The Duggar Bombshell *trigger warning: sexual abuse*

[easilyunamused]

Jinx requiressnacks!

[ghostmonkey]

May 22, 2015 11:38:56 GMT -5 cnf2013 said:

May 22, 2015 11:36:53 GMT -5 samanthasays said:

How do these disgusting pigs have children and I can't? 

Well according to the posted article, he told both her and her parents prior to their marriage about all this shit he did. So it's not like she didn't know what she was getting herself into, which just makes me even more mad. How could she knowingly and willingly marry and reproduce with this man!?

In the culture she was raised in, she doesn't get that choice.

[ghostmonkey]

May 22, 2015 12:24:40 GMT -5 joy said:

May 22, 2015 12:19:39 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

What is the point of that? Isn't that why you child proof your house, baby wear, use baby gates, and pack n plays? Sorry if I sound dense but this is a completely bewildering concept. 

Yes, first stage of obedience.

And breaking free will.

[joy]

May 22, 2015 13:23:32 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

May 22, 2015 13:18:51 GMT -5 mustloveerica said:

I know at one point they had jobs (JB and the older boys anyway). But I'm not sure they do anymore since they do all that traveling for the show and speeches and stuff.

Jim Bob is a real estate investor and they own a ton of properties in Ark. Not sure how they acquired them all - but I researched this one day because I was really curious.

Yes, they have income beyond the show.

[RajahMD]

Fuck Mike Huckabee.

gma.yahoo.com/josh-duggar-mike-huckabee-defends-19-kids-counting-172926640--abc-news-celebrities.html

[easilyunamused]

May 22, 2015 13:27:07 GMT -5 starbuck27 said:

I'm side-eyeing those of you who are admitting to watching the show.

Oh I never watched the show. It was said on a promo commercial for thier original special when I actually watched TLC. Other things I know about them have only been picked up by news outlets and FB. I don't seek out info on them.

[SheilaTheTank]

May 22, 2015 13:27:07 GMT -5 starbuck27 said:

I'm side-eyeing those of you who are admitting to watching the show.

I watched it a few times when it was 17 kids and counting. It made me ragey so I stopped. Their kitchen is ridiculous. 

[goldenlove3]

May 22, 2015 13:14:09 GMT -5 easilyunamused said:

May 22, 2015 13:11:59 GMT -5 @debthelibrarian said:

It's all over Twitter that it is cancelled.

I don't think TLC has come out with an official statement yet though.

Even if they weren't planning on it, how bad will it look for TLC to come out now and say "No, the rumors are not true. We're not cancelling it. You were all wrong!"

[pismoduo]

May 22, 2015 13:59:11 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

May 22, 2015 13:27:07 GMT -5 starbuck27 said:

I'm side-eyeing those of you who are admitting to watching the show.

I watched it a few times when it was 17 kids and counting. It made me ragey so I stopped. Their kitchen is ridiculous. 

+1. I've watched a few episodes here and there, but the whole thing is just weird and cringe-worthy most of the time. Then stuff started to come out about their parenting techniques and other stuff and I was just done.

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TLC Pulls 19 Kids and Counting After Josh Duggar Molestation Claims

[jags8]

May 22, 2015 14:26:07 GMT -5 @debthelibrarian said:

TLC Pulls 19 Kids and Counting After Josh Duggar Molestation Claims

Thank goodness

[DanaScullyX]

May 22, 2015 14:27:25 GMT -5 jags8 said:

May 22, 2015 14:26:07 GMT -5 @debthelibrarian said:

TLC Pulls 19 Kids and Counting After Josh Duggar Molestation Claims

Thank goodness

Not cancelled, just pulled the scheduled airings.

[adorebel]

I can't believe I'm asking this, but here's a scary thought - all those kids have their minds access to internet tightly controlled. Will they even know what's really going on? Will their parents tell them the truth about the show's cancellation? Have these girls spoken of any of this in ten years?

[becwheat]

May 22, 2015 14:40:03 GMT -5 adorebel said:

I can't believe I'm asking this, but here's a scary thought - all those kids have their minds access to internet tightly controlled. Will they even know what's really going on? Will their parents tell them the truth about the show's cancellation? Have these girls spoken of any of this in ten years?

2 of the older daughters are married and probably have a bit more freedom with the internet. I would expect they are well aware of what is going on.

[jags8]

abc news posted about the airings being pulled. WHY did I read the comment section?!?!

[ohinvrtedworld]

May 22, 2015 14:48:54 GMT -5 jags8 said:

abc news posted about the airings being pulled. WHY did I read the comment section?!?!

I always ask myself the same thing. We must be gluttons for punishment. The Internet has made me such a misanthrope. 

[DanaScullyX]

May 22, 2015 14:48:54 GMT -5 jags8 said:

abc news posted about the airings being pulled. WHY did I read the comment section?!?!

Because you had a bad lapse in rational judgment?

[twocents6708]

May 22, 2015 14:03:12 GMT -5 pismoduo said:

May 22, 2015 13:59:11 GMT -5 SheilaTheTank said:

I watched it a few times when it was 17 kids and counting. It made me ragey so I stopped. Their kitchen is ridiculous. 

+1. I've watched a few episodes here and there, but the whole thing is just weird and cringe-worthy most of the time. Then stuff started to come out about their parenting techniques and other stuff and I was just done.

This. I watched it when it first came out but have heard about the weddings and such via social media. But I cannot agree with their parenting and certain teachings that shame women. It's one thing to have morals and values, but yet another to discriminate and shame.

[RajahMD]

May 22, 2015 14:40:03 GMT -5 adorebel said:

I can't believe I'm asking this, but here's a scary thought - all those kids have their minds access to internet tightly controlled. Will they even know what's really going on? Will their parents tell them the truth about the show's cancellation? Have these girls spoken of any of this in ten years?

Once the children enter a courtship, they can start their own Twitter and Instagram accounts. Josiah is still at home, so he probably won't be able to access his accounts (as I bet they will lock up the computer), but Jill and Jessa are married and on their own. Neither one of them has posted to either account since the ball started rolling on this yesterday. Given that they are probably two of the victims, we may not be hearing from them for awhile. I can't imagine how hard this must be for them. I just hope it doesn't cause any issues in their marriages, in case their husbands didn't already know. Since purity is so highly valued in their culture, I can imagine a scenario where the husbands didn't know and decide it invalidates their marriage. 

[SheilaTheTank]

May 22, 2015 15:16:05 GMT -5 RajahMD said:

May 22, 2015 14:40:03 GMT -5 adorebel said:

I can't believe I'm asking this, but here's a scary thought - all those kids have their minds access to internet tightly controlled. Will they even know what's really going on? Will their parents tell them the truth about the show's cancellation? Have these girls spoken of any of this in ten years?

Once the children enter a courtship, they can start their own Twitter and Instagram accounts. Josiah is still at home, so he probably won't be able to access his accounts (as I bet they will lock up the computer), but Jill and Jessa are married and on their own. Neither one of them has posted to either account since the ball started rolling on this yesterday. Given that they are probably two of the victims, we may not be hearing from them for awhile. I can't imagine how hard this must be for them. I just hope it doesn't cause any issues in their marriages, in case their husbands didn't already know. Since purity is so highly valued in their culture, I can imagine a scenario where the husbands didn't know and decide it invalidates their marriage. 

oh fuck. I forgot about this scenario. I just can't. They need to get out. There needs to be an intervention. Why isn't this considered a cult?

[brazilianpeach]

Quick sidebar: How long before Law & Order SVU has a Josh Duggar episode.

PS: CNN is reporting that TLC pulled the show from the air

[ghostmonkey]

May 22, 2015 15:16:05 GMT -5 RajahMD said:

May 22, 2015 14:40:03 GMT -5 adorebel said:

I can't believe I'm asking this, but here's a scary thought - all those kids have their minds access to internet tightly controlled. Will they even know what's really going on? Will their parents tell them the truth about the show's cancellation? Have these girls spoken of any of this in ten years?

Once the children enter a courtship, they can start their own Twitter and Instagram accounts. Josiah is still at home, so he probably won't be able to access his accounts (as I bet they will lock up the computer), but Jill and Jessa are married and on their own. Neither one of them has posted to either account since the ball started rolling on this yesterday. Given that they are probably two of the victims, we may not be hearing from them for awhile. I can't imagine how hard this must be for them. I just hope it doesn't cause any issues in their marriages, in case their husbands didn't already know. Since purity is so highly valued in their culture, I can imagine a scenario where the husbands didn't know and decide it invalidates their marriage. 

It also makes me wonder if the one of the older girls that isn't married didn't forgive him, so she isn't seen as fully counseled and that's why she hasn't been allowed to marry yet.

If you follow that sheet, they are absolved of their "wrong-doing" when they forgive their abuser, so the others may have "forgiven" him to become pure again but the one may not have, hence why she has not married.

[becwheat]

May 22, 2015 15:29:13 GMT -5 ghostmonkey said:

May 22, 2015 15:16:05 GMT -5 RajahMD said:

Once the children enter a courtship, they can start their own Twitter and Instagram accounts. Josiah is still at home, so he probably won't be able to access his accounts (as I bet they will lock up the computer), but Jill and Jessa are married and on their own. Neither one of them has posted to either account since the ball started rolling on this yesterday. Given that they are probably two of the victims, we may not be hearing from them for awhile. I can't imagine how hard this must be for them. I just hope it doesn't cause any issues in their marriages, in case their husbands didn't already know. Since purity is so highly valued in their culture, I can imagine a scenario where the husbands didn't know and decide it invalidates their marriage. 

It also makes me wonder if the one of the older girls that isn't married didn't forgive him, so she isn't seen as fully counseled and that's why she hasn't been allowed to marry yet.

If you follow that sheet, they are absolved of their "wrong-doing" when they forgive their abuser, so the others may have "forgiven" him to become pure again but the one may not have, hence why she has not married.

I hope Jana just leaves and strikes out on her own. 

[SheilaTheTank]

Free Jinger!

[lgraceh]

May 22, 2015 15:29:13 GMT -5 ghostmonkey said:

May 22, 2015 15:16:05 GMT -5 RajahMD said:

Once the children enter a courtship, they can start their own Twitter and Instagram accounts. Josiah is still at home, so he probably won't be able to access his accounts (as I bet they will lock up the computer), but Jill and Jessa are married and on their own. Neither one of them has posted to either account since the ball started rolling on this yesterday. Given that they are probably two of the victims, we may not be hearing from them for awhile. I can't imagine how hard this must be for them. I just hope it doesn't cause any issues in their marriages, in case their husbands didn't already know. Since purity is so highly valued in their culture, I can imagine a scenario where the husbands didn't know and decide it invalidates their marriage. 

It also makes me wonder if the one of the older girls that isn't married didn't forgive him, so she isn't seen as fully counseled and that's why she hasn't been allowed to marry yet.

If you follow that sheet, they are absolved of their "wrong-doing" when they forgive their abuser, so the others may have "forgiven" him to become pure again but the one may not have, hence why she has not married.

I was just wondering this same thing. Jana and John David (twins) aren't yet married off, but are older than the 2 girls who just married. John David was set to attend college away from the home, and will be the first one to do so.

[adorebel]

May 22, 2015 15:29:13 GMT -5 ghostmonkey said:

May 22, 2015 15:16:05 GMT -5 RajahMD said:

Once the children enter a courtship, they can start their own Twitter and Instagram accounts. Josiah is still at home, so he probably won't be able to access his accounts (as I bet they will lock up the computer), but Jill and Jessa are married and on their own. Neither one of them has posted to either account since the ball started rolling on this yesterday. Given that they are probably two of the victims, we may not be hearing from them for awhile. I can't imagine how hard this must be for them. I just hope it doesn't cause any issues in their marriages, in case their husbands didn't already know. Since purity is so highly valued in their culture, I can imagine a scenario where the husbands didn't know and decide it invalidates their marriage. 

It also makes me wonder if the one of the older girls that isn't married didn't forgive him, so she isn't seen as fully counseled and that's why she hasn't been allowed to marry yet.

If you follow that sheet, they are absolved of their "wrong-doing" when they forgive their abuser, so the others may have "forgiven" him to become pure again but the one may not have, hence why she has not married.

#narrative #futureTVwriter

[thechickencoop]

May 22, 2015 13:14:53 GMT -5 DanaScullyX said:

Hugs, Daikoku. 強さを持って下さい。

Also, big hugs to @pineappleoranges and singingsea.

+1 You are STRONG. {{hugs}}

[butlerfan]

WTF!!!and Hugs to all who are survivors

[adorebel]

May 22, 2015 22:20:04 GMT -5 b said:

Part of me wonders if, since this all occurred prior to their show between 12 and 13 years ago, if part of their crazy 'rules' regarding dating and clothing choices were as a result of the abuse? Kind of like how her miscarriage after birth control was their 'evidence' that BC is evil, against God, and a child-killer.

The sheet talks about being immodest and wearing 'revealing' clothing as temptations, so maybe the Duggars tried to 'cure' their son by forcing their daughters to follow insane rules of conduct. If they're wearing long ass dresses, then they will not tempt their son to 'stray' from the righteous path. Since, you know, it is all their wild, tempting daughters' faults...

I'm pretty sure by that time they already had at least 10 kids and were already on the extreme end of things. Their dress code is no different from all the other homeschooling families in their religious "organization," and pictures of the older children at that age suggest it's not a new idea. 

[mp2007]

I am not even that angry about josh. From what I have read, he seems like a kid that had significant issues and reached out for help multiple times. I work with children who are sex offenders and there are some of them that I believe benefit from sex offender treatment programs and may be able to eventually be a well functioning human being.

I just can't believe that the adults he trusted and told about his problems, basically ignored him. They doesn't get him help, didn't tell authorities, and didn't protect their other children. For "regular people" CPS would have stepped in and removed the kids or at least opened a case for failure to protect. I also don't understand how they would have hidden this for so long!!