New Apology from Voldemort

[bluejoan]

Did anyone see the new apology posted about excluding members of the community in the original apology?  What are your thoughts?

I read it and feel like it's too little too late.  They purposely excluded a number of boards and members and if they had done their research properly they wouldn't have excluded us.  

IF/TTTC/LOSS are isolating life events and we all came together to form a solid community and we were isolated again and it hurts.  I said I'd be a dual member but it's hard to do right now.  

[k1111k]

Gag me.

[lemonliz]

I saw it, too. It felt disingenuous. Like they are just responding to criticism and working on damage control. The fact that they did not notice the omission of the IF/loss groups before it had to be pointed out to them is just indicative of the (lack of) regard they hold for the "community" there.

Truth is, the community never belonged to them. They were just the scaffolding, as evidenced by the evolution of this forum.

[sammae]

I read it and was all "womp womp". It sounded so much like apologizing for something while rolling your eyes.

Today, I only lurked on Voldemort twice. It's getting fewer and further between. And I just can't bring myself to post there. I dunno how this whole "dual citizenship" thing is going to pan out. It feels so cozy over here now and so cold and out in the open over there.

[bluefairy5]

Not to be a grammar fetishist, but this sentence structure betrays something to me: <<We excluded important groups of people including those found on the Infertility board as well as those who are unable to have children of their own, trying to conceive and who have experienced child loss.>>

"trying to conceive." Honestly, they can't even get their two-paragraph "apology" out without leaving out the words "having trouble." I know I'm nitpicking, but come ON. Proofread your work.

I think I'm pretty much down for the FF check-in leadership over there now, and that's gonna be about it.

[remylove1011]

It is stupid as fuck. That is my opinion of it. Way to right a short and crappy apology!

[hrushka]

Yeah, I was really underwhelmed by it. Disingenuous is exactly how it felt to me, too. I didn't sense any real understanding in that post, and so it didn't mean much to me.

[Ann612]

Jan 19, 2015 22:01:47 GMT -5 sammae said:

I read it and was all "womp womp". It sounded so much like apologizing for something while rolling your eyes.

Today, I only lurked on Voldemort twice. It's getting fewer and further between. And I just can't bring myself to post there. I dunno how this whole "dual citizenship" thing is going to pan out. It feels so cozy over here now and so cold and out in the open over there.

Also, it's pretty lame over there.  I swore I heard crickets.

lemonliz you hit the nail on the head

[durham1008]

It seemed pretty lame to me. Especially since it was still a closed announcement.

[tptbabe]

What I don't get, is that they said that they excluded certain people, but are only counting the community "labels". Not the members within them. They think they offended an inanimate object, not the people who actually provided the support? How can they say that they feel bad for excluding people in these groups, when they banned people within them?

[LavishPeach]

I miss everything being so many hours ahead!

Just woke up and saw this posting, so high-tailed it over to the other place to see the apology for myself. Underwhelming is right firstbbq. And lemonliz definitely hit the nail on the head with disingenuous.

I feel like they are just trying to sweep us under the rug.

[bandm14]

LavishPeach I'm on EST but apparently my brain is on Slovakia time with you. Couldn't sleep so I'm GBCBing. That was a really half-assed apology, IMO. Did anyone else find it ironic that the Voldemort representative posting that has a pregnant avatar? ::eye roll::

[christieh917]

When I read the original post I had noticed that they did not refer to our groups at all. I was offended from that point on. It really bothers me that all of the discussions are closed. You can't even say anything about what they say.

The apology was half hearted. It just proves to me that they don't care. I am happy to be over here with the people that care and really understand.

[laurensc927]

Definitely too little too late. If you knew anything about your boards they never would have been excluded in the first place.

[deelopi9]

I'm all for giving people/situations a second chance and to be honest it's too little too late.

[bluejello]

Lame. And very belated. I don't even lurk over there, I don't want them getting revenue from my clicks. I get the reasons for people having dual citizenship, and I think it's admirable, I just can't do it. They just don't get it, and this is all damage control.

[bluejoan]

I've thought about this all night. I think the only way I can stay a dual citizen for now is to check on Rumbera from time to time. I can't support a company that treats it's members as expendable items and then closes any discussion about it.

[lindy04aggie]

That's it? What a terrible excuse for an apology. Y'all are right... all that is is damage control. I've been holding dual citizenship, but I don't know if that will continue. I think most of the regs migrated over here... and this new community feels like "normal."

[bootsorhearts]

Oh I'm confused. They previously stated they were in the process of 'replacing' their members. I assumed that meant IF and loss moms since they didn't mention us the first time.



Also, they STILL have not explained why they randomly banned people and refuse to unban them.

[NariaDreaming]

Jan 20, 2015 11:11:40 GMT -5 @buttmonkey said:

I've just been lurking over there once a day or so. I'm very much leaning to just popping in to check on Rumbera too from time to time, but I really am done with actively posting there. I won't delete my account (unless I get around to C&P some of my posts in Word for posterity), but I think Rumbera and maybe one or two others are there permanently at this point right? I also don't want to give them clicky revenue, but I will definitely need to check on the few girls left as I don't want to abandon them. Their apologies are bullshit.

Rumbera is there unless they fully clean house and permanently de-mod her as well.

Who else is there permanently? I can try and drag them over

[kensie5226]

I agree that it felt disingenuous as well. The more I lurk around over there, the more I don't think I can do it. It give me too much anxiety to be a part of the community at this time. I want to help out, the way y'all helped me, but it makes me feel sad to be there.

[tumbleweed]

I haven't been able to bring myself to go read their "apology" -- I'm sure it's going to make me mad. I think I'll read it after my ER on Friday.

[daydreamsam]

I saw it last night and it made me ragey so I decided that I'd had enough of the internet for the night.

I thought, that's it? It took them 3-4 days to come up with that? Not only was it disingenuous but it seemed forced. I definitely expected more.

I had been waiting for that "apology" before making up my mind about whether or not I was going to hold dual citizenship. They made up my mind for me.

[ldubhawksfan]

That apology was so disingenuous. The TTCAL board is pretty disappointed in it too. Too little, too late.

[bluefairy5]

Jan 20, 2015 12:13:01 GMT -5 daydreamsam said:

I saw it last night and it made me ragey so I decided that I'd had enough of the internet for the night.

I thought, that's it? It took them 3-4 days to come up with that? Not only was it disingenuous but it seemed forced. I definitely expected more.

I had been waiting for that "apology" before making up my mind about whether or not I was going to hold dual citizenship. They made up my mind for me.

THIS. I'd been thinking, "Oh, it's the weekend, surely they want to take the appropriate time on a weekday if they're drafting a thoughtful response. That's probably the reason for the delay." HAHA, NOPE. They could've had an intern from NYU write that and toss it up on a Saturday

[lillee]

What gets me is that they didn't even spend time personalizing it to each board. They just wrote on generic statement and C&P to a few boards.

[SweetieShellie]

This was posted on 3T 10 minutes ago:

"We created the community platform for you and we support you and your right to share your thoughts, feelings and advice. We know how much it helps to talk (virtually) with someone who may be sharing in the same experiences. And thanks to community members like you--who come together in support, knowledge-share and friendship--The Bump community continues to thrive and our membership grows stronger and stronger every day.

Recently, certain members violated the site’s Terms of Use by posting malicious profanity and harassing and pornographic content directed at members. In an effort to keep our community safe, those few members who were in clear violation of the Terms of Use were banned. The Bump has been exploring several possible scenarios in order to ensure this type of behavior never happens again.

To keep up with an ever-growing community, the site will be introducing professional moderators. We cherish and value our moderators and want them to remain vibrant and celebrated members. The new mods at The Bump will be available 24/7. They will continue to encourage friendly and positive community participation, mentor groups, manage thoughtful and judicious handling of abuse reports and disagreements in the community, and, ultimately, make sure you have the best community experience."

[daydreamsam]

Jan 20, 2015 15:59:30 GMT -5 SweetieShellie said:

This was posted on 3T 10 minutes ago:

"We created the community platform for you and we support you and your right to share your thoughts, feelings and advice. We know how much it helps to talk (virtually) with someone who may be sharing in the same experiences. And thanks to community members like you--who come together in support, knowledge-share and friendship--The Bump community continues to thrive and our membership grows stronger and stronger every day.

Recently, certain members violated the site’s Terms of Use by posting malicious profanity and harassing and pornographic content directed at members. In an effort to keep our community safe, those few members who were in clear violation of the Terms of Use were banned. The Bump has been exploring several possible scenarios in order to ensure this type of behavior never happens again.

To keep up with an ever-growing community, the site will be introducing professional moderators. We cherish and value our moderators and want them to remain vibrant and celebrated members. The new mods at The Bump will be available 24/7. They will continue to encourage friendly and positive community participation, mentor groups, manage thoughtful and judicious handling of abuse reports and disagreements in the community, and, ultimately, make sure you have the best community experience."

JFC, they just need to stop. At this point, they are only doing more harm. Yeah, we'll totally come back because you are introducing "professional moderators." WE LIKED OUR MODERATOR AND YOU BANNED HER, VOLDEMORT! And I love how they lumped together the members that were banned for posting porn, with the moderators. Nice. Grrr, they make me stabby!

[bluejoan]

They are systematically making the bump like google and disregarding the community that was built by us. I would tell everyone who asked where my support group was, now I will redirect them.

[cinzink]

daydreamsam - lmao, they make me stabby is the best way to describe my feelings for voldemort as well. Thank you!