Hump Day randoms!

[piccyami]

Mar 25, 2015 10:33:46 GMT -5 teraiin said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:31:02 GMT -5 piccyami said:

I went for the one over the zip because the one has a rechargeable battery.  It also does elevation and sleep.  When I'm actually in the mood, it gets me motivated to hit my goals.  It does show me how little I'm actually moving.

Oh I never even thought about batteries, that's a good point!

It would take a really long time to actually burn through $40 of batteries, so it's just more of a convenience thing.  I hate changing batteries.  I also prefer the ones on your waist/bra because it's a more accurate representation of how many steps you take.  The ones on your wrist record how active your wrist is.

[joy]

Mar 25, 2015 10:28:52 GMT -5 rablissful said:

So mono is now going around my school. I have two students with it. Awesome.

Luckily, I've already had it. And I don't share drinks or saliva (grooooosss) with my students.

Fun fact: Mono is caused by EBV.  Almost 90% of the world becomes infected with EBV and the virus remains with you for life.  When it happens in children, you just get a fever and are over it in a few days.  When you get later in life, it causes mono.

Mono is rather rare in less industrialized countries - almost all children catch it while young.

[negirl824]

Mar 25, 2015 10:37:14 GMT -5 onesweetworld said:

negirl824 missed you! Glad to see you on here.

Yea I haven't been able to keep up much on here like I would like to. Life has been a little crazy! 

[teraiin]

Mar 25, 2015 10:33:54 GMT -5 onesweetworld said:

@wickedcandy hospitals are no fun. T&Ps with all.

teraiin I do. I got it a week and a half ago. I like it, I mainly got it to track sleep. I bought the flex activity + sleep in pink I like it because it's not giant.

Is it annoying to wear it on your wrist all the time? I have to 'dress up' at work and I feel like it might stick out...

[GoBigOrGoGnome]

Mar 25, 2015 10:18:52 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:15:16 GMT -5 mugster said:

At the same time, I get super-skeeved out by cheap chicken. If it costs $2.00 a pound, I'm concerned.

There are sometimes where I can't afford to be skeeved out. It's either I buy the chicken and we eat that week or we go hungry.

This is the majority of people. Most people buy milk, meat, and eggs based on price and expiration date. Not many people can really afford to worry about whether it is organic or conventional. I've been inside meat processing plants, I know how the animals are slaughtered, I know more about milk than any human should, I know the differences between organic, all-natural, and conventional, I've been on both types of farms, and I purchase whatever is cheapest when I go to the store. I feel like that should say a lot. If I have the choice, I will choose the option that is NOT organic. 

What kills me about the whole thing is that folks think organic=healthier and that just isn't true. It sounds great it's a great marketing ploy, but that's really all it is. There are people in the world, in this country, even, that would kill to have access to meat, milk, and eggs and they wouldn't give a rat's ass how it was produced. If all farms switched to organic methods of production tomorrow, millions of people would go hungry. Newsflash: organic =/= sustainable. You can't feed the world with organic production.

I am way too passionate about this, but I just wish people understood the choices that they make. I had to take a typing class in middle school, I had to take foreign language in HS, among other required classes. Why aren't people required to know where their food comes from and how it is produced? I don't get it. 

Sorry for the tangent!

[onesweetworld]

Mar 25, 2015 10:39:08 GMT -5 teraiin said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:33:54 GMT -5 onesweetworld said:

@wickedcandy hospitals are no fun. T&Ps with all.

teraiin I do. I got it a week and a half ago. I like it, I mainly got it to track sleep. I bought the flex activity + sleep in pink I like it because it's not giant.

Is it annoying to wear it on your wrist all the time? I have to 'dress up' at work and I feel like it might stick out...

It doesn't bother me. It might stick out depends on how dressy you are. I probably won't wear it to a ball but I have no problem wearing it at work or with my normal clothes.

[teraiin]

Mar 25, 2015 10:38:17 GMT -5 piccyami said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:33:46 GMT -5 teraiin said:

Oh I never even thought about batteries, that's a good point!

It would take a really long time to actually burn through $40 of batteries, so it's just more of a convenience thing.  I hate changing batteries.  I also prefer the ones on your waist/bra because it's a more accurate representation of how many steps you take.  The ones on your wrist record how active your wrist is.

That's a good point too LOL I was just thinking more about work. I feel like it's not very dressy to have on my wrist all the time, but I could sort of hide the clip ones.

[onesweetworld]

Mar 25, 2015 10:39:01 GMT -5 negirl824 said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:37:14 GMT -5 onesweetworld said:

negirl824 missed you! Glad to see you on here.

Yea I haven't been able to keep up much on here like I would like to. Life has been a little crazy! 

I'm glad you're here now!

[teraiin]

Mar 25, 2015 10:40:22 GMT -5 onesweetworld said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:39:08 GMT -5 teraiin said:

Is it annoying to wear it on your wrist all the time? I have to 'dress up' at work and I feel like it might stick out...

It doesn't bother me. It might stick out depends on how dressy you are. I probably won't wear it to a ball but I have no problem wearing it at work or with my normal clothes.

I wear like dress pants, skirts, sweaters, blouses. So not really casual... but it's not like I wear suits or anything! I just don't want to buy something I won't use. (been there, done that!)

Thanks for the input btw!

[negirl824]

Mar 25, 2015 10:22:47 GMT -5 teraiin said:

Does anyone here have a fitbit? What are your thoughts? I've been sort of considering getting one, but I dunno. Some are expensive. A friend recommended the 'zip' one that can get clipped on to your belt/pants.

I'm very upset at myself for misplacing my paycheck and other stuff. Not cool.

I have the fitbit charge I love it. I love that it tells you how you slept and the vibration alarm.

[LadyNymeria]

Mar 25, 2015 10:13:08 GMT -5 joy said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:10:27 GMT -5 W said:

Skipped some pages--joy are you feeling any better from this AM?

I just have a runny nose and am occasionally sneezing.  I'm mildly congested.  I had a sore throat and headache yesterday but both of those are mostly gone today.

I feel like this can't be the flu.  It's progressing quite slowly and I feel mostly fine.  It feels like a cold and a mild one at that.

If it was the flu, I'd be feeling pretty lousy by now, wouldn't I?

I just got over a cold that hit so hard day 1 I thought it was the flu. Fever, chills, achy, everything. Day 2 I woke up and it was just a stuffy nose, sneezing, etc. Hopefully it's just a mild cold and you can kick it quickly.

[rablissful]

Mar 25, 2015 10:38:55 GMT -5 joy said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:28:52 GMT -5 rablissful said:

So mono is now going around my school. I have two students with it. Awesome.

Luckily, I've already had it. And I don't share drinks or saliva (grooooosss) with my students.

Fun fact: Mono is caused my EBV.  Almost 90% of the world becomes infected with EBV and the virus remains with you for life.  When it happens in children, you just get a fever and are over it in a few days.  When you get later in life, it causes mono.

Mono is rather rare in less industrialized countries - almost all children catch it while young.

I'm aware. That's why I'm happy I've already had it since the likelihood it'll re-emerge is next to zero. It sucked. I was in 8th grade and was out of school for like 2 weeks.

That being said my sister had it twice. At one point doctors thought she somehow had it a THIRD time and were going to write a case study on her. Then the test came back negative.

[SheilaTheTank]

Mar 25, 2015 10:39:33 GMT -5 GoBigOrGoGnome said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:18:52 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

There are sometimes where I can't afford to be skeeved out. It's either I buy the chicken and we eat that week or we go hungry.

This is the majority of people. Most people buy milk, meat, and eggs based on price and expiration date. Not many people can really afford to worry about whether it is organic or conventional. I've been inside meat processing plants, I know how the animals are slaughtered, I know more about milk than any human should, I know the differences between organic, all-natural, and conventional, I've been on both types of farms, and I purchase whatever is cheapest when I go to the store. I feel like that should say a lot. If I have the choice, I will choose the option that is NOT organic. 

What kills me about the whole thing is that folks think organic=healthier and that just isn't true. It sounds great it's a great marketing ploy, but that's really all it is. There are people in the world, in this country, even, that would kill to have access to meat, milk, and eggs and they wouldn't give a rat's ass how it was produced. If all farms switched to organic methods of production tomorrow, millions of people would go hungry. Newsflash: organic =/= sustainable. You can't feed the world with organic production.

I am way too passionate about this, but I just wish people understood the choices that they make. I had to take a typing class in middle school, I had to take foreign language in HS, among other required classes. Why aren't people required to know where their food comes from and how it is produced? I don't get it. 

Sorry for the tangent!

Don't be sorry. What you said is helpful and needs to be said. More people need to know these things because they are going through life with the wool over the eyes. 

My question is how do you feel about grass fed vs corn fed beef. I'm really considering going in on half a cow and would like some feedback from someone in the industry. 

[onesweetworld]

Mar 25, 2015 10:40:45 GMT -5 starbuck27 said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:36:33 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

You should watch Food Inc. It's a really great example of what really goes on in the food industry. 

Questsions:

1) Is it on Netflix?

2) Do I really want to know?

It was (Idk if it still is)
No.


My thoughts on food - appreciate where your food comes from. Try to buy local when you can. I order my meat from my friends farm - I see how it was raised and appreciate its life. I buy local fruit and veggie when I can and I get organic milk. Regular milk was messing with my cycle, ever since switching I have been more regular in length. I blame it on the synthetic hormones in non-organic milk.

[kellybenelly83]

Mar 25, 2015 10:38:55 GMT -5 joy said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:28:52 GMT -5 rablissful said:

So mono is now going around my school. I have two students with it. Awesome.

Luckily, I've already had it. And I don't share drinks or saliva (grooooosss) with my students.

Fun fact: Mono is caused by EBV.  Almost 90% of the world becomes infected with EBV and the virus remains with you for life.  When it happens in children, you just get a fever and are over it in a few days.  When you get later in life, it causes mono.

Mono is rather rare in less industrialized countries - almost all children catch it while young.

I got mono as a teenager and was labeled a total whore in HS because of it. I was kissing exactly 1 person that whole year. totally not a whore.....

[negirl824]

Mar 25, 2015 10:41:40 GMT -5 teraiin said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:40:22 GMT -5 onesweetworld said:

It doesn't bother me. It might stick out depends on how dressy you are. I probably won't wear it to a ball but I have no problem wearing it at work or with my normal clothes.

I wear like dress pants, skirts, sweaters, blouses. So not really casual... but it's not like I wear suits or anything! I just don't want to buy something I won't use. (been there, done that!)

Thanks for the input btw!

I wish these companies would come out with ones that are dressy. I think they would attract more people that way.

[rablissful]

Mar 25, 2015 10:39:33 GMT -5 GoBigOrGoGnome said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:18:52 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

There are sometimes where I can't afford to be skeeved out. It's either I buy the chicken and we eat that week or we go hungry.

This is the majority of people. Most people buy milk, meat, and eggs based on price and expiration date. Not many people can really afford to worry about whether it is organic or conventional. I've been inside meat processing plants, I know how the animals are slaughtered, I know more about milk than any human should, I know the differences between organic, all-natural, and conventional, I've been on both types of farms, and I purchase whatever is cheapest when I go to the store. I feel like that should say a lot. If I have the choice, I will choose the option that is NOT organic. 

What kills me about the whole thing is that folks think organic=healthier and that just isn't true. It sounds great it's a great marketing ploy, but that's really all it is. There are people in the world, in this country, even, that would kill to have access to meat, milk, and eggs and they wouldn't give a rat's ass how it was produced. If all farms switched to organic methods of production tomorrow, millions of people would go hungry. Newsflash: organic =/= sustainable. You can't feed the world with organic production.

I am way too passionate about this, but I just wish people understood the choices that they make. I had to take a typing class in middle school, I had to take foreign language in HS, among other required classes. Why aren't people required to know where their food comes from and how it is produced? I don't get it. 

Sorry for the tangent!

+1

My APP professor told us a story about how a girl FAINTED when he got to the muscle unit because she finally realized that's what meat is. Literally, IN COLLEGE. WTAF?!

I also think people should have to take an A&P course (not necessarily one that does dissection) because they should KNOW how THEIR OWN BODY works. Seriously. It would make people WAY more educated for when they go to the doctors.

[LadyNymeria]

Mar 25, 2015 10:38:17 GMT -5 piccyami said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:33:46 GMT -5 teraiin said:

Oh I never even thought about batteries, that's a good point!

It would take a really long time to actually burn through $40 of batteries, so it's just more of a convenience thing.  I hate changing batteries.  I also prefer the ones on your waist/bra because it's a more accurate representation of how many steps you take.  The ones on your wrist record how active your wrist is.

My mom has a wrist one and it definitely seems to count steps when she's talking because she talks with her hands a lot.

[rablissful]

Mar 25, 2015 10:50:35 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:38:17 GMT -5 piccyami said:

It would take a really long time to actually burn through $40 of batteries, so it's just more of a convenience thing.  I hate changing batteries.  I also prefer the ones on your waist/bra because it's a more accurate representation of how many steps you take.  The ones on your wrist record how active your wrist is.

My mom has a wrist one and it definitely seems to count steps when she's talking because she talks with her hands a lot.

This made me giggle. Thankfully I'm on lunch.

[GoBigOrGoGnome]

Mar 25, 2015 10:36:33 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:32:21 GMT -5 starbuck27 said:

This is the "cage free" label, I presume?

It's my understanding that pasture-raised means they are actually in the pasture, while "cage free" means exactly what you just said. Access to strip of dirt/concrete and otherwise shoved in a room with a 1,000+ other chickens.

You should watch Food Inc. It's a really great example of what really goes on in the food industry. 

Honestly, Food, Inc. is essentially propaganda. If you want to know more about your food and where it comes from, go out to a local farm. They'll be glad to have you and you can see what really happens. 

Are there farms where people don't do things like they should, sure. Are there places where animals get mistreated, sure. It's just like with pet owners...Most are great, some fucking suck. I will tell you that all of the farmers I've met (keep in mind, it's my job to go out and visit them everyday) are good, salt-of-the-Earth people who want to make a honest living and do right by their animals. They work hard, and the will never be rewarded for that hard work. Dairymen get up at the ass crack of dawn 7 days a week, holidays and all, to milk cows. I would never want that job but I'm glad there are people out there willing to do the work. Farming gets a very negative portrayal in the media and it shouldn't.

Also, the words "factory farm" or "corporate farm" probably send chills down your spine. They shouldn't, that's another buzzword circulating thanks to more misinformation. Of all the farms I've seen, the ones who are usually doing it right are the big ones. It's your 5000 cow dairies that have better disease monitoring systems, better vaccine protocols, lower incidences of mastitis and ketosis, lower somatic cell counts in the milk, better diets, more state-of-the art facilities, etc. It's the mom and pop dairies that tend to struggle with old, outdated and overcrowded facilities, higher disease rates, lower quality feed, and so on. You have to spend money to make money and many of them have a hard time with that. Just keep that in mind.

[piccyami]

Mar 25, 2015 10:49:14 GMT -5 @underdog25 said:

All this food talk reminds me of a kind of related story. We live on a farm, and we were visiting with a friend from out of country, who, at 22 years old she had no idea that bread came from wheat. She argued that it came from the grocery store. Didn't have a clue that there was a very long process involved before it magically appeared on the grocery store shelf.
It's kind of sad how many people really just don't know where their food comes from.

When I was in 2nd grade, I did a little video on where milk came from.  All of my classmates insisted that milk came from the store.  My grandfather's dairy farm was one of those that could have easily qualified for the organic certification, but he didn't want to spend the money on it.

[rablissful]

Mar 25, 2015 10:57:45 GMT -5 @underdog25 said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:54:06 GMT -5 GoBigOrGoGnome said:

Honestly, Food, Inc. is essentially propaganda. If you want to know more about your food and where it comes from, go out to a local farm. They'll be glad to have you and you can see what really happens. 

Are there farms where people don't do things like they should, sure. Are there places where animals get mistreated, sure. It's just like with pet owners...Most are great, some fucking suck. I will tell you that all of the farmers I've met (keep in mind, it's my job to go out and visit them everyday) are good, salt-of-the-Earth people who want to make a honest living and do right by their animals. They work hard, and the will never be rewarded for that hard work. Dairymen get up at the ass crack of dawn 7 days a week, holidays and all, to milk cows. I would never want that job but I'm glad there are people out there willing to do the work. Farming gets a very negative portrayal in the media and it shouldn't.

Also, the words "factory farm" or "corporate farm" probably send chills down your spine. They shouldn't, that's another buzzword circulating thanks to more misinformation. Of all the farms I've seen, the ones who are usually doing it right are the big ones. It's your 5000 cow dairies that have better disease monitoring systems, better vaccine protocols, lower incidences of mastitis and ketosis, lower somatic cell counts in the milk, better diets, more state-of-the art facilities, etc. It's the mom and pop dairies that tend to struggle with old, outdated and overcrowded facilities, higher disease rates, lower quality feed, and so on. You have to spend money to make money and many of them have a hard time with that. Just keep that in mind.

PREACH. I think I love you, gnome.

+1

[nuggetrn]

teraiin I definitely agree with everything piccyami has said about the wrist fitbit vs the fitbit one. I have the fitbit one and I love it. For me, I felt like the biggest difference between what the fitbit one and the flex can do for you is the vibrate to wake alarm. That just didn't really excite me enough to make me want to buy it. On top of that, I prefer the clip function rather than having to wear something on my wrist all day. If you want sleep tracking as well, my one came with a wrist cuff that you slip the one into when you are sleeping. You just hold the button down to let it know you've gone to bed and it will track your movement at night. You may already know this, but all of the fitbits sync with My Fitness Pal which I think is really nice.

I love mine and was actually just telling DH that I wanted to buy him one so we can compete!

[SheilaTheTank]

Mar 25, 2015 10:40:45 GMT -5 starbuck27 said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:36:33 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

You should watch Food Inc. It's a really great example of what really goes on in the food industry. 

Questions:

1) Is it on Netflix?

2) Do I really want to know?


Edited for spelling.

It used to be. I don't know if it still is.

I found it very informative without it being to horrifying. 

[nuggetrn]

Mar 25, 2015 10:46:02 GMT -5 negirl824 said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:41:40 GMT -5 teraiin said:

I wear like dress pants, skirts, sweaters, blouses. So not really casual... but it's not like I wear suits or anything! I just don't want to buy something I won't use. (been there, done that!)

Thanks for the input btw!

I wish these companies would come out with ones that are dressy. I think they would attract more people that way.

So I just got on amazon because for some reason I swear I saw some metal wristbands somewhere but now I can't find them... Not dressy, but they do have some replacement bands that are cute. Chevron, polka dots, camo.... so someone is working on it!

[GoBigOrGoGnome]

Mar 25, 2015 10:44:26 GMT -5 onesweetworld said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:40:45 GMT -5 starbuck27 said:

Questsions:

1) Is it on Netflix?

2) Do I really want to know?

It was (Idk if it still is)
No.


My thoughts on food - appreciate where your food comes from. Try to buy local when you can. I order my meat from my friends farm - I see how it was raised and appreciate its life. I buy local fruit and veggie when I can and I get organic milk. Regular milk was messing with my cycle, ever since switching I have been more regular in length. I blame it on the synthetic hormones in non-organic milk.

I can 100% get behind the local foods movement. It's great in so many ways- you know where your food comes from, you're supporting your local economy, and you're supporting your local farmer. 

That being said, your anecdote regarding conventional vs organic milk is just that: an anecdote. We all know correlation =/= causation and this is one of those cases.

First, the vast majority of milk is labeled as rBST free whether it is conventional or organic, etc. Secondly, whatever the label on your milk, there is BST present in it. BST (bovine somatotropin) is the hormone produced by the cow during lactation to signal her body to make milk. It is present in every cow ever that produces milk and present in all milk from all cows. It is a protein (not steroid) hormone and it is completely inactive in humans. rBST is just the synthetic version of the same hormone (the only difference being the position of a leucine). I could literally inject myself with it and nothing would happen. They tried to give it to kids with growth problems back in the 60s or some such thing and nothing happened. rBST is the most researched/tested product for animals ever approved by the FDA and has been around for 20 years. 

Also, people use rBST even when they say the won't, so chances are it's in your organic milk, too. There is no test to differentiate between BST and rBST so there would be no way to tell the difference.  That's why the label says "our farmers pledge"...Sounds great, but a pledge doesn't mean much. 

Moral of the story: drink more milk, eat more fruits, veggies, and lean protein, and don't worry so much about the rest of it. 

[SheilaTheTank]

Mar 25, 2015 10:56:53 GMT -5 piccyami said:

Mar 25, 2015 10:49:14 GMT -5 @underdog25 said:

All this food talk reminds me of a kind of related story. We live on a farm, and we were visiting with a friend from out of country, who, at 22 years old she had no idea that bread came from wheat. She argued that it came from the grocery store. Didn't have a clue that there was a very long process involved before it magically appeared on the grocery store shelf.
It's kind of sad how many people really just don't know where their food comes from.

When I was in 2nd grade, I did a little video on where milk came from.  All of my classmates insisted that milk came from the store.  My grandfather's dairy farm was one of those that could have easily qualified for the organic certification, but he didn't want to spend the money on it.

I'm 99% sure I learned that from Sesame Street. WTF are kids these days watching that they don't know where milk comes from?

[wanderingheart]

My stupid Provera is messing with my sleep. It knocks me out. I NEVER sleep through an alarm because I'm such a light sleeper. I have slept through my alarm/turned it off in my sleep 4 times since being on it.

I woke up at 7:30 this morning, and my alarm was supposed to go off at 5:45. I flew into a rage trying to get ready, until I saw I had an email from my professor cancelling our first class.

I got lucky, but I am still mad at you, Provera. THIS IS NOT OK.

[rablissful]

Mar 25, 2015 11:10:16 GMT -5 wanderingheart said:

My stupid Provera is messing with my sleep. It knocks me out. I NEVER sleep through an alarm because I'm such a light sleeper. I have slept through my alarm/turned it off in my sleep 4 times since being on it.

I woke up at 7:30 this morning, and my alarm was supposed to go off at 5:45. I flew into a rage trying to get ready, until I saw I had an email from my professor cancelling our first class.

I got lucky, but I am still mad at you, Provera. THIS IS NOT OK.

This used to happen to me. I had to set MULTIPLE alarms to get my ass out of bed. It sucked.

[nuggetrn]

Mar 25, 2015 11:10:16 GMT -5 wanderingheart said:

My stupid Provera is messing with my sleep. It knocks me out. I NEVER sleep through an alarm because I'm such a light sleeper. I have slept through my alarm/turned it off in my sleep 4 times since being on it.

I woke up at 7:30 this morning, and my alarm was supposed to go off at 5:45. I flew into a rage trying to get ready, until I saw I had an email from my professor cancelling our first class.

I got lucky, but I am still mad at you, Provera. THIS IS NOT OK.

Ugh, that sounds horrible! Good thing your class got canceled! I would be setting like six alarms at this point.