Parenting, fix my life.

[holls2011]

Apr 21, 2015 14:17:53 GMT -5 @jap said:

Oh. "Culture"

Can't spell culture without the cult. 

[uconn]

....sooooo, that's the "thing" he's into? PoW, why the HELL are you even considering staying married if you stay in PA?

I just...don't even know.

[holls2011]

Apr 21, 2015 14:18:30 GMT -5 @aditi said:

Apr 21, 2015 14:17:53 GMT -5 @jap said:

Oh. "Culture"

can't spell culture without cult. Ehhhh

God damn it!  You beat me to it.

[McBenny]

Apr 21, 2015 14:16:40 GMT -5 @jap said:

The religion is reason enough to get a divorce

I think I said this on page 2 or 3.

[uconn]

Apr 21, 2015 14:19:02 GMT -5 @twatley said:

I don't understand why the religion isn't the ONLY reason you're getting a divorce. That shit should have been in the OP. If you had been like:

"My husband has gone crazy and thinks white people are evil and all blacks are gods. I need to get my child the fuck away from him"

We would have been pulling out our wallets saying "okay, who do I make this check out to??"

I don't understand why Mr. Texas is playing any role in this whatsoever.

alllllllllllllllllll this

[McBenny]

Apr 21, 2015 14:16:15 GMT -5 @ftwr said:

Apr 21, 2015 14:14:11 GMT -5 unheardof said:

'Those who followed the Nation of Islam believed that their founder, Wallace Fard Muhammad, was God. Smith disagreed. He believed that God was “purely black,” while Muhammad was bi-racial. On top of that, Smith believed God was not a supernatural being, but rather something found in all black males. He believed women were subordinate to men, and therefore did not possess God.

Members of the Five Percent Nation subscribed to the idea that all white people are “weak, wicked, and inferior,” as stated by Michael Muhammad Knight, who has written two books on the Five Percenters. As he put it, whites were described as an “errant child who needs to be corrected.” While Smith claimed that black women did not contain God in them and were seen as subordinate, he still believed they held a higher standing than white people.'

This does now sound like someone who would want their spouse to do whatever made them happy.

It does because SHE is not in the religion. So, if SHE is not willing to conform what would be the next best thing for him?

[Cherhorowitz]

Culture. Religion. Hate group. Cult.


Whatever you want to call it, it scares me and I would not want my kid around it.

[McBenny]

Apr 21, 2015 14:19:46 GMT -5 rvasc said:

The whole I would just stay married if I stay in PA makes it seem like marriage is being taken lightly.

That's where I'm coming from. Getting a divorce is a big deal. I don't know anyone who has gone through the nastiness and heartbreak of a divorce just because they weren't really feeling being married one day.

I don't think anyone is taking marriage lightly. We may be flippant in our comments because of the level of familiarity with one another at this point.

I think we all agree. Divorce is a big deal.

[HelloSweetie]

Apr 21, 2015 14:17:53 GMT -5 @jap said:

Oh. "Culture"

Cult






Ure.

[holls2011]

I don't think she necessarily has a big issue with his "cult"ure. If so, this wouldn't even be a discussion, the divorce would happen.

SHE IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS MOST CONVENIENT FOR HER. She wants to remain married to him either way!!!!!!

JTTW.

[theseaword]

Apr 21, 2015 14:19:02 GMT -5 @twatley said:

I don't understand why the religion isn't the ONLY reason you're getting a divorce. That shit should have been in the OP. If you had been like:

"My husband has gone crazy and thinks white people are evil and all blacks are gods. I need to get my child the fuck away from him"

We would have been pulling out our wallets saying "okay, who do I make this check out to??"

I don't understand why Mr. Texas is playing any role in this whatsoever.

Because it sounds like Mr Texas is the true motivator here.
I think she's looking to him to make this all better, rather than putting herself and her child front and center. she had completely disregarded the advice to remove him from the equation, because he is the most important piece of the equation, apparently.

[McBenny]

Apr 21, 2015 14:20:55 GMT -5 @nellybluth said:

Apr 21, 2015 14:19:02 GMT -5 @twatley said:

I don't understand why the religion isn't the ONLY reason you're getting a divorce. That shit should have been in the OP. If you had been like:

"My husband has gone crazy and thinks white people are evil and all blacks are gods. I need to get my child the fuck away from him"

We would have been pulling out our wallets saying "okay, who do I make this check out to??"

I don't understand why Mr. Texas is playing any role in this whatsoever.

QFMFT

We ditched Mr. Texas on page 1.

[Deleted]

So, cult then, eh?

[Deleted]

Ok well....that religion sounds fucked up and I wouldn't want my kid around it... I'll say that.


But I thought when the religion was called out before, she insisted he wasn't extreme about it or thats not really how it was.... so...now suddenly he is extreme?

Honestly, I'm just lost at this point.

[McBenny]

Well this is where I am - I laid all the info out that I have.

Get divorced. I say move to Louisiana closer to your family. Take some time out for self. Get counseling before the move if possible and after. While in LA be alone. See where you are at that time mentally and emotionally.

[McBenny]

Apr 21, 2015 14:25:29 GMT -5 @nellybluth said:

Apr 21, 2015 14:23:04 GMT -5 @spacegirlspiff said:

Ok well....that religion sounds fucked up and I wouldn't want my kid around it... I'll say that.


But I thought when the religion was called out before, she insisted he wasn't extreme about it or thats not really how it was.... so...now suddenly he is extreme?

Honestly, I'm just lost at this point.

Yeah, I remember when pobre asked her and she said he doesn't hate white people or look down on them. But that sounds like one of the main tenets.

At least it's an ethos?

SHE IS NOT IN THE RELIGION.

[McBenny]

Apr 21, 2015 14:28:04 GMT -5 @nellybluth said:

Apr 21, 2015 14:27:27 GMT -5 McBenny said:

SHE IS NOT IN THE RELIGION.

I KNOW

So why the discussion on whether SHE hates white people or not? I don't get the commentary if it is known that she is not in that religion.

[uconn]

What the fuck though about that shit that he's into? Like, how are you even relatively okay with staying married to him, no matter where you are?

[McBenny]

Apr 21, 2015 14:26:51 GMT -5 McBenny said:

Well this is where I am - I laid all the info out that I have.

Get divorced. I say move to Louisiana closer to your family. Take some time out for self. Get counseling before the move if possible and after. While in LA be alone. See where you are at that time mentally and emotionally.

Let's have this wrapped up in the meantime. Before my hair appt please (all about me).

^This is where I am at.

[McBenny]

Apr 21, 2015 14:30:00 GMT -5 @nellybluth said:

Apr 21, 2015 14:29:15 GMT -5 McBenny said:

So why the discussion on whether SHE hates white people or not? I don't get the commentary if it is known that she is not in that religion.

I didn't say she. I said he. Pobre asked her if he hates people. She said he does not.

Oh. Sorry. I suck.

[McBenny]

I am worn out emotionally. I was going to ask you guys to help me pick a rug but FUCK THAT!

[McBenny]

Apr 21, 2015 14:32:04 GMT -5 @hilarityensued said:

Apr 21, 2015 14:29:15 GMT -5 McBenny said:

So why the discussion on whether SHE hates white people or not? I don't get the commentary if it is known that she is not in that religion.

because I guess, my default of being married to someone that is neck-deep in that, it implies some support of the beliefs?  

Like if my husband decided to shave his head and tattoo "White Power" and a giant swastika on his head and started attending KKK meetings, the next person he heard from would be my divorce lawyer.  

We have moved on. Jesus HE, get with it. You are mcbennying the thread and I am not.

[mack]

Apr 21, 2015 14:11:23 GMT -5 pearlofwisdom said:

If I stay in PA I am for sure staying married and still would be seeing the other guy so there's that as well.

I have 5 minutes before I need to leave to pick up DD.

No. Just no.

I don't care if you want to divorce him. If you aren't happy or compatible awesome. But it's ridiculous that you HAVE to stay married to him if you are in PA. And as for that other guy, you need to full stop on that. You can't see clearly when there is someone else involved. Because when you are lonely, the grass is greener. You won't give your marriage a fair chance. And if there is no chance, you know you made that decision solely on you and him, not the fantasy of some dude in another state. 

Like I get if his religion is super scary to you and you want to get away. But that doesn't seem like the case. He won't move. He is your kid's father and what's best for HER is the priority, not you.

[uconn]

Apr 21, 2015 14:30:30 GMT -5 McBenny said:

Apr 21, 2015 14:26:51 GMT -5 McBenny said:

Well this is where I am - I laid all the info out that I have.

Get divorced. I say move to Louisiana closer to your family. Take some time out for self. Get counseling before the move if possible and after. While in LA be alone. See where you are at that time mentally and emotionally.

Let's have this wrapped up in the meantime. Before my hair appt please (all about me).

^This is where I am at.

I see mcbenny had this right from the get-go

[thebay]

Apr 21, 2015 14:35:07 GMT -5 @hilarityensued said:

everyone just needs to let their vaginas breathe and we'll reconvene on this shit show at a later date.

::takes off pants::

Yes, thank you HE. Better.

[McBenny]

Apr 21, 2015 14:26:51 GMT -5 McBenny said:

Well this is where I am - I laid all the info out that I have.

Get divorced. I say move to Louisiana closer to your family. Take some time out for self. Get counseling before the move if possible and after. While in LA be alone. See where you are at that time mentally and emotionally.

Can we agree on this ^^^^ ?

Given all the info we have now - open marriage, culture, no family in PA, etc.

[mack]

Apr 21, 2015 14:19:02 GMT -5 @twatley said:

I don't understand why the religion isn't the ONLY reason you're getting a divorce. That shit should have been in the OP. If you had been like:

"My husband has gone crazy and thinks white people are evil and all blacks are gods. I need to get my child the fuck away from him"

We would have been pulling out our wallets saying "okay, who do I make this check out to??"

I don't understand why Mr. Texas is playing any role in this whatsoever.

Because that's not actually what is bothering her.

[Deleted]

Apr 21, 2015 14:35:07 GMT -5 @hilarityensued said:

everyone just needs to let their vaginas breathe and we'll reconvene on this shit show at a later date.

I'm wearing a maxi skirt with no underwear. My vagina is getting all the fresh air.

[Deleted]

PoW. Get a divorce. Start therapy for yourself.

And then make plans to move you and your daughter closer to your family. And then spend a year single before starting to date again.

And consider the effect of all of this on your daughter. I say that because I know what you have issues regarding your mom and your childhood, so I don't want your daughter to feel trapped by the same feelings of abandonment and loneliness. She has a dad who loves her, but who won't be in her daily life. She has a mom who loves her, but who is trying to figure out what makes *her* happy. All of it is okay, but all of it can cause problems for your child.

[mack]

The tenants of that cultligon is really irrelevant. Whether they are bad or not is a non-mother fucking factor because she's not trying to say that his new beliefs are concerning to her.