WTDS 6/29

[teachermomtobe]

Jun 29, 2015 23:57:05 GMT -5 wowcheezits said:

Jun 29, 2015 18:17:38 GMT -5 teachermomtobe said:

wowcheezits, Sorry you find yourself here. Hugs for you! Have you talked to your doctor about your concerns?

I don't see why I would yet. They usually don't do anything until CD60

I was thinking more along the lines that you have been trying for almost a year and are over 35 would be reason to talk to your doctor, not the length of this cycle.

[Andrea]

wowcheezits, Hugs!

gooselover2012, That doctor is a twat. You had every right to have been ragey. Did you stay home today?

[wowcheezits]

Jun 30, 2015 7:42:58 GMT -5 teachermomtobe said:

Jun 29, 2015 23:57:05 GMT -5 wowcheezits said:

I don't see why I would yet. They usually don't do anything until CD60

I was thinking more along the lines that you have been trying for almost a year and are over 35 would be reason to talk to your doctor, not the length of this cycle.

Oh you mean a RE. I could have done that after six months of trying given my age but fertility is not covered in my insurance or budget. So for me, it is what it is. I have a history of irregular cycles which the last four months they were starting to stabilize up until now. I have ovulated up to this point.

[Andrea]

Jun 30, 2015 10:31:52 GMT -5 gooselover2012 said:

Jun 30, 2015 8:42:40 GMT -5 Andrea said:

wowcheezits, Hugs!

gooselover2012, That doctor is a twat. You had every right to have been ragey. Did you stay home today?

I did stay home today.  I had to make the decision last night since I have the early shift on Tuesday and have to get someone to cover my duty for the day.  I am so glad I did.  Finally just decided to leave my bed and am downstairs on the recliner.  H got me all set up last night with blankets and such so that I can just move between the bed and here and have what I need.  Anyone able to deliver me lunch?

My temp finally dropped this morning so I am hoping that the spotting I had over night turns into CD1.  My body seems just as ready for CD1 as I am!

I am glad that you are resting. Come utes we need CD1!!!

[dashook]

gooselover2012, glad you are home resting. I would bring you lunch if I lived nearby! FX CD1 starts ASAP!

[gabride2010]

Hello everyone! I will be spending a lot of time here, both until we start TTC and after. I have PCOS, and I have been on BCP for 12 years. Before that, I would go 4-8 months between periods. I don't imagine that will change much after I stop BCP, but who knows!?!? Even on BCP, I haven't had a period in almost a year!

Numbers: Cycle -8 (won't start TTC until February-ish)

Circumstances: TTA with BCP

Rants/ Raves/ NFNSQ: I'm trying to wait patiently to TTC. H and I just pushed our date back to Feb 2016. I think this is the 4th time we have pushed the date back. I know it will be good for us in the long run, but I just want to TTC already.

GTKY- If money wasn't a problem, where would you go on your dream vacation?? Alaska and we would spend at least a month halibut and salmon fishing, driving all over the state (Expedition Overland style), and eating all kinds of amazing food!

ETA: I hope you feel better soon gooselover2012!

[mosdub]

I hadn't heard about my blood draw from yesterday so I called the OB nurse and she said my hCG went from 188 to 155 over the past 2 weeks. Fuckity fuck, that's a shitty drop. She is going to pass a note on to my doctor to see if he wants me back on weekly draws as opposed to every-other-week draws or take some other course of action. I knew this was always a possibility but it still sucks when it actually happens. /rant

I'll update with docs orders for those curious. Blah.

[Andrea]

Jun 30, 2015 14:40:49 GMT -5 mosdub said:

I hadn't heard about my blood draw from yesterday so I called the OB nurse and she said my hCG went from 188 to 155 over the past 2 weeks. Fuckity fuck, that's a shitty drop. She is going to pass a note on to my doctor to see if he wants me back on weekly draws as opposed to every-other-week draws or take some other course of action. I knew this was always a possibility but it still sucks when it actually happens. /rant

I'll update with docs orders for those curious. Blah.

I hate that for you. Is there a way to help it drop faster? Or do you have to wait it out?

[rivers and roads]

mosdub, I'm mad FOR you. Worst wait ever. Sorry this whole process is so excruciating.

[mosdub]

Jun 30, 2015 14:49:17 GMT -5 Andrea said:

Jun 30, 2015 14:40:49 GMT -5 mosdub said:

I hadn't heard about my blood draw from yesterday so I called the OB nurse and she said my hCG went from 188 to 155 over the past 2 weeks. Fuckity fuck, that's a shitty drop. She is going to pass a note on to my doctor to see if he wants me back on weekly draws as opposed to every-other-week draws or take some other course of action. I knew this was always a possibility but it still sucks when it actually happens. /rant

I'll update with docs orders for those curious. Blah.

I hate that for you. Is there a way to help it drop faster? Or do you have to wait it out?

Thanks Andrea and rivers and roads 

I got a voicemail from the OB nurse.  I guess my doctor wants to try medication to help it drop and will be in touch in the next couple days to discuss the options.  At least, that's what I gathered.  For some reason whenever that office calls me the reception is all garbled.  We'll see what the next couple days bring!  

 

[penguin129]

mosdub Sorry about your numbers not dropping a lot. I hope you and your doctor can come up with a game plan to help them drop more quickly.

gooselover2012 I hope CD 1 finally started for you and you are feeling better today.

[mosdub]

Jun 30, 2015 17:18:35 GMT -5 gooselover2012 said:

mosdub -- So crapppy that your numbers are moving so slow. I am seriously bummed out for you! Interesting that they can give you something to help that along. Wonder what the deal is with them just not giving it up front. I guess they probably just want the body to do things naturally if possible.

Yeah I have no idea.  All I know is that if the levels don't go down on their own they treat it with a mild chemotherapy.  I'm not sure if I'm at that point yet or not.  Guess who will be googling all the things tonight?  Haha 

[teachermomtobe]

wowcheezits, FX then that it's just a funky cycle and you're back to a more normal cycle soon
gooselover2012, Sorry you're still feeling so crappy. Hopefully CD1 is on it's way!
mosdub, Ugh that's frustrating about your numbers. Hopefully you hear back from your doctor with clear instructions on what the plan is for moving forward

[gabride2010]

Jun 30, 2015 17:39:27 GMT -5 gooselover2012 said:

Jun 30, 2015 14:20:22 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Hello everyone! I will be spending a lot of time here, both until we start TTC and after. I have PCOS, and I have been on BCP for 12 years. Before that, I would go 4-8 months between periods. I don't imagine that will change much after I stop BCP, but who knows!?!? Even on BCP, I haven't had a period in almost a year!

Numbers: Cycle -8 (won't start TTC until February-ish)

Circumstances: TTA with BCP

Rants/ Raves/ NFNSQ: I'm trying to wait patiently to TTC. H and I just pushed our date back to Feb 2016. I think this is the 4th time we have pushed the date back. I know it will be good for us in the long run, but I just want to TTC already.

GTKY- If money wasn't a problem, where would you go on your dream vacation?? Alaska and we would spend at least a month halibut and salmon fishing, driving all over the state (Expedition Overland style), and eating all kinds of amazing food!

ETA: I hope you feel better soon gooselover2012!

Welcome to WTDS! Hopefully you and your H won't need to push back TTC and you can start in February.

So I am curious on your whole PCOS/BCP/Metformin situation.  Do you just plan on staying on BCP until February or are you going to go off them prior to see what your body does?  I was on BCP for 13 years as well and wish I had stopped taking them earlier to figure out what my body was going to do off them.  How did you come to discover your PCOS DX? It is nice that you caught it before TTC so you can get things figured out. I am guessing the lack of period while on BCP had something to do with it. Since dealing with my long cycles post BCP I have been struggling to remember what my peiord was like before hand.  Hard to remember much from when I was in High School! 

Thanks gooselover2012! I would like to come off BCP before February, but H and I hate using condoms. Maybe I can see if he wants to start NTNP in December or something like that. How many months do you wish you would have stopped taking BCP prior to TTC?

My GYN I saw at 15 suspected I had PCOS due to my long cycles and a few other symptoms, but I didn't get my official diagnosis until 1-2013 by internal ultrasound. I also know that I have abnormal fasting glucose numbers, but I haven't had any other blood work done besides that.

[makeawish]

Jun 30, 2015 20:44:34 GMT -5 gooselover2012 said:

gabride2010 --

To be honest, If I knew then what I do now I would have probably gotten off BCP a year before we wanted to start trying. Instead I stopped BCP when we were ready to start trying. I didn't know that it could take so long to regulate after stopping. If I would have known/realized that I would likely have such long irregular cycles as well I might have stopped sooner. Looking back now all the condom sex would be worth it to atleast know my body would be back to its own normal hormone levels.
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SO. MUCH. THIS.

I was only on BC for 2.5yrs and now - 9 months later - I still haven't established a regular cycle or a regular period! This is extremely frustrating!!!

Numbers: month 10 / cycle 4 / cd 92

Circumstances: mild PCOS, TTC

Rants/Raves/NFNSQ: Sorry for the little rant before, (and the long one ahead) but I get angry just thinking about it. I guess I didn't think I would be in this boat simply because I'm still kinda young. Anyway, an update for those who remember... I spotted for 2 days last week and thought I finally got my period. Except I've had no other bleeding since then. I know I said I'd see the doc come cd90 but after discussing with my husband, we decided to hold out a bit longer and start focusing on our health. So he's trying to quit smoking and I'm trying to lose weight. There's this whole "natural lifestyle" approach on both sides of our families so everyone is just encouraging us to exhaust our non-med options before seeing a doc. I hope this isn't a stupid idea (please reassure me!) but I know I can come to all you beautiful women for help and support and KNOWLEDGE. I seriously can't tell you how much I appreciate it.

GTKY: I would love to just do a round-the-world trip and stay at the all the exotic locations and eat all the strange and wonderful food! Starting with America. (I'm from down under)

[gabride2010]

Jun 30, 2015 20:44:34 GMT -5 gooselover2012 said:

gabride2010 --

To be honest, If I knew then what I do now I would have probably gotten off BCP a year before we wanted to start trying. Instead I stopped BCP when we were ready to start trying. I didn't know that it could take so long to regulate after stopping. If I would have known/realized that I would likely have such long irregular cycles as well I might have stopped sooner. Looking back now all the condom sex would be worth it to atleast know my body would be back to its own normal hormone levels.

I don't have any knowledge on the whole Metformin thing but I was just intrigued by you being on BCP and Metformin. THis probably just interested me beause all the people I have encountered on Metformin have been TTC and obviously not on BCP. Hopefully you can find a way to remember to start taking it and that it will help your your cycles even out before you start TTC.

Again best of luck to you in whatever you and your H decide is best. Only you know what is best for you both and the timing of starting your family.

Thanks gooselover2012! As for the Metformin, I started it prior to TTC to attempt to jumpstart some weight loss prior to TTC (I needed to lose about 100lbs), and because of my abnormal fasting glucose. I would very likely be classified diabetic if anyone ever checked an A1C on me (I won't let them), but I don't want the label for the rest of my life. So, I got on Metformin for possible weight loss and blood sugar control. I took it solidly for 3 months, but I could never get the GI side effects to straighten out, so I quit taking it. I need to restart it though.

ETA: Thanks for your advice makeawish. I will have to do some research on stopping BCP prior to TTC. I'm sorry you are having trouble with your cycles!

[teachermomtobe]

Jun 30, 2015 20:12:22 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Jun 30, 2015 17:39:27 GMT -5 gooselover2012 said:

Thanks gooselover2012! I would like to come off BCP before February, but H and I hate using condoms. Maybe I can see if he wants to start NTNP in December or something like that. How many months do you wish you would have stopped taking BCP prior to TTC?

Like gooselover2012 I also wish I had come off BCP even earlier.  I was on it for almost 12 years and stopped at the end of January so we could TTC in May.  I still have not ovulated nearly 6 months later and have super irregular cycles.  I thought 6 months off would have been long enough but if I could now go back I'd have gone off closer to a year earlier.  Hindsight is always 20/20.

[dashook]

mosdub, sorry for the craptastic news on the blood draw
makeawish I'm sorry you're so frustrated. I definitely don't think a "natural" approach could hurt, but if you want to explore other options, that's up to you and your H, not your families!

[gabride2010]

Jul 1, 2015 7:42:28 GMT -5 teachermomtobe said:

Jun 30, 2015 20:12:22 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Thanks gooselover2012! I would like to come off BCP before February, but H and I hate using condoms. Maybe I can see if he wants to start NTNP in December or something like that. How many months do you wish you would have stopped taking BCP prior to TTC?

Like gooselover2012 I also wish I had come off BCP even earlier.  I was on it for almost 12 years and stopped at the end of January so we could TTC in May.  I still have not ovulated nearly 6 months later and have super irregular cycles.  I thought 6 months off would have been long enough but if I could now go back I'd have gone off closer to a year earlier.  Hindsight is always 20/20.

Thank you for sharing! Were your cycles regular prior to starting BCP? Looks like H and I will need be having a conversation soon about me stopping BCP before February.

[teachermomtobe]

Jul 1, 2015 8:29:26 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Jul 1, 2015 7:42:28 GMT -5 teachermomtobe said:

Like gooselover2012 I also wish I had come off BCP even earlier.  I was on it for almost 12 years and stopped at the end of January so we could TTC in May.  I still have not ovulated nearly 6 months later and have super irregular cycles.  I thought 6 months off would have been long enough but if I could now go back I'd have gone off closer to a year earlier.  Hindsight is always 20/20.

Thank you for sharing! Were your cycles regular prior to starting BCP? Looks like H and I will need be having a conversation soon about me stopping BCP before February.

Before starting BCP my cycles were regular right up until the month or two before I went on BCP.  It was the summer after HS graduation, I was anxious/nervous/stressed about college and my bf of 2+ years and I were breaking up.  I started getting my period every 2 weeks but chalked it up to stress, went on BCP and never had an issue while on the pill.  Looking back, perhaps I shouldn't have been so quick to chalk up my newly irregular cycles to stress but I was 17 so what did I know.  I also hear you on the condom sex sucking but I'd take condom sex over no ovulation now if I could.

[gabride2010]

Jul 1, 2015 9:07:11 GMT -5 teachermomtobe said:

Jul 1, 2015 8:29:26 GMT -5 gabride2010 said:

Thank you for sharing! Were your cycles regular prior to starting BCP? Looks like H and I will need be having a conversation soon about me stopping BCP before February.

Before starting BCP my cycles were regular right up until the month or two before I went on BCP.  It was the summer after HS graduation, I was anxious/nervous/stressed about college and my bf of 2+ years and I were breaking up.  I started getting my period every 2 weeks but chalked it up to stress, went on BCP and never had an issue while on the pill.  Looking back, perhaps I shouldn't have been so quick to chalk up my newly irregular cycles to stress but I was 17 so what did I know.  I also hear you on the condom sex sucking but I'd take condom sex over no ovulation now if I could.

I completely agree with the condom sex vs no ovulation! I hope you ovulate soon!

[mosdub]

Last update-er-ino from me for this week and it is really bloggy, so I'm sorry for that:

SPOILER: Click to show

{Loss and possible cancer mentioned}Talked to the doc this morning. He said he's read up on the latest research and I'm in a rare position (surprise, statistics love me!) of my hCG not really going up but just barely falling. He wants to do monthly blood draws for 4 more months (for a total of 6 months post-loss) and if it goes up or doesn't get to reach 0 then I will have to do chemo (methotrexate). My Mom is an oncology nurse and says methotrexate isn't as bad as other chemo therapy drugs but I foolishly looked up the side effects and it feels scary. One of the side effects is damage of the liver...so now I kind of want to lay off the sauce to try and get my liver into optimum health. I'm not sure if that is irrational, paranoid or proactive thinking. Maybe all three.

I don't think I want to wait a whole month until another blood draw, so I may call and request that we keep with the every-other-week tests. I would hate to wait a month only to see the levels spiked into the thousands and we could have intervened sooner.

He told me my fertility is not at risk, though we will need to wait at least 6 months AFTER the levels get to 0 to TTC again. If I require chemo they may want me to wait longer. So...get used to me WTDS!

tl;dr - I have to keep doing blood draws, if my hCG doesn't hit 0 by the end of 4 months I will need chemo.

[penguin129]

mosdub I'm sorry you are in such a rare position numbers wise. I hope nature takes over soon and you don't have to do any chemo.

[teachermomtobe]

mosdub, All the internet hugs to you right now

[mosdub]

Thanks guys

[Andrea]

mosdub huge hugs lady! I hope things clear on their own & you don't need additional interventions.

[gabride2010]

mosdub I hope your levels drop back to zero quickly, and I hope you won't need chemo!

So...I had a talk with H last night, and he is on board with me stopping my BCP 6 months before we start TTC (which is August!). We will have another conversation right before I stop the pills just to make sure he is truly ok with this. We are going to be one step closer to TTC! Thanks everyone for your advice!

[dashook]

mosdub, all the hugs lady. FX none of that stuff even becomes necessary, but it must be such a scary prospect all the same. Sending you lots and lots of good juju!

[rablissful]

Lurking to give mosdub the biggest hugs. I'm sorry you're going through this lady. A loss is bad enough, but a loss plus the possibility of chemo is just horrible. So many hugs for you!

[mosdub]

Thanks rablissful I appreciate that