Go Dove

[diamondsndaisies]

Have you guys seen this? 

I almost started tearing up. How amazing. 

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Almost teared up damn my cheeks are wet.

[wirt2cute]

I loved this, I'm sitting here crying at my desk. #choosebeautiful

[mrss44]

I love this.

[awkwardturtle]

Awe.. I got chills and teared up.

[mrsjene]

Seems to be a lot of dust in my office today....

[singingsea]

I'm just sad we live in a society where physical appeal effects our self worth.

Goes back to eating kale and knitting vagina scarves.

[requiressnacks]

I like these videos (and yes, I cry like everyone else), but I'm getting a little sick of the "everyone is beautiful" mantra. let's be honest here - everyone is not beautiful. But I am totally a fan of everyone having true self-love and self-confidence, regardless of their appearance. I just wish they had used different adjectives - like maybe intelligent and funny. That would have stopped me dead in my tracks because I would have to really think about which I identify with. (flame away)

[teraiin]

This is wonderful.

Although I do agree with PP it's too bad that we have to categorize ourselves as beautiful/average. 

[singingsea]

omg I'm a reg. I just now noticed. Ha.

[kellybenelly83]

Apr 8, 2015 10:02:33 GMT -5 singingsea said:

I'm just sad we live in a society where physical appeal effects our self worth.

Goes back to eating kale and knitting vagina scarves.

explain?? 

[singingsea]

Apr 8, 2015 10:08:08 GMT -5 kellybenelly83 said:

Apr 8, 2015 10:02:33 GMT -5 singingsea said:

I'm just sad we live in a society where physical appeal effects our self worth.

Goes back to eating kale and knitting vagina scarves.

explain?? 

Not for the squeamish or for work. This was shown on Tosh.0

[kellybenelly83]

Apr 8, 2015 10:11:51 GMT -5 singingsea said:

Apr 8, 2015 10:08:08 GMT -5 kellybenelly83 said:

explain?? 

Not for the squeamish or for work. This was shown on Tosh.0

oh yeah! I saw this, thats pretty gross. 
I thought you were knitting scarves with a vagina pattern and was really confused, evidently I'm having a blonde day.

[singingsea]

Apr 8, 2015 10:16:22 GMT -5 kellybenelly83 said:

Apr 8, 2015 10:11:51 GMT -5 singingsea said:

oh yeah! I saw this, thats pretty gross. 
I thought you were knitting scarves with a vagina pattern and was really confused, evidently I'm having a blonde day.

When I went to go find this video I stumbled across penis knitting. Didn't watch but wondering how that works.

[♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪]

The only thing that tugged on my heart strings was the mother yanking her daughter over to the beautiful side. That was cute.

The rest? Meh. I probably would have been like the lady that turned around and left. Or if I had to go in, I'd go in on the beautiful side to fuck up the expected results.

[Deleted]

So are they saying women who identify with "average" don't think of themselves as beautiful?  If so, I disagree.  I think I'm average looking, meaning there is nothing about me physically that stands out from a crowd.  I consider myself okay looking, too.

[swivelchair5]

I would probably just walk through whatever door was closest.

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Apr 8, 2015 10:02:44 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

I like these videos (and yes, I cry like everyone else), but I'm getting a little sick of the "everyone is beautiful" mantra. let's be honest here - everyone is not beautiful. But I am totally a fan of everyone having true self-love and self-confidence, regardless of their appearance. I just wish they had used different adjectives - like maybe intelligent and funny. That would have stopped me dead in my tracks because I would have to really think about which I identify with. (flame away)

stuck in box, no flame, I get what you are saying and agree.  This was just one simple way to identify how people define themselves.  I'm admittedly emotional and particularly so about self-image.  Beauty is, to me, more than physical appearance and so in that respect I think what you are saying and how I read it are the same.  I like watching anything positive.

[blush]

Apr 8, 2015 10:02:44 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

I'm getting a little sick of the "everyone is beautiful" mantra. let's be honest here - everyone is not beautiful. But I am totally a fan of everyone having true self-love and self-confidence, regardless of their appearance. I just wish they had used different adjectives - like maybe intelligent and funny. That would have stopped me dead in my tracks because I would have to really think about which I identify with. (flame away)

Everyone might not be beautiful in the eyes of the media but beauty is different for different people. Also, in North America there might be accepted beauty ideals but they might be different in other areas of the world. Look at what beauty was 100 years ago and it is not the same today.

I do think everyone is be beautiful.(Just maybe not to everyone else)

It would be nice if greater value was placed on things other than outward appearance.

[juliayadda]

I think the video was trying to challenge people with why they would be more inclined to head to the average door. Not saying everyone is beautiful. If you dont put any self-worth in your looks well good for you. That is a very healthy mind set.

Unfortunately, time and again studies show that women place ideals on beauty and discount themselves when they do not have any of these characteristics. This can stem from external factors such as magazines, Hollywood stars and other media, racism, and class-ism, or more internal factors such as family influences (an overly critical parent) comparing oneself to peers they consider to be more "beautiful" which is then classed as of more worth.

This video challenged the people that WERE placing self-worth on their appearance and discounting it to reevaluate why they were.

I truly truly wish that the world operated on the level that hey I am an average looking person and that is okay, but it doesn't.

I will also say that those of you that think you are "average" looking, if you submitted a pic of yourself to this forum, the comments that would flow would explain why you are NOT average. Do you look at your friend's and family members and not see their beauty? Would you say to them that they are not beautiful? Never had a day where they were the most beautiful person in the room?

[pismoduo]

Apr 8, 2015 10:02:33 GMT -5 singingsea said:

I'm just sad we live in a society where physical appeal effects our self worth.

Goes back to eating kale and knitting vagina scarves.

*can't decide if these are scarves shaped like vaginas or scarves FOR vaginas...*

ETA: I see now that you answered. But my work blocks videos.

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Apr 8, 2015 13:36:12 GMT -5 swivelchair5 said:

I would probably just walk through whatever door was closest.

Ditto. 

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Apr 8, 2015 14:52:04 GMT -5 juliayadda said:

I think the video was trying to challenge people with why they would be more inclined to head to the average door. Not saying everyone is beautiful. If you dont put any self-worth in your looks well good for you. That is a very healthy mind set.

Unfortunately, time and again studies show that women place ideals on beauty and discount themselves when they do not have any of these characteristics. This can stem from external factors such as magazines, Hollywood stars and other media, racism, and class-ism, or more internal factors such as family influences (an overly critical parent) comparing oneself to peers they consider to be more "beautiful" which is then classed as of more worth.

This video challenged the people that WERE placing self-worth on their appearance and discounting it to reevaluate why they were.

I truly truly wish that the world operated on the level that hey I am an average looking person and that is okay, but it doesn't.

I will also say that those of you that think you are "average" looking, if you submitted a pic of yourself to this forum, the comments that would flow would explain why you are NOT average. Do you look at your friend's and family members and not see their beauty? Would you say to them that they are not beautiful? Never had a day where they were the most beautiful person in the room?

Can someone not be average, but beautiful?  I find it frustrating that people push for magazines to show REAL, average women in their ads yet this campaign seems to say that being average is a negative thing.

[juliayadda]

Apr 8, 2015 15:11:43 GMT -5 @marymargaret said:

Apr 8, 2015 14:52:04 GMT -5 juliayadda said:

I think the video was trying to challenge people with why they would be more inclined to head to the average door. Not saying everyone is beautiful. If you dont put any self-worth in your looks well good for you. That is a very healthy mind set.

Unfortunately, time and again studies show that women place ideals on beauty and discount themselves when they do not have any of these characteristics. This can stem from external factors such as magazines, Hollywood stars and other media, racism, and class-ism, or more internal factors such as family influences (an overly critical parent) comparing oneself to peers they consider to be more "beautiful" which is then classed as of more worth.

This video challenged the people that WERE placing self-worth on their appearance and discounting it to reevaluate why they were.

I truly truly wish that the world operated on the level that hey I am an average looking person and that is okay, but it doesn't.

I will also say that those of you that think you are "average" looking, if you submitted a pic of yourself to this forum, the comments that would flow would explain why you are NOT average. Do you look at your friend's and family members and not see their beauty? Would you say to them that they are not beautiful? Never had a day where they were the most beautiful person in the room?

Can someone not be average, but beautiful?  I find it frustrating that people push for magazines to show REAL, average women in their ads yet this campaign seems to say that being average is a negative thing.

I think so.

I think the women who crossed over still considered themselves average but were able to admit they were also beautiful.

Their first thought was "bah I'm average" but the challenge made them realize they were beautiful too.

I doubt even the icons we hold to the highest standard of beauty feel 100% beautiful all of the time.

Are we jumping to the conclusion we are either average or beautiful too quickly?

[juliayadda]

To your second point @marymargaret about the video saying average = negative.
I interpreted it as a challenge, and I would have to rewatch to find them explicitly saying this (that avg=neg). It is very subjective in this manner.

My take away is: yes you are average, but you are beautiful too.

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Apr 8, 2015 10:02:44 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

I like these videos (and yes, I cry like everyone else), but I'm getting a little sick of the "everyone is beautiful" mantra. let's be honest here - everyone is not beautiful. But I am totally a fan of everyone having true self-love and self-confidence, regardless of their appearance. I just wish they had used different adjectives - like maybe intelligent and funny. That would have stopped me dead in my tracks because I would have to really think about which I identify with. (flame away)

Just a disclaimer- This is not a flame. Just a response to your post.

This is part of Dove's advertising campaign so those are the words they chose to use. The current marketing revolves around the idea of beauty being more than skin deep - a concept many people do not understand. They are trying to teach women to feel better about themselves and be more confident.
I agree that not everyone is beautiful; but i'd rather be friends with average looking person with a beautiful soul over a cold hearted fake bitch with a perfect smile any day. Wouldn't you?

Also FWIW, I think I look beautiful in my wedding pictures, alot of people have told me that too. However, I wouldn't go around saying that I was the most beautiful bride ever because of that. I'm usually super lazy about dressing up or wearing make up IRL, and would probably be considered average looking. It's just nice to receive a compliment sometimes.

[requiressnacks]

Apr 8, 2015 16:04:12 GMT -5 @wallflwr926 said:

Apr 8, 2015 10:02:44 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

I like these videos (and yes, I cry like everyone else), but I'm getting a little sick of the "everyone is beautiful" mantra. let's be honest here - everyone is not beautiful. But I am totally a fan of everyone having true self-love and self-confidence, regardless of their appearance. I just wish they had used different adjectives - like maybe intelligent and funny. That would have stopped me dead in my tracks because I would have to really think about which I identify with. (flame away)

Just a disclaimer- This is not a flame. Just a response to your post.

This is part of Dove's advertising campaign so those are the words they chose to use. The current marketing revolves around the idea of beauty being more than skin deep - a concept many people do not understand. They are trying to teach women to feel better about themselves and be more confident.
I agree that not everyone is beautiful; but i'd rather be friends with average looking person with a beautiful soul over a cold hearted fake bitch with a perfect smile any day. Wouldn't you?

Also FWIW, I think I look beautiful in my wedding pictures, alot of people have told me that too. However, I wouldn't go around saying that I was the most beautiful bride ever because of that. I'm usually super lazy about dressing up or wearing make up IRL, and would probably be considered average looking. It's just nice to receive a compliment sometimes.

Yeah, I see your point on this and I totally get it. I didn't really address that some people are beautiful on the inside, I was referring to looks only.

Sometimes I just  feel like when we tell women they are are supposed to act/feel beautiful every day its like giving everyone a trophy just for participating. I am totally fine with the fact that there are women WAY more beautiful than I am.  That doesn't make me unhappy or love myself any less.  Sometimes I look a hot mess, and that's totally fine.

And I'm sure you DO look beautiful in your wedding pics! 

[Unknown]

Apr 8, 2015 13:20:05 GMT -5 @marymargaret said:

So are they saying women who identify with "average" don't think of themselves as beautiful?  If so, I disagree.  I think I'm average looking, meaning there is nothing about me physically that stands out from a crowd.  I consider myself okay looking, too.

This! I am not an above average looking woman physically, but I am very confident in who I am physically and emotionally that I would hate to think if I picked the "average" door it was because I didn't think highly of myself worth. The question is does the "beautiful" just stand for physically beautiful?

I mean the commercial still made me cry.

[lilsneezy]

www.buzzfeed.com/arabellesicardi/dove-makes-women-to-walk-through-doors-labeled-beautiful-or?bffb&utm_term=4ldqpgp#.wybXvKr3A

^Pretty interesting take on this campaign.

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Apr 8, 2015 16:11:52 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

Apr 8, 2015 16:04:12 GMT -5 @wallflwr926 said:

Just a disclaimer- This is not a flame. Just a response to your post.

This is part of Dove's advertising campaign so those are the words they chose to use. The current marketing revolves around the idea of beauty being more than skin deep - a concept many people do not understand. They are trying to teach women to feel better about themselves and be more confident.
I agree that not everyone is beautiful; but i'd rather be friends with average looking person with a beautiful soul over a cold hearted fake bitch with a perfect smile any day. Wouldn't you?

Also FWIW, I think I look beautiful in my wedding pictures, alot of people have told me that too. However, I wouldn't go around saying that I was the most beautiful bride ever because of that. I'm usually super lazy about dressing up or wearing make up IRL, and would probably be considered average looking. It's just nice to receive a compliment sometimes.

Yeah, I see your point on this and I totally get it. I didn't really address that some people are beautiful on the inside, I was referring to looks only.

Sometimes I just  feel like when we tell women they are are supposed to act/feel beautiful every day its like giving everyone a trophy just for participating. I am totally fine with the fact that there are women WAY more beautiful than I am.  That doesn't make me unhappy or love myself any less.  Sometimes I look a hot mess, and that's totally fine.

And I'm sure you DO look beautiful in your wedding pics! 

I actually think that we should give little girls trophies like that. Maybe then there wouldn't be so much emphasis on looks.

Ps.S. Thanks for the compliment.