We are exclusively nursing. I need to open the pump so we can intro a bottle before it's too late. That's a thing, right? Too late to intro a bottle?
I'd like to BF at least a year & see how we both feel about it thereafter.
Never had a spring break fling. I also never did the typical spring break beach trip either.
misshart00 it's so hard to protect my back when nursing. I usually need the boppy to support him close to me and then a small pillow behind my back to fill the gap between me & wherever I'm sitting. My discomfort is mostly in my low back. Where is your pain? I'll ask DH for some stretches. He's a chiropractor
Seamonster- unsure about hunger v witching hour. I can usually tell if it's witching hour because he refuses to nurse, therefore he's not hungry, but that seems to be the opposite of your problem?
osumegs I use Lansinoh disposable pads at night. Sometimes they're pretty dry in the morning and sometimes they're very full, but no problems with leak through. I don't have quite as long of a stretch of sleep as you, but the other night I slept topless because one of my nipples was getting twingey and man was there milk everywhere. Glad I was sleeping on a towel!
Can't remember who asked about nursing session length but DS nurses on average 12-20 minutes total, shortest sessions can be 10 minutes, longest more like 40 minutes in the evening.
lilyelayne My nursing back pain is usually around where my bra strap would be. I think when I was pregnant, a nerve got killed in my back because it's usually around there.
lilyelayne, it is a thing as a friend of mine has a freezer stash she can't use as her baby won't take a bottle. If they're a great nurser then introducing a bottle should be ok now or in the next few weeks. I think she waited until he was two almost three months old and that was too late.
Are you nursing, pumping, supplementing? nursing + pumping, about 50/50
Questions? Anything to AW? I haven't read through the responses yet (I will in a sec!), but isn't it true that from about 1-2 months to 6 months, LO will eat basically the same amount/quantity of breast milk a day, despite increasing size/weight? I guesstimate that DS eats about mid-30s ounces each day and he is now 12 lbs, at/above the 2.5 oz/pound i've read about. I can't imagine having to make significantly more and more milk as he continues to gain...?
AW: DS is the non-pickiest eating baby I've ever met. He eats from the breast, with or without a nipple shield, from warmed bottles, or straight-from-the-fridge chilly bottles. He's ravenous and doesn't GAF how he gets the food, as long as he gets it! (gets this from mom, admittedly) I feel really lucky that we didn't have any bottle drama, like having to try a ton of types and brands to find something that worked.
How long would you like to BF? Do you have a goal? Has it changed from when you were pregnant to now? I'd like to EBF for 6 months. This has been our goal since the start.
I've been listening to Luke Bryan's new spring break album, so this week's GTKY: did you ever have a spring break fling? Good memories or bad? Never had a fling!, but I'm sure there was underaged drinking involved many a spring break
nbad311 I'm not sure when the amount levels out but that timeline sounds right. Breast milk changes composition to meet baby's needs with the same volume.
lilyelayne, it is a thing as a friend of mine has a freezer stash she can't use as her baby won't take a bottle. If they're a great nurser then introducing a bottle should be ok now or in the next few weeks. I think she waited until he was two almost three months old and that was too late.
Love tit for the info not for your friend who can't give her kid a bottle. I like only nursing now but I feel like a year(ish) is a long time to not have the option to leave DS with someone else for a while.
Are you nursing, pumping, supplementing? Nursing, now only pumping when we give him a bottle
Questions? Anything to AW? I know I had a small question earlier, but I can't think of it now. I'll be back with it, though!
How long would you like to BF? Do you have a goal? Has it changed from when you were pregnant to now? At least 6 months. No real goal, but beyond 6 months kind of is. I'd like to try and make it a year. I didn't know it'd be this hard while I wad pregnant, so to say I hope to make it a year is different.
I've been listening to Luke Bryan's new spring break album, so this week's GTKY: did you ever have a spring break fling? Good memories or bad? No spring break flings for me. I also never went anywhere or did anything too exciting during spring break. Womp womp.
nbad311 I'm not sure when the amount levels out but that timeline sounds right. Breast milk changes composition to meet baby's needs with the same volume.
I think this was my question! Given that the composition changes, and given that you should use the oldest milk first, when would I use my freezer stash? I actually have been now when we give him a bottle, but I wonder if that's why I can't figure out how much he actually needs - it had fewer calories than what he's getting now?
So for daycare I would use what I pump Monday for Tuesday and so on, right? That way it consists of what he currently needs?
nbad311 I'm not sure when the amount levels out but that timeline sounds right. Breast milk changes composition to meet baby's needs with the same volume.
I think this was my question! Given that the composition changes, and given that you should use the oldest milk first, when would I use my freezer stash? I actually have been now when we give him a bottle, but I wonder if that's why I can't figure out how much he actually needs - it had fewer calories than what he's getting now?
So for daycare I would use what I pump Monday for Tuesday and so on, right? That way it consists of what he currently needs?
Oh, dang, I didn't even think about my freezer stash! Great question. I started pumping extra about two weeks PP, obviously when my milk was newer and LO's needs were different. I shall try and research this now!
nbad311 I'm not sure when the amount levels out but that timeline sounds right. Breast milk changes composition to meet baby's needs with the same volume.
I think this was my question! Given that the composition changes, and given that you should use the oldest milk first, when would I use my freezer stash? I actually have been now when we give him a bottle, but I wonder if that's why I can't figure out how much he actually needs - it had fewer calories than what he's getting now?
So for daycare I would use what I pump Monday for Tuesday and so on, right? That way it consists of what he currently needs?
I have wondered this same thing, if your milk changes, then when you give something out of the freezer does that mean LO will need more oz of it cause it's from when they were younger and so it possibly has less calories? But I have read the same thing, about using what you pump today for the next days bottles for daycare .
I think this was my question! Given that the composition changes, and given that you should use the oldest milk first, when would I use my freezer stash? I actually have been now when we give him a bottle, but I wonder if that's why I can't figure out how much he actually needs - it had fewer calories than what he's getting now?
So for daycare I would use what I pump Monday for Tuesday and so on, right? That way it consists of what he currently needs?
Oh, dang, I didn't even think about my freezer stash! Great question. I started pumping extra about two weeks PP, obviously when my milk was newer and LO's needs were different. I shall try and research this now!
Let me know what you find out! I also started a freezer stash about 2 weeks pp and have like 50 bags in there... I'd hate to think it would be wasted!
Post by greenpony33 on Apr 7, 2015 10:42:20 GMT -5
How old is your LO? 8 weeks, wow he's getting big!
Are you nursing, pumping, supplementing nursing but pumping 1 x day (inconsistently for a stash for returning to work)
Questions? Anything to AW? How does everyone handle pumping at night if your SO gives a bottle so you can sleep, when do you pump? I always think DH can give a MOTN bottle but then I don't get any more sleep cause I have to get up to pump so it's not a missed feeding and so my boobs aren't angry and leaky.
How long would you like to BF? Do you have a goal? Has it changed from when you were pregnant to now? I use to think I would BF for 1 year no questions asked, but now that we're doing it I don't know. Luckily and thankfully we haven't had any huge difficulties but it is difficult in terms of being the only one who can feed (yes others can give bottles but then that involves pumping and especially for longer time away that's a lot of pumping). So right now I was 6 months and we'll go from there.
I've been listening to Luke Bryan's new spring break album, so this week's GTKY: did you ever have a spring break fling? Good memories or bad? No spring fling, mark me for another boring one ;-)
Are you nursing, pumping, supplementing? nursing + pumping, about 50/50
Questions? Anything to AW? I haven't read through the responses yet (I will in a sec!), but isn't it true that from about 1-2 months to 6 months, LO will eat basically the same amount/quantity of breast milk a day, despite increasing size/weight? I guesstimate that DS eats about mid-30s ounces each day and he is now 12 lbs, at/above the 2.5 oz/pound i've read about. I can't imagine having to make significantly more and more milk as he continues to gain...?
AW: DS is the non-pickiest eating baby I've ever met. He eats from the breast, with or without a nipple shield, from warmed bottles, or straight-from-the-fridge chilly bottles. He's ravenous and doesn't GAF how he gets the food, as long as he gets it! (gets this from mom, admittedly) I feel really lucky that we didn't have any bottle drama, like having to try a ton of types and brands to find something that worked.
How long would you like to BF? Do you have a goal? Has it changed from when you were pregnant to now? I'd like to EBF for 6 months. This has been our goal since the start.
I've been listening to Luke Bryan's new spring break album, so this week's GTKY: did you ever have a spring break fling? Good memories or bad? Never had a fling!, but I'm sure there was underaged drinking involved many a spring break
The 2.5 oz per pound thing is the formula to give you a idea of how much formula baby needs to start.
Throw that completely out the window. Breastfed babies take in on average 25 oz per day at the breast. That's from researchers doing weighted feeds on babies for months and months. Babies of all ages and weights etc all came in at about the same amt of oz per day from age three weeks til way past six mos. The range is 19-30 oz and it stays there til they take in a lot of solids and milk intake then goes down.
So you don't have to make/pump more and more and more oz. As they start sleeping longer at night their intake changes to daytime and you may see bigger bottle sizes or increased nursing duel during the day. Most bfed babies top out at four oz bottles six times a day. Which is a food number with three meals and three snacks. Lol.
nbad311 I'm not sure when the amount levels out but that timeline sounds right. Breast milk changes composition to meet baby's needs with the same volume.
I think this was my question! Given that the composition changes, and given that you should use the oldest milk first, when would I use my freezer stash? I actually have been now when we give him a bottle, but I wonder if that's why I can't figure out how much he actually needs - it had fewer calories than what he's getting now?
So for daycare I would use what I pump Monday for Tuesday and so on, right? That way it consists of what he currently needs?
ETA; What say you, @amyg?
The milk composition changes as baby gets older. But the difference between the milk you made on feb compared to the milk you make now in early April is bit a hole lot of difference. Your Pumped milk from those two times is more similar to each other than formula would be.
They make take slightly more oz of "old milk" but not a huge amt difference. And if you are also nursing they probably will just make up the difference with a teeny hit longer nursing session once it twice when you are together.
Most working moms have a stash that should be rotated so it doesn't get too old. But if baby is on daycare you also want to balance that with lots of fresh milk so they get antibodies to the stuff they are currently being exposed to. Using frozen milk also means time spent freezing new milk so you can thaw old milk.
Most find that using frozen milk on Monday works out fine. Pulling briskest milk from their stash. The each day the rest of the week they send what they pumped the day before. On Friday they freeze what they pumped to add fresh milk back to the stash.
Moms with tons of milk frozen may find hey need to do that plus send one bag of frozen milk a day or so to rotate the milk fast enough to not "expire".
I think this was my question! Given that the composition changes, and given that you should use the oldest milk first, when would I use my freezer stash? I actually have been now when we give him a bottle, but I wonder if that's why I can't figure out how much he actually needs - it had fewer calories than what he's getting now?
So for daycare I would use what I pump Monday for Tuesday and so on, right? That way it consists of what he currently needs?
ETA; What say you, @amyg?
The milk composition changes as baby gets older. But the difference between the milk you made on feb compared to the milk you make now in early April is bit a hole lot of difference. Your Pumped milk from those two times is more similar to each other than formula would be.
They make take slightly more oz of "old milk" but not a huge amt difference. And if you are also nursing they probably will just make up the difference with a teeny hit longer nursing session once it twice when you are together.
Most working moms have a stash that should be rotated so it doesn't get too old. But if baby is on daycare you also want to balance that with lots of fresh milk so they get antibodies to the stuff they are currently being exposed to. Using frozen milk also means time spent freezing new milk so you can thaw old milk.
Most find that using frozen milk on Monday works out fine. Pulling briskest milk from their stash. The each day the rest of the week they send what they pumped the day before. On Friday they freeze what they pumped to add fresh milk back to the stash.
Moms with tons of milk frozen may find hey need to do that plus send one bag of frozen milk a day or so to rotate the milk fast enough to not "expire".
I already thought about maybe starting to pull out, thaw and use some of my earliest frozen bags as to not let them get too far behind.
DH and I are looking to use a free plane ticket to go away for a 3 day weekend at the end of May , no baby, and my mom would watch him. I'm evaluating my frozen stash - making sure there would be enough, and if the earliest milk would still be fine for his current feeding needs.
yes definitely pull out some frozen stash and check if baby will take it. sometimes moms find after they have frozen hundreds of oz of milk that they have excess lipase and the milk gets funky after storing, freezing and thawing. some babies take the milk fine, as there is nothing wrong with it, but some babies refuse to drink it. Lipase is an enzyme that breaks down the fats in breastmilk so it's more useable by baby's system, and with pump and storage the lipase keeps working and can make the milk "off" sort of predigested. so check some of your frozen milk.
lilyelayne My nursing back pain is usually around where my bra strap would be. I think when I was pregnant, a nerve got killed in my back because it's usually around there.
DH says lay on the ground & make snow angels before & after nursing. Alternatively jumping jacks & push ups on the wall will help that area also.
lilyelayne My nursing back pain is usually around where my bra strap would be. I think when I was pregnant, a nerve got killed in my back because it's usually around there.
DH says lay on the ground & make snow angels before & after nursing. Alternatively jumping jacks & push ups on the wall will help that area also.
Ugh. Because I'm not sore enough. Lol. But I'll try it.
Post by babycfeb2015 on Apr 7, 2015 18:07:21 GMT -5
I actually would advise against pushups. Any chest exercise is going to make that area even tighter then it already is. Doing them against the wall is different then on the ground but you would be better off doing more back specific exercises like reverse flys or dumbell rows
I actually would advise against pushups. Any chest exercise is going to make that area even tighter then it already is. Doing them against the wall is different then on the ground but you would be better off doing more back specific exercises like reverse flys or dumbell rows
I don't even know what those are. Can you tell how out of shape I am?
I actually would advise against pushups. Any chest exercise is going to make that area even tighter then it already is. Doing them against the wall is different then on the ground but you would be better off doing more back specific exercises like reverse flys or dumbell rows
I don't even know what those are. Can you tell how out of shape I am?
Youtube the snow angels on the wall or ground as pp mentioned are a great starting place!
lilyelayne, it is a thing as a friend of mine has a freezer stash she can't use as her baby won't take a bottle. If they're a great nurser then introducing a bottle should be ok now or in the next few weeks. I think she waited until he was two almost three months old and that was too late.
Love tit for the info not for your friend who can't give her kid a bottle. I like only nursing now but I feel like a year(ish) is a long time to not have the option to leave DS with someone else for a while.
My first child wouldn't ever take a bottle. We didn't realize there was a window of opportunity and introduced it too late. It was a long 14 months.
I think I'm getting hot flashes when I nurse. It started sometime in last week. Anyone else?
yup. And I asked my midwife last week at my appointment. Apparently it's due to estrogen levels. I get them sometimes during let down or I even have these weird tingles and I feel my boobs refilling.
I get the tingly milk refill feeling between feedings but the hot flashes are more likely with let down. I can't feel my let down but when I sit down to nurse suddenly I'm sooo hot. Oh hormones.
We are officially keeping the 3oz evening supplementation. Which is ok with me now that we have that direction from the pedi. It's still better than the 3 bottles a day extra we were doing.
She was happy to see that he's still gaining well and is still in the high percentiles for growth, even if he's leveled off. Hopefully we can keep things up after I go back to week.
Post by modernfairytale8709 on Apr 10, 2015 9:09:46 GMT -5
How old is your LO? 7 weeks yesterday
Are you nursing, pumping, supplementing? Almost exclusively EBF, pumping for a freezer supply and for our occasional date nights.
Questions? So, I've been pumping to build a supply since LO was 3 weeks. And everything I've read online is saying that our magical milk is constantly changing to meet the needs of our growing babies. Is feeding the milk from when she was 3 weeks old going to cause an issue? I'm thinking I'll be fine, but wondering anyway.
How long would you like to BF? Do you have a goal?[] Ideally, one year. But I don't know what going back to work and trying to pump there is going to be like. I want to practice baby-led weaning.
Has it changed from when you were pregnant to now? Yes. When I was pregnant, my goal was 3-6 months.
I've been listening to Luke Bryan's new spring break album, so this week's GTKY: did you ever have a spring break fling? Good memories or bad?
No exiting spring flings for me. I grew up mennonite, so, ultraconservative. But now, I'm making up for lost time
So, I've been pumping to build a supply since LO was 3 weeks. And everything I've read online is saying that our magical milk is constantly changing to meet the needs of our growing babies. Is feeding the milk from when she was 3 weeks old going to cause an issue? I'm thinking I'll be fine, but wondering anyway.
There's actually a great discussion of this earlier in the thread; AmyG chimed in with her expertise.
I think the answer is basically it's fine, baby will make up any necessary deficit when returned to nursing if necessary, don't let your frozen milk get too old, and check to make sure your baby is willing to drink thawed milk. But when you have time scroll back and read pp.
So, I've been pumping to build a supply since LO was 3 weeks. And everything I've read online is saying that our magical milk is constantly changing to meet the needs of our growing babies. Is feeding the milk from when she was 3 weeks old going to cause an issue? I'm thinking I'll be fine, but wondering anyway.
There's actually a great discussion of this earlier in the thread; AmyG chimed in with her expertise.
I think the answer is basically it's fine, baby will make up any necessary deficit when returned to nursing if necessary, don't let your frozen milk get too old, and check to make sure your baby is willing to drink thawed milk. But when you have time scroll back and read pp.
Found it! Thanks for pointing it out. I'd only gotten to page 3
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