I can dig this. have never thought "I want to drink a beer with him"
Although I guess I can appreciate the First Lady's fight against Childhood Obesity but otherwise, no thanks.
I DEF want to have a beer with them, and I don't even drink beer! I think they are the bee's knees.
ETA: They sent us a congratulatory letter for our wedding, and I am SURE that they signed it personally! It was certainly not stamped by some intern in a mail room.
I'm not a huge Kate Middleton fan either but it may be that she is still finding her place in the family. If I was her I'd be keeping my head down for a bit too until I saw how things really worked behind the scenes. By having a few babies and being loved by her people she is establishing a really solid place.
I also don't see how you can even compare Kate and Michelle. Kate is at the very beginning of her career while Michelle is well on her way to the middle of it. Give Kate 20 years and then we can compare the two.
I think there's a lot of things in play with Kate. She's not from the typical background, Diana was not treated the best in the royal family, William doesn't want Kate to become another Diana, both want a more private life, etc... The list goes on. They aren't exactly typical royals and I think everyone is trying to learn from mistakes of the past and bring the monarchy into the present. I think this is very much why some of Kate's decisions are very conservative and she comes across "meek" at the present time. I'm not exactly faulting that.
But I am frustrated by all the fawning over someone who is basically famous for the sake of being famous. She hasn't done anything that speaks for her as a person other than marry her college boyfriend and have his children. I can name about one million other women who have done that same exact thing, hundreds of them being on this website.
She's made her current focus clothes, hair and holidays. Granted, this might be all that is open to her at the present time. I don't have a clue. But until she does something more interesting, I simply don't have time for her. She is in such a powerful position and has the opportunity to really do some awesome things. I would also venture to say that she owes it to the people who have put her in that position to give back. Perhaps that is unpopular - I don't know.
I think there's a lot of things in play with Kate. She's not from the typical background, Diana was not treated the best in the royal family, William doesn't want Kate to become another Diana, both want a more private life, etc... The list goes on. They aren't exactly typical royals and I think everyone is trying to learn from mistakes of the past and bring the monarchy into the present. I think this is very much why some of Kate's decisions are very conservative and she comes across "meek" at the present time. I'm not exactly faulting that.
But I am frustrated by all the fawning over someone who is basically famous for the sake of being famous. She hasn't done anything that speaks for her as a person other than marry her college boyfriend and have his children. I can name about one million other women who have done that same exact thing, hundreds of them being on this website.
She's made her current focus clothes, hair and holidays. Granted, this might be all that is open to her at the present time. I don't have a clue. But until she does something more interesting, I simply don't have time for her. She is in such a powerful position and has the opportunity to really do some awesome things. I would also venture to say that she owes it to the people who have put her in that position to give back. Perhaps that is unpopular - I don't know.
I'm not a huge Kate Middleton fan either but it may be that she is still finding her place in the family. If I was her I'd be keeping my head down for a bit too until I saw how things really worked behind the scenes. By having a few babies and being loved by her people she is establishing a really solid place.
I also don't see how you can even compare Kate and Michelle. Kate is at the very beginning of her career while Michelle is well on her way to the middle of it. Give Kate 20 years and then we can compare the two.
I agree about the age difference - I didn't come up with the comparison - I was just explaining how I ended up in this particular conversation. Also, IDK if I would call First Lady/Princess (esp Princess) a career in the same way I would call Michelle's prior life a career...
Socialite? Is that what they are called?
I donno, but being someone in the spotlight all the freaking time seems like a job to me.
I can dig this. have never thought "I want to drink a beer with him"
Although I guess I can appreciate the First Lady's fight against Childhood Obesity but otherwise, no thanks.
I DEF want to have a beer with them, and I don't even drink beer! I think they are the bee's knees.
ETA: They sent us a congratulatory letter for our wedding, and I am SURE that they signed it personally! It was certainly not stamped by some intern in a mail room.
I can dig this. have never thought "I want to drink a beer with him"
Although I guess I can appreciate the First Lady's fight against Childhood Obesity but otherwise, no thanks.
I DEF want to have a beer with them, and I don't even drink beer! I think they are the bee's knees.
ETA: They sent us a congratulatory letter for our wedding, and I am SURE that they signed it personally! It was certainly not stamped by some intern in a mail room.
SO COOL ABOUT THE LETTER! Full story plz. (Pics? hehe).
Also, (UO#2?) I haaaaaate that whether or not you'd "want to have a beer with someone" has become a barometer of leadership in our country and whether you'd vote for someone. I first remember hearing this expression when W. was running the first time.
ETA: like requiressnacks, I'd want to have a beer with any president, I just don't understand what it has to do with you wanting to vote for them...
I DEF want to have a beer with them, and I don't even drink beer! I think they are the bee's knees.
I'd be psyched to have a beer with any president! Regardless of my political beliefs.
I got to have lunch with GWB a year or so ago. He was not my favorite president by any means and I am a liberal to the core. It's still one of the coolest things I've ever done. He was so personable and kind and told really great stories.
TL;DR: It's okay to respect and enjoy someone even if you disagree with their politics.
I'm not a huge Kate Middleton fan either but it may be that she is still finding her place in the family. If I was her I'd be keeping my head down for a bit too until I saw how things really worked behind the scenes. By having a few babies and being loved by her people she is establishing a really solid place.
I also don't see how you can even compare Kate and Michelle. Kate is at the very beginning of her career while Michelle is well on her way to the middle of it. Give Kate 20 years and then we can compare the two.
I think there's a lot of things in play with Kate. She's not from the typical background, Diana was not treated the best in the royal family, William doesn't want Kate to become another Diana, both want a more private life, etc... The list goes on. They aren't exactly typical royals and I think everyone is trying to learn from mistakes of the past and bring the monarchy into the present. I think this is very much why some of Kate's decisions are very conservative and she comes across "meek" at the present time. I'm not exactly faulting that.
But I am frustrated by all the fawning over someone who is basically famous for the sake of being famous. She hasn't done anything that speaks for her as a person other than marry her college boyfriend and have his children. I can name about one million other women who have done that same exact thing, hundreds of them being on this website.
She's made her current focus clothes, hair and holidays. Granted, this might be all that is open to her at the present time. I don't have a clue. But until she does something more interesting, I simply don't have time for her. She is in such a powerful position and has the opportunity to really do some awesome things. I would also venture to say that she owes it to the people who have put her in that position to give back. Perhaps that is unpopular - I don't know.
I could say the same about most of the celebrities out there.
Also, isn't the entire royal family, just one big figure head put on display? They're like the freaking mascots of their country.
I DEF want to have a beer with them, and I don't even drink beer! I think they are the bee's knees.
ETA: They sent us a congratulatory letter for our wedding, and I am SURE that they signed it personally! It was certainly not stamped by some intern in a mail room.
SO COOL ABOUT THE LETTER! Full story plz. (Pics? hehe).
Also, (UO#2?) I haaaaaate that whether or not you'd "want to have a beer with someone" has become a barometer of leadership in our country. I first remember hearing this expression when W. was running the first time.
If you send them a wedding invitation, they will send you a letter congratulating you. I will see if I can find a picture of it. We have it framed in our living room. I think that it is a thing for all Presidents, I think it is awesome!
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SO COOL ABOUT THE LETTER! Full story plz. (Pics? hehe).
Also, (UO#2?) I haaaaaate that whether or not you'd "want to have a beer with someone" has become a barometer of leadership in our country. I first remember hearing this expression when W. was running the first time.
For me it's about policy disagreements more than social preferences. My barometer for leadership is promise vs fulfillment, when an issue is addressed, transparency of the administration, past actions that are scrutinized and are those issues addressed in office.
Holy fuck can I hug you? If only one quarter of the people in this country used this as a litmus test for our government then things would be a whole lot different.
SO COOL ABOUT THE LETTER! Full story plz. (Pics? hehe).
Also, (UO#2?) I haaaaaate that whether or not you'd "want to have a beer with someone" has become a barometer of leadership in our country. I first remember hearing this expression when W. was running the first time.
For me it's about policy disagreements more than social preferences. My barometer for leadership is promise vs fulfillment, when an issue is addressed, transparency of the administration, past actions that are scrutinized and are those issues addressed in office.
I don't think I understand what you mean here, and like I said, I'm not gonna go there on the political debate. My point was that the expression "wanting to have a beer with him/her" is bizarre in the context of whether or not you'd vote for someone to lead the United States. As your post suggests, it's not actually about whether you'd have a beer with him. It's about a whole host of other issues.
Jeans and pants are not the same thing. Every time I read pants I picture my work trousers.
So help me God if you are wearing leggings as pants in an environment that requires trousers.
Even our receptionist that wears questionable business casual items won't do that.
I've noticed that a lot of people are not dressing very professionally these days. Business casual does not mean patterned leggings and a shirt that doesn't cover your crotch. I've seen a girl here wearing a tank top with a lace back and nothing but a bra under it. And I work for a large car company.
So help me God if you are wearing leggings as pants in an environment that requires trousers.
Even our receptionist that wears questionable business casual items won't do that.
I wish I could show you pictures of the office admin. Once I swore she was wearing pajama pants. It wasn't when I looked closer but it was a very close call.
Our file girl used to do that. She was all "but no one can tell they are black pajama pants!!1!!".
So help me God if you are wearing leggings as pants in an environment that requires trousers.
Even our receptionist that wears questionable business casual items won't do that.
I've noticed that a lot of people are not dressing very professionally these days. Business casual does not mean patterned leggings and a shirt that doesn't cover your crotch. I've seen a girl here wearing a tank top with a lace back and nothing but a bra under it. And I work for a large car company.
I low cut floral dress so short your ass is falling out is not business casual.
She's 55 FFS. Grow the fuck up and dress right for work.
Flip-flops should be banned. The sound they make when you walk drives me absolutely bonkers. I get that the weather is warming up outside, but get some nice dress sandals. You're not doing yourself any favours by pairing your business wear with cheap $2 plastic shoes.
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Flip-flops should be banned. The sound they make when you walk drives me absolutely bonkers. I get that the weather is warming up outside, but get some nice dress sandals. You're not doing yourself any favours by pairing your business wear with cheap $2 plastic shoes.
People wear FLIP FLOPS to your OFFICE?
Yep
My previously mentioned offender is not the only culprit on this one.
I don't think I understand what you mean here, and like I said, I'm not gonna go there on the political debate. My point was that the expression "wanting to have a beer with him/her" is bizarre in the context of whether or not you'd vote for someone to lead the United States. As your post suggests, it's not actually about whether you'd have a beer with him. It's about a whole host of other issues.
I was attempting to clarify that my usage of the term" drink beer with" ran deeper than just surface usage of the term.
Am I making sense? Should I step away from the internet for today? I'm thinking I sound argumentative when I am not trying to be.
Haha, no you don't sound argumentative at all. IMO, you're proving my point, though, which is that "wanting to have a beer with him/her" is a common expression we use in this country around voting, but it actually shouldn't have (and usually doesn't have) anything to do with the person we vote for. I just dislike the expression because it makes light of voting and seems to reduce it to whether you imagine yourself liking the person as a drinking buddy, not whether s/he is the best possible choice for a leadership position. The fact that you said your reasons "ran deeper" proves what I'm trying to say, I think.
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