger on the difference, but I'll give it a go.
I think when you have this massive long randoms thread, it often ends up being a lot of PWing back and forth between the same set of posters. I know it's titled "Randoms" and so that fits the definition...But a lot of times, the stuff that could actually warrant it's own thread and discussion gets lost in the endless pages of musings. Anyone who stumbles across a worthwhile subject on page 2 probably isn't going to address it if the thread is already up to 12 pages.
What's funny is that back on The Place Which Must Not Be Named, there wasn't a randoms thread every single day or a drinking thread every single night and it still seemed to be much more bustling than present day. I think maybe people posted more quality over quantity?
Of course, that's just my two cents on the matter.
From a newbie standpoint, I totally agree with the above. In regards to the randon and drinking threads, I know you aren't expected to read the whole thing before jumping in. However, if I see something on page 2 that I want to reply to but the thread is already 15 pages long, it feels kind of pointless to respond. 10 other people may have already addressed whatever it is you want to say, you could be beating a dead horse, or something BSC could have gone down and your reply will look ridiculous.
Starting new threads also feels a bit scary. There are so many times you see other posters told it is not the correct place to ask their question so you feel like you really have to think and ensure that whatever you've asked hasn't been asked recently, that it's in the correct place, that you did a search on it before asking, etc. These are all good guidelines and I'm not saying we shouldn't have them! I'm just saying it can be intimidating- but, that's what lurking is for.
And I fucking hate that mentality.
If there are 3 posts on the front page about CM and you ask another that is similar to them, yeah, annoying. Point to the threads in progress because it's been covered recently.
Sending people to the check in threads with legit questions is rude and stupid. Things get buried in those threads so easily and it doesn't make sense for someone with a question that hasn't been asked recently and that might even apply to someone else to bury it in a free-for-all check in.
There was once upon a time when people asked questions in a check-in they were directed to the main board so more people could not only answer it, but see it as well. If a question gets asked in the TWW thread someone that is WTO won't see it and may have the same concerns in a week. If it was on the main board they might see it and already know what's up.
I would rather cost people a shit ton of money than have a bunch of dead teenagers. I understand your point and I am trying to see your point of view as well. I think we can both agree there is a problem and I am not sure what the solution is, and possibly you have more experience in this area. I brought it up because I wanted to hear what others had to say, and I apologize if I sounded ignorant. I did like @erin2021's idea about the DE being extra credit. Maybe that could be an incentive for people who will be driving to want to take it.
Someone that is already living on a tight budget isn't going to agree with you. How nice that you have extra money you can spare.
I don't think there is a problem with how driver's ed is handled. It's not the cure all for shitty drivers that you seem to think it is.
My family couldn't have afforded that growing up! Also SIL took driver's Ed and since then has gone through 10 cars. 5 accidents (she swears were not her fault) and 4 cars where "they were bad" (not that she took care of them properly) and 1 repossessed. I couldn't afford driver's ed. Got a 100% on permit test, took a few driving classes and passed my driving test no problem. I've been driving 12 years, no accidents, still on my 1st car, not even a parking ticket. Driver's Ed can only teach you, but they cannot predict how well you'll drive or what habits you pick up along the way.
Post by bunnyfungo on Mar 19, 2015 13:09:29 GMT -5
Guys, if I started a separate thread about board culture do you think it would help to have a discussion about all these "rules" that seem to be getting in the way of participation? I'd love to find a way to get everyone on the same page, so if a discussion about it would help, I'd love to do that. I just done want it to devolve into "new rules". What say you?
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