So I SAH to SAH and be with my kids. It's hard and exhausting (as you all know) and no way do I want to give up nap time/nights/weekends for a sales job. I mean if that's what you want to do fine but don't try & sell me on it. If we needed money I would go back to work, not start selling something. But to each their own, it's just annoying when other moms try & pressure other moms to do/buy/sell something they aren't interested in.
Can I slow clap this???
Also--the main reason I was pissed was not that she tried to sell me something. It's her job, I'm a new person, etc. I get it. What pissed me off was using my working mom status as something against me. It's the same as a working mom saying something like, oh I would love to sit in yoga pants and watch netflix all day! That sounds awesome! It's like, no bitch. You don't know my lyfe, go suck a D and leave me alone.
Yes!!!! I don't know why some SAH moms somehow feel like they've made a superior choice or that every other mom wishes they could SAH. Having a family is hard regardless of your work status and every mom does what works for her & her family. I honestly don't get it.
bliz1712 we have a joint account. H was working for his dad for a bit and would get paid in cash and I never even saw it and had to pay alll the bills out of my money in the account. It's better for us to keep all the money in one pot.
paddyb I don't care who makes more, I wish my H made more than me too! That would be great. But the fact is right now I make a lot more and it feels pretty badass.
not seeing any money from H when he is making money would PISS me off. I don't care if I have to cover all our bills because he isn't making anything - but if he was not contributing when he could man would I be pissed.
Oh, there were fights about it! He wasn't making much and my checks were just enough to cover the bills, but I'd have to ask him for money to go to the grocery store or put gas in my car and he would be so tight with it.
I'm thankful for the money he's making now, it's so much better than it was before.
I am making more than my H currently. I guess my FC that I really wish it wasn't that way. Although that's many because if he was making more than me, that would mean we had a shit load more money coming in every month and I would be less stressed about money. I don't actually care about who makes the most between us.
H just got a new job and he's just a smidge under making what I do. (Not that I'm really rolling it in.) But I like that it gives me a chance to be like "YOU HAVE TO HELP" occasionally. He's usually pretty good about stuff around the house, but we go through periods where he forgets that it's not the 1950's world his parents live in. He brought work home the other night with the intention of doing that and not bathtime or dishes (usually one of us does one, while the other does the other). I casually reminded him that until he is making we-have-daily-hired-help level of money, then he still is expected to do his fair share around the house.
Up until recently (like last year) I was making a good amount more than H and I'll admit I totally had the feeling like you aimeefarrahfowler! Granted up until this year we had separate accounts, but we would do taxes and I'd feel a little like this:
But now we're basically leveled off, and I'm proud of him for working hard to get where he is... but it sure did feel sweet for awhile there bringing home the bacon and being like "I'm using my degree bitch!" Although I never said that of course.
Oh and ETA I totally agree with you cookiesandwine, I have to bring work home with me sometimes, but that does not mean I pass stuff off on H entirely - so hellz yeah your H should still do his nightly thing. H and I have done similar in the past - one does dishes while the other gets J ready for bed... it just works well!
So I SAH to SAH and be with my kids. It's hard and exhausting (as you all know) and no way do I want to give up nap time/nights/weekends for a sales job. I mean if that's what you want to do fine but don't try & sell me on it. If we needed money I would go back to work, not start selling something. But to each their own, it's just annoying when other moms try & pressure other moms to do/buy/sell something they aren't interested in.
This and I think it's been addressed previously, but staying at home can be incredibly isolating--especially coming from a full-time with co-workers type of situation. So, the absolute last thing I want is a potential friend to view me as a client/business opportunity. At least half of the SAHM's I've met sell some sort of product. And it really keeps meaningful adult friendships from developing. Which sucks. And I'm not a bad person for not wanting to buy stuff I neither want or need.
I feel like I need to add a caveat here that what bothers me is all the MLM stuff. I have zero bad feelings about creative people doing etsy. Hell, if I could churn out cross-stitch items at a reasonable pace I would have an etsy store. Probably would not be all that successful, though, I am world's worst saleslady. I've had three retail jobs in my life and I think the longest I lasted was four days (back in the late 90's/early 00's) definitely not my forte.
Post by huskiefanuw on Mar 27, 2015 15:22:41 GMT -5
I would go crazy as a sahm. I hate jamberry nails, I think they look childish and silly. A good friend of mine is having a party in a while and asked me to come I straight told her I would come to drink wine but I won't buy that stuff. She just laughed.
My kid saw another kid wearing a Minnie Mouse shirt today. She pointed to the shirt and said "That girl wearing a mouse shirt! There's a mouse on that shirt!"
IT WAS A PROUD MOMENT! My kid doesn't even recognize Minnie Mouse! Take that, Disney Evil Empire! You've been unsuccessful when trying to underhandedly market your crap to a 2 yr old!!
I am extremely happy about this and I probably shouldn't be.
I got called for jury duty AGAIN. I know people say "oooh its your civic duty" and "we live in a great country!" but after 6 summons since about 2005, I'm freaking over it.
Post by heatherbee on Mar 27, 2015 19:12:55 GMT -5
I guess my FC is that my kid owns a ridiculous amount of character shirts. I shop at OUAC and they are the cheapest tee shirts available, and I basically buy all the shirts with Mickey, Spiderman or BuzzLight Year on them because I know they are shirts he will wear in the morning without any kind of fight. I have to have 2 kids out the door by 6:50 in the morning, so whatever shirts make that happen, make me happy. Disney wins in my household and I accept it.
I guess my FC is that my kid owns a ridiculous amount of character shirts. I shop at OUAC and they are the cheapest tee shirts available, and I basically buy all the shirts with Mickey, Spiderman or BuzzLight Year on them because I know they are shirts he will wear in the morning without any kind of fight. I have to have 2 kids out the door by 6:50 in the morning, so whatever shirts make that happen, make me happy. Disney wins in my household and I accept it.
Thats important! We have had the same battle with panda shirts. If I know I need to get her out of the house quickly, I pull out a panda shirt.
Post by heatherbee on Mar 27, 2015 20:02:20 GMT -5
This might be more of an Uo but I would rather shop for my DS clothes than DDs anyday. Summer clothes shopping took me about 15 minutes for DS. Found a bunch of basic colored shorts, a bunch of teeshirts with characters he likes / basic colors and I was done. Everything can mix and match and didn't require much thought at all. DDs clothes took forever. Why are there 47284 different shades of pink and none of them match unless you buy sets?!?
heatherbee Evie wears dresses 90% of the summer. She loves them, it's one thing on and nothing needs to match it.
I guess I have another FC then. I hate the clothing sets and will almost never buy them. And if I do I usually end up using one piece and the other is a gross play piece. I think they are usually horrible.
heatherbee Evie wears dresses 90% of the summer. She loves them, it's one thing on and nothing needs to match it.
I guess I have another FC then. I hate the clothing sets and will almost never buy them. And if I do I usually end up using one piece and the other is a gross play piece. I think they are usually horrible.
I did end up buying some of the onesie type dresses? Those were easy enough to find. But I'm not a dress person so I wasn't sure how practical they were for an infant so I didn't get to many, so thanks for the tip I generally buy a bunch of legging type pants and onesies and thats what DD has been living in. I can barely find clothes that I like, and dressing a daughter kind of terrifies me!
We get sun dresses because its hot as balls here May - Sept, and then just add leggings reuse them as tunic tops when they get too short for dresses. I'm all about stretching the wardrobe. Lillian will probably wear dresses that she had last summer, but use them as long ruffly tops.
We get sun dresses because its hot as balls here May - Sept, and then just add leggings reuse them as tunic tops when they get too short for dresses. I'm all about stretching the wardrobe. Lillian will probably wear dresses that she had last summer, but use them as long ruffly tops.
Also--the main reason I was pissed was not that she tried to sell me something. It's her job, I'm a new person, etc. I get it. What pissed me off was using my working mom status as something against me. It's the same as a working mom saying something like, oh I would love to sit in yoga pants and watch netflix all day! That sounds awesome! It's like, no bitch. You don't know my lyfe, go suck a D and leave me alone.
Yes!!!! I don't know why some SAH moms somehow feel like they've made a superior choice or that every other mom wishes they could SAH. Having a family is hard regardless of your work status and every mom does what works for her & her family. I honestly don't get it.
origamimommy preach sister! Not to resurrect the AdvoCare discussion from the other day but I am so over people implying that life would be so much better if you could be a SAHM and work a couple hours a day and fart rainbows. There is no way in hell I could be a ful time SAHM and I don't want to either! I like my job and my career and no amount of FB "inspiration" posts are going to change that.
Yes!!!! I don't know why some SAH moms somehow feel like they've made a superior choice or that every other mom wishes they could SAH. Having a family is hard regardless of your work status and every mom does what works for her & her family. I honestly don't get it.
origamimommy preach sister! Not to resurrect the AdvoCare discussion from the other day but I am so over people implying that life would be so much better if you could be a SAHM and work a couple hours a day and fart rainbows. There is no way in hell I could be a ful time SAHM and I don't want to either! I like my job and my career and no amount of FB "inspiration" posts are going to change that.
Catching up becuase we travelled this weekend...
I'm sure a bunch of you saw the post that I did this weekend that was basically a testimonial to how amaing her life has become now that she sells advocare. I was offended by it. She basically painted life as a working mom as a recipe for divorce and sick kids. My H and I are busy every day, but we have quality time with our kids and each other every day. We are fulfilled and challenged by our careers. We are financially secure and not dependant on income from a fad diet to stay that way. I'm sorry, but making money off of my friends for selling a diet program that will be long forgotten in a few years does not inspire me.
First: Who remembers Pampered Chef? It was huge, everyone under the sun sold it. You couldn't escape it....now? I think I have an old pizza stone somewhere that someone gave me?
Second: If a "friend" asked me to sell some product to "change my life" so that they could make money off of me, I would not be friends with them for very long.
origamimommy preach sister! Not to resurrect the AdvoCare discussion from the other day but I am so over people implying that life would be so much better if you could be a SAHM and work a couple hours a day and fart rainbows. There is no way in hell I could be a ful time SAHM and I don't want to either! I like my job and my career and no amount of FB "inspiration" posts are going to change that.
Catching up becuase we travelled this weekend...
I'm sure a bunch of you saw the post that I did this weekend that was basically a testimonial to how amaing her life has become now that she sells advocare. I was offended by it. She basically painted life as a working mom as a recipe for divorce and sick kids. My H and I are busy every day, but we have quality time with our kids and each other every day. We are fulfilled and challenged by our careers. We are financially secure and not dependant on income from a fad diet to stay that way. I'm sorry, but making money off of my friends for selling a diet program that will be long forgotten in a few years does not inspire me.
First: Who remembers Pampered Chef? It was huge, everyone under the sun sold it. You couldn't escape it....now? I think I have an old pizza stone somewhere that someone gave me?
Second: If a "friend" asked me to sell some product to "change my life" so that they could make money off of me, I would not be friends with them for very long.
jodielyn10: Spot on. It pisses me off what she said about sick kids and daycare. Both of our kids were in the hospital for some pretty crappy stuff. I would have loved to avoid that a million times over, but I wouldn't feel fulfilled doing anything else. And I don't think Riley is suffering being with friends and caring teachers every weekday either. STFU.
Post by jodielyn10 on Mar 30, 2015 12:18:43 GMT -5
summergirl1211, YES the RSV hospitalization still haunts me. But I refuse to feel guilty about it. Just like I refused to feel guilty when a friend offered me some of her breastmilk when Ingrid had RSV because of all the health benefits - subtly hinting that if she was BF instead of FF she would not have gotten sick. I love my job, but more importanly, I love working. I love having a career and I'm not selfish for not giving up my career to be a mom...because I AM A MOM.
jodielyn10 I just went back and read that post. (I don't even bother reading them normally since I already know I think it is a bunch of BS). That type of post is only going to "inspire" those who don't want to be working. it is definitely offensive to those of us who actually like having a career outside the home.
Post by britbratjf on Mar 30, 2015 12:59:42 GMT -5
jodielyn10 that's shitty. And you know what, SAH doesn't prevent your kids from getting sick. They go to school at some point, they're out in public places touching things, etc. Everyone gets sick. BF/FF, SAHM/Daycare. To imply otherwise just makes her a bitch.
I recently started selling Advocare because I like the products and have noticed a huge benefit from the products marketed for fitness/workouts. I have NO desire to SAH and that isn't why I got into it. I like helping people get healthy and the financial perk for us is that we can start to pay off some of the crazy medical bills that my family has acquired over the past 6 months. I don't have a problem with MLMs that are used ethically and improve the quality of life for the independent distributors. Extra money for selling products I believe in? Why not? I probably won't be super successful because I respect people's beliefs and I won't try to be pushy with someone who thinks it's BS. I just wanted to throw this in here since it sounds like a lot of people have a bad taste in their mouth as soon as they hear "advocare".
In some ways, it is easier to care for the kids by myself than when my husband is there, because I don't have to waste energy fuming over all the shit he's not doing . I SEE YOU PLAYING THAT GAME ON YOUR LAPTOP, DING-DONG. Don't pretend like you're "working", I know better.
When H is home, he likes to go in the kitchen and act like he's getting snacks or something, but he's really just leaning on the counter looking at his phone. And then he gets annoyed when the kids start bothering him. Dude, put the phone down. Play with your kids.
On Sunday afternoon, we're in the playroom playing basketball, and O calls out, Daddy, come play with me. He walks in fucking carrying his laptop so he can keep an eye on that stupid game he's playing. FUCKING REALLY? Close your laptop, asshole, and play with your fucking kid. If looks could kill he would be dead right now.
I completely missed that post over the weekend, but I agree. My kids are in daycare and have not been sick much thankfully (knock on wood), being in DC does not doom you to have a cold every couple of weeks. Some kids just get sick more often than others. I still can't get over the irony of some that have followed in her footsteps, including the multiple postings about the product.
I recently started selling Advocare because I like the products and have noticed a huge benefit from the products marketed for fitness/workouts. I have NO desire to SAH and that isn't why I got into it. I like helping people get healthy and the financial perk for us is that we can start to pay off some of the crazy medical bills that my family has acquired over the past 6 months. I don't have a problem with MLMs that are used ethically and improve the quality of life for the independent distributors. Extra money for selling products I believe in? Why not? I probably won't be super successful because I respect people's beliefs and I won't try to be pushy with someone who thinks it's BS. I just wanted to throw this in here since it sounds like a lot of people have a bad taste in their mouth as soon as they hear "advocare".
I would be more apt to buy something from someone with your mindset than other people who are constantly posting it and shoving it down your throat! Haha and I'm not opposed to Advocare I do like Spark, the only product I've tried, so I will keep you in mind!
Post by Riverdong11 on Mar 30, 2015 13:06:33 GMT -5
I unfriend overzealous pyramid scheme crazies. I don't feel like any of them are sincere about wanting to better humanity. I feel like they just see dollar signs when they meet someone new. No thanks.
I recently started selling Advocare because I like the products and have noticed a huge benefit from the products marketed for fitness/workouts. I have NO desire to SAH and that isn't why I got into it. I like helping people get healthy and the financial perk for us is that we can start to pay off some of the crazy medical bills that my family has acquired over the past 6 months. I don't have a problem with MLMs that are used ethically and improve the quality of life for the independent distributors. Extra money for selling products I believe in? Why not? I probably won't be super successful because I respect people's beliefs and I won't try to be pushy with someone who thinks it's BS. I just wanted to throw this in here since it sounds like a lot of people have a bad taste in their mouth as soon as they hear "advocare".
meow84: I am friends with several people who sell Advocare. Some are super pushy and some are not. But the only pushy sales people on my FB feed sell Advocare, so that's why I single it out. I'm glad it works for you (and them), it's just not for me. I just can't handle the people that take it too far and make it about them being better than others because they don't have to work for "the man".
I recently started selling Advocare because I like the products and have noticed a huge benefit from the products marketed for fitness/workouts. I have NO desire to SAH and that isn't why I got into it. I like helping people get healthy and the financial perk for us is that we can start to pay off some of the crazy medical bills that my family has acquired over the past 6 months. I don't have a problem with MLMs that are used ethically and improve the quality of life for the independent distributors. Extra money for selling products I believe in? Why not? I probably won't be super successful because I respect people's beliefs and I won't try to be pushy with someone who thinks it's BS. I just wanted to throw this in here since it sounds like a lot of people have a bad taste in their mouth as soon as they hear "advocare".
meow84: I am friends with several people who sell Advocare. Some are super pushy and some are not. But the only pushy sales people on my FB feed sell Advocare, so that's why I single it out. I'm glad it works for you (and them), it's just not for me. I just can't handle the people that take it too far and make it about them being better than others because they don't have to work for "the man".
I agree with this. I actually don't mind too much (occasionally) seeing something about what various people sell...the part I really mind is the continuous attempts to get people not only buy the product, but for them to start selling as well.
I recently started selling Advocare because I like the products and have noticed a huge benefit from the products marketed for fitness/workouts. I have NO desire to SAH and that isn't why I got into it. I like helping people get healthy and the financial perk for us is that we can start to pay off some of the crazy medical bills that my family has acquired over the past 6 months. I don't have a problem with MLMs that are used ethically and improve the quality of life for the independent distributors. Extra money for selling products I believe in? Why not? I probably won't be super successful because I respect people's beliefs and I won't try to be pushy with someone who thinks it's BS. I just wanted to throw this in here since it sounds like a lot of people have a bad taste in their mouth as soon as they hear "advocare".
meow84: I am friends with several people who sell Advocare. Some are super pushy and some are not. But the only pushy sales people on my FB feed sell Advocare, so that's why I single it out. I'm glad it works for you (and them), it's just not for me. I just can't handle the people that take it too far and make it about them being better than others because they don't have to work for "the man".
I can respect that. I use social media to to let people know that I use the products and am willing to talk to them if they are interested. I never intend to make it seem like I'm better than anyone who doesn't buy in to it. I kind of chuckled when someone said that its all about money because that is what causes the majority of arguments my husband and I get into -- I don't do things just for the money (obviously, I'm a social worker), whereas he would be miserable in a job that he hates if it meant a nice paycheck. Our current disagreement comes from me wanting to go back to school and become a personal trainer to incorporate physical health with mental health....I thought he was going to die when I said its worth the money because it would be fun and I could help more people. My point is that there actually are people out there who want to and enjoy helping others and not everyone who sells a product is out to manipulate people.
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