GoT #4

[rablissful]

May 3, 2015 21:45:47 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

May 3, 2015 21:36:12 GMT -5 rablissful said:

ETA: She does have Tyrion coming to her. She isn't totally fucked yet.

And I quoted myself instead of editing. That means I should go to bed but this episode has me all stressed out!

Did you read the 5th book? 

Yes, I read them all. They have fucked with them so much though I can't rely on that knowledge anymore. Plus they've already screwed with Tyrion's plotline, so he may actually get to her.

Barristan is supposed to be a speaking character in book 6 for example...

[SheilaTheTank]

May 3, 2015 21:54:17 GMT -5 rablissful said:

May 3, 2015 21:45:47 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

Did you read the 5th book? 

Yes, I read them all. They have fucked with them so much though I can't rely on that knowledge anymore. Plus they've already screwed with Tyrion's plotline, so he may actually get to her.

Barristan is supposed to be a speaking character in book 6 for example...

Sadly one of the few things I'm looking forward to is for them to introduce "pretty pig".

[rablissful]

May 3, 2015 21:56:01 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

May 3, 2015 21:54:17 GMT -5 rablissful said:

Yes, I read them all. They have fucked with them so much though I can't rely on that knowledge anymore. Plus they've already screwed with Tyrion's plotline, so he may actually get to her.

Barristan is supposed to be a speaking character in book 6 for example...

Sadly one of the few things I'm looking forward to is for them to introduce "pretty pig".

I'm not holding my breath for most of that plotline, as much as I hate to say it.

[pismoduo]

May 3, 2015 21:57:47 GMT -5 rablissful said:

May 3, 2015 21:56:01 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

Sadly one of the few things I'm looking forward to is for them to introduce "pretty pig".

I'm not holding my breath for most of that plotline, as much as I hate to say it.

I believe they cut the back story for that plot line, didn't they? I don't think they had the jousting dwarves at the Purple Wedding in the show.

[LadyNymeria]

May 3, 2015 22:11:39 GMT -5 pismoduo said:

May 3, 2015 21:57:47 GMT -5 rablissful said:

I'm not holding my breath for most of that plotline, as much as I hate to say it.

I believe they cut the back story for that plot line, didn't they? I don't think they had the jousting dwarves at the Purple Wedding in the show.

The ones dressed as Renley, Robb Stark, Joffrey, etc? I haven't read all the books yet but they had dwarves "fighting" at the wedding.

[Andrea]

I couldn't resist! They killed Barristan?!?? Agh this is killing me!

[rablissful]

May 3, 2015 22:11:39 GMT -5 pismoduo said:

May 3, 2015 21:57:47 GMT -5 rablissful said:

I'm not holding my breath for most of that plotline, as much as I hate to say it.

I believe they cut the back story for that plot line, didn't they? I don't think they had the jousting dwarves at the Purple Wedding in the show.

Correct. This is why I'm not holding my breath for that plotline, which sucks!

ETA they did have jousting dwarves, but not the brother and sister (the sister being the one he meets later). I noticed that right away during the purple wedding.

[mosdub]

May 3, 2015 21:03:18 GMT -5 rablissful said:

May 3, 2015 21:02:00 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

Grey worm didn't die unless I missed something.

He didn't, bit they left it ambiguous. In theory he was stabbed so if no help gets to him he could die, but I don't think they're idiotic enough to kill both of them. But I don't know anything anymore.

If they kill them both maybe that will make Dani all the more desperate to pardon Jorah and allow him back? 

[goldenlove3]

I was more excited to see the preview for next week. After Barristan and Grey Worm were killed (I don't think Grey Worm is dead though), I said to H she needs to stop being such a little bitch and release her dragons! Then the preview shows Tyrion with a dragon flying over his head.

Also, yes about R+L=J.

SPOILER: Click to show

They are suddenly talking about Rhaegar and Lyanna quite a bit. When they showed the "previously on" scenes I got excited. Lots of stuff happening with Jon Snow lately.

I never read the books and I don't think I will based on everyone's disappointment lately. I'm just going to enjoy the show for what it is. Maybe eventually I'll read the books. But who am I kidding.. I don't read often and those are long books.

[ironbaby]

OK, finally checking in here:

Dany's eyebrows have always bothered me.

H actually said "You know nothing Jon Snow" and then she said it! He got pretty smug. Point is, I do not like her messing with Jon Snow. I hate her, and I love him, and I am getting to the point where I need someone to hang onto.

Speaking of...I said out loud, "They cannot kill Grey Worm!" I really hope he's not dead. Then again, I hope Selmy isn't dead, too. I was pissed, though. 7 Unsullied should be able to face double their number in Sons of the Harpy. And that whole scene looked like they meant for it to be epic, but it fell very flat.

Jamie's story line - this is going to get interesting. I wonder if the Sand Snakes follow through on their plan against Myrcella.

Dany is supposed to feel like she is losing control. I assume they are following that storyline from the book, so we are supposed to feel her losing her grip and not being an effective ruler. Hizhdar is a creepy dude, though.

I am looking forward to seeing how Sansa/Ramsey/Stannis plays out.

[joy]

Spoilers! Please, people - use the spoilers button. I had to skim all of page two.

No R+L=J stuff. Some of us haven't read the books remember.

[goldenlove3]

May 4, 2015 7:33:55 GMT -5 joy said:

Spoilers! Please, people - use the spoilers button. I had to skim all of page two.

No R+L=J stuff. Some of us haven't read the books remember.

I don't think R+L=J is in the books yet. It's just fan theory.

[rablissful]

May 4, 2015 7:33:55 GMT -5 joy said:

Spoilers! Please, people - use the spoilers button. I had to skim all of page two.

No R+L=J stuff. Some of us haven't read the books remember.

R+L=J isn't in the books, as goldenlove3 said. It's all fan theory (that came to light moreso because of the show than the books... although the theory was still present with the books). Nobody knows if it's true or not.

[joy]

May 4, 2015 7:45:19 GMT -5 goldenlove3 said:

May 4, 2015 7:33:55 GMT -5 joy said:

Spoilers! Please, people - use the spoilers button. I had to skim all of page two.

No R+L=J stuff. Some of us haven't read the books remember.

I don't think R+L=J is in the books yet. It's just fan theory.

But it has come from people who have read the books. It's not in the show at all.

EDIT - gah - I knooooow that. But it grew from people who read the books. If you don't have that background and reference then you're giving shit away. This isn't that complicated.

[goldenlove3]

May 4, 2015 8:01:17 GMT -5 joy said:

May 4, 2015 7:45:19 GMT -5 goldenlove3 said:

I don't think R+L=J is in the books yet. It's just fan theory.

But it has come from people who have read the books. It's not in the show at all.

EDIT - gah - I knooooow that. But it grew from people who read the books. If you don't have that background and reference then you're giving shit away. This isn't that complicated.

I've missed so many details from the show that I just assumed it was in both. 

[LadyNymeria]

May 4, 2015 8:01:17 GMT -5 joy said:

May 4, 2015 7:45:19 GMT -5 goldenlove3 said:

I don't think R+L=J is in the books yet. It's just fan theory.

But it has come from people who have read the books. It's not in the show at all.

EDIT - gah - I knooooow that. But it grew from people who read the books. If you don't have that background and reference then you're giving shit away. This isn't that complicated.

I read a ton on the theory before ever picking up the books and didn't feel like it gave away anything. 

[joy]

May 4, 2015 8:17:30 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

May 4, 2015 8:01:17 GMT -5 joy said:

But it has come from people who have read the books. It's not in the show at all.

EDIT - gah - I knooooow that. But it grew from people who read the books. If you don't have that background and reference then you're giving shit away. This isn't that complicated.

I read a ton on the theory before ever picking up the books and didn't feel like it gave away anything. 

Yes it does. It calls into question the history if a central character and gives that character some seriously interesting implications.

If it's real, it's a huge twist.

All I'm asking for is use of spoiler button if you're going outside of episode stuff.

[mynameiscarrie]

I'll say that I don't read the books and I have no inclination to read them so my thoughts have to do only with the show.

+1 to Daenerys being fucked. She used to be awesome. Now she's making awful decisions and it's causing way more harm than good. Makes me wonder if I even want to see her in the Iron Throne.

If Grey Worm is dead I will be so pissed. Last night I said outloud "I swear to God, if Grey Worm dies, I will never watch this show again." I was probably bluffing but I am so upset about his potential death.

I feel really bad for Tommen. He seems really innocent and he's being put into these situations he's not ready to be in, king or not. He's the compete opposite of Joffrey right now.

Also, +1 to the **gaaaaasp** that happened when Ygritte's catchphrase made a comeback.

[LadyNymeria]

May 4, 2015 9:52:47 GMT -5 mynameiscarrie said:

I'll say that I don't read the books and I have no inclination to read them so my thoughts have to do only with the show.

+1 to Daenerys being fucked. She used to be awesome. Now she's making awful decisions and it's causing way more harm than good. Makes me wonder if I even want to see her in the Iron Throne.

If Grey Worm is dead I will be so pissed. Last night I said outloud "I swear to God, if Grey Worm dies, I will never watch this show again." I was probably bluffing but I am so upset about his potential death.

I feel really bad for Tommen. He seems really innocent and he's being put into these situations he's not ready to be in, king or not. He's the compete opposite of Joffrey right now.

Also, +1 to the **gaaaaasp** that happened when Ygritte's catchphrase made a comeback.

Yes! When the commoners around the Sept started calling him a bastard I felt so badly for him! He's so young and being pulled in different directions by Margaery and Cersei, then to have the crowd yell at him like that. He seems like a sweet kid so far, unlike his asshole brother, so I feel bad for him.

[mynameiscarrie]

May 4, 2015 12:24:42 GMT -5 @emilie818 said:

May 4, 2015 9:52:47 GMT -5 mynameiscarrie said:

I'll say that I don't read the books and I have no inclination to read them so my thoughts have to do only with the show.

+1 to Daenerys being fucked. She used to be awesome. Now she's making awful decisions and it's causing way more harm than good. Makes me wonder if I even want to see her in the Iron Throne.

If Grey Worm is dead I will be so pissed. Last night I said outloud "I swear to God, if Grey Worm dies, I will never watch this show again." I was probably bluffing but I am so upset about his potential death.

I feel really bad for Tommen. He seems really innocent and he's being put into these situations he's not ready to be in, king or not. He's the compete opposite of Joffrey right now.

Also, +1 to the **gaaaaasp** that happened when Ygritte's catchphrase made a comeback.

I really like the fact that Dany is shown as being an imperfect leader.  She has been so touted as this "Mother of Dragons" that one forgets that she is a young woman with very little leadership experience.  It will be interesting to see how Varys reacts if/when he shows up and sees the mess his savior has made.

I agree. I think she just needs to be brought down a peg and I'm hoping that happens soon. Right now she comes off as this entitled brat who only wants to do things her way. Kind of like Joffrey- just in a prettier package without all  the death on purpose. Kind of interesting, actually, now that I think about it. 

ETA: Siggy warning!! I'm sorry. I forgot to click the "hide signature" box.

[ironbaby]

Dany has a lot of room to grow as a leader. I am excited to watch that progression.

Tommen does too, but he is too meek. Easily controlled by the women in his life, which is going to make the struggle between Margaery and Cersei very interesting in coming weeks, I am sure. The Faith Militant seem to be a huge mistake on his part. I forsee them getting very out of control. I'm kinda shocked that the Kingsguard weren't more forceful in getting Tommen to the High Sparrow.

[zombiesquad]

LadyNymeria, pardon my ignorance, but is Nymeria a popular name in Westeros? Not having read the books, I noticed one of the sand snakes' names was Nymeria, but I also remember a dire wolf being named Nymeria. Any correlation?

ETA: This question really is for anyone, but tagged you because, well, duh

[rablissful]

May 4, 2015 13:46:20 GMT -5 zombiesquad said:

LadyNymeria, pardon my ignorance, but is Nymeria a popular name in Westeros? Not having read the books, I noticed one of the sand snakes' names was Nymeria, but I also remember a dire wolf being named Nymeria. Any correlation?

ETA: This question really is for anyone, but tagged you because, well, duh

She was a strong female warrior, which is why Arya chose that name for her direwold... I believe she was a Targaeryen that rode a dragon into battle.

Please correct me LadyNymeria

[LadyNymeria]

May 4, 2015 13:46:20 GMT -5 zombiesquad said:

LadyNymeria, pardon my ignorance, but is Nymeria a popular name in Westeros? Not having read the books, I noticed one of the sand snakes' names was Nymeria, but I also remember a dire wolf being named Nymeria. Any correlation?

ETA: This question really is for anyone, but tagged you because, well, duh

rablissful had the right idea. She was considered a "warrior queen" and was a Princess of Rhoynar. She led her people to Dorne after Rhoyne was conquered by Valyria and married Lord Martell. That's the same Martell family that is still ruling Dorne now in the show.

It is considered a popular name in Dorne (not Westeros). Both Nymeria Sand and Arya's direwolf Nymeria were named after the warrior queen Nymeria. Arya liked the name for her wolf because it's associated with such a strong woman.

The one correction to rablissful's post is that I'm pretty sure she has no Targaryen blood.

[zombiesquad]

May 4, 2015 14:16:47 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

May 4, 2015 13:46:20 GMT -5 zombiesquad said:

LadyNymeria, pardon my ignorance, but is Nymeria a popular name in Westeros? Not having read the books, I noticed one of the sand snakes' names was Nymeria, but I also remember a dire wolf being named Nymeria. Any correlation?

ETA: This question really is for anyone, but tagged you because, well, duh

rablissful had the right idea. She was considered a "warrior queen" and was a Princess of Rhoynar. She led her people to Dorne after Rhoyne was conquered by Valyria and married Lord Martell. That's the same Martell family that is still ruling Dorne now in the show.

It is considered a popular name in Dorne (not Westeros). Both Nymeria Sand and Arya's direwolf Nymeria were named after the warrior queen Nymeria. Arya liked the name for her wolf because it's associated with such a strong woman.

The one correction to rablissful's post is that I'm pretty sure she has no Targaryen blood.

Thank you both for the clarification!

[rablissful]

May 4, 2015 14:16:47 GMT -5 LadyNymeria said:

May 4, 2015 13:46:20 GMT -5 zombiesquad said:

LadyNymeria, pardon my ignorance, but is Nymeria a popular name in Westeros? Not having read the books, I noticed one of the sand snakes' names was Nymeria, but I also remember a dire wolf being named Nymeria. Any correlation?

ETA: This question really is for anyone, but tagged you because, well, duh

rablissful had the right idea. She was considered a "warrior queen" and was a Princess of Rhoynar. She led her people to Dorne after Rhoyne was conquered by Valyria and married Lord Martell. That's the same Martell family that is still ruling Dorne now in the show.

It is considered a popular name in Dorne (not Westeros). Both Nymeria Sand and Arya's direwolf Nymeria were named after the warrior queen Nymeria. Arya liked the name for her wolf because it's associated with such a strong woman.

The one correction to rablissful's post is that I'm pretty sure she has no Targaryen blood.

THANK YOU! I assumed Targaryen, I just knew she was definitely a warrior queen type.