Stop Being Wrong (UO)

[Ray]

Jul 23, 2015 9:56:15 GMT -5 Ray said:

Being a waitress I tip generously *if* I feel like I've been given service as good as I think I could have given. Ex. Restaurant is super busy your the only one on and running around with your head cut off. I don't care if t takes 15mins my drink, I'm tipping you well b no know there's an asshole that won't.
Cooks an idiot and messed up my order? Not your fault.

I see you texting behind the bar while my glass is empty or there are dirty dishes on my table - you better pick it up if you want a good tip.

That being said, server wage here is clearly different. I'm glad I know what it is in some states now. Will definitely be tipping regardless when I visit. I have all the feels for this.

ETA apparently I quoted myself vs editting

[ghostmonkey]

Jul 23, 2015 9:48:47 GMT -5 Daikoku said:

I believe that toilet seat position should be equal opportunity. When I enter my bathroom, it is my responsibility to adjust the seat according to my needs at that time. It drives me crazy when men are expected to both raise and lower just so a lady doesn't fall in. Why should men have to be the watchers of the seat?

Because once there are small people involved with the using of the toilet, they don't always get the concept of checking to see if the seat is down.

[bunnyfungo]

Jul 23, 2015 9:54:50 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:50:30 GMT -5 frankenboom said:

Oh, good. Cause you definitely always know what's going on that leads to having a "shit waiter."

A lot of things that servers get blamed for (and screwed out of tips for) are things that are out of their control. Waited a while for your beer? The bartender was swamped (or is a dick). Waited for your food? Kitchen's backed up. Food is overcooked? They're training some new asshole who fucked up. If the server makes every attempt to fix problems that arise, wrote your ticket correctly, and checks on you even when they've been oversat, you TIP.

Thiiiiiis x100000.

Also. Getting triple sat and then every table is pissed that you didn't greet them within 30 seconds. Sorry, the host fucked up the rotation, there goes all your tips for the next hour.

[ghostmonkey]

Jul 23, 2015 9:52:50 GMT -5 frankenboom said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:47:52 GMT -5 ghostmonkey said:

You can tell when someone is having a bad day and when it goes beyond that.

It takes a lot for me to not tip someone at least 20%, but it has happened. And the times we say something to the manager about the server- they aren't ever surprised.

Yeah but it's so much easier to just wait an hour for your food without saying anything to anyone and leave no tip.

You make me wait 70 minutes for pancakes and then yell at my kid- no tip for you.

[joy]

Jul 23, 2015 9:58:50 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:57:54 GMT -5 joy said:

I really cringe at toilets without their covers closed.

I never realized how many people don't close them routinely before.  But, no.  My house?  Closed unless in use.

It's like people don't know how far the bacteria travels when you flush without covering. EW.

Ew.  (BUT HI!!! I LOVE YOUR FACE AROUND HERE!)

Honestly, one trip into a public bathroom where the stall was made made too small should really cure everyone of this unknown. 

Why are public bathroom stalls so small?  And doors open in?  I'm trying not to fall in the toilet while it's flushing and I can't get out because door opens all the way to toilet rim.

...yes, I've thought about this stuff a lot.

EDITed for my terrible English.

[ghostmonkey]

Jul 23, 2015 9:57:01 GMT -5 Daikoku said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:51:53 GMT -5 ♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪ said:

This is my argument: He should put it down because for 3 out of the 4 standard uses of a toilet, the seat is down.

I stand by my statement.

The entire lid should be shut anyway when you flush. Because nasty.

[frankenboom]

Jul 23, 2015 10:00:28 GMT -5 ghostmonkey said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:52:50 GMT -5 frankenboom said:

Yeah but it's so much easier to just wait an hour for your food without saying anything to anyone and leave no tip.

You make me wait 70 minutes for pancakes and then yell at my kid- no tip for you.

I mean, if anyone yells at my kid that isn't me or someone I know...no tip for them and also probably some sort of verbal confrontation. And also a rant on Facebook.

[Deleted]

Jul 23, 2015 9:54:45 GMT -5 ironbaby said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:48:47 GMT -5 Daikoku said:

I believe that toilet seat position should be equal opportunity. When I enter my bathroom, it is my responsibility to adjust the seat according to my needs at that time. It drives me crazy when men are expected to both raise and lower just so a lady doesn't fall in. Why should men have to be the watchers of the seat?

I agree, especially when it comes to our master bathroom. In the guest bathroom downstairs, though, I like to have it closed completely. So a man is either lifting both lids and lowering both, or a woman is lifting/lowering one.

Basically, I just like to have all lids closed, all the time except when in use.

We try to keep both lids down because of our cat. She likes to stick her head in out of curiousity.

[pinkcat]

The problem I have with the "I tip less than 20% for bad service argument" is that people often exaggerate how bad the service is. This isn't calling anyone out here, just the typical examples you hear people give when they say why they left a bad tip. For example, does anyone REALLY sit in a restaurant for over an hour waiting for their food, and if you do why don't you ask someone about it? Does anyone really see their server go to 10 other tables before stopping at theirs? Most of the time, no. (And if they really are going to 10 other tables, give them a break! They have too many tables to handle)

I think there are very, very few times that a server is as awful as people describe them to be. Of course we're all going to have bad service once in a while, because, life. People have bad days, some people just aren't great servers. BUT I think it's rare to have truly terrible service that is "worthy" of a bad tip.

[joy]

@wallflwr926 - how are yooooou? Did you update somewhere?

[Daikoku]

Jul 23, 2015 9:59:34 GMT -5 ghostmonkey said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:48:47 GMT -5 Daikoku said:

I believe that toilet seat position should be equal opportunity. When I enter my bathroom, it is my responsibility to adjust the seat according to my needs at that time. It drives me crazy when men are expected to both raise and lower just so a lady doesn't fall in. Why should men have to be the watchers of the seat?

Because once there are small people involved with the using of the toilet, they don't always get the concept of checking to see if the seat is down.

Then they will learn quickly. Evil laugh.

[bibliothecary]

Jul 23, 2015 10:00:49 GMT -5 joy said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:58:50 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

It's like people don't know how far the bacteria travels when you flush without covering. EW.

Ew.  (BUT HI!!! I LOVE YOUR FACE AROUND HERE!)

Honestly, one trip into a public bathroom where the stall was made made too small should really cure everyone of this unknown. 

Why are public bathroom stalls so small?  And doors open in?  I'm trying not to fall in the toilet while it's flushing and I can't get out because door opens all the way to toilet rim.

...yes, I've thought about this stuff a lot.

EDITed for my terrible English.

You have many thinky thoughts. 

[joy]

Agh - people should want to close the lids because ew, toilet and ew, spray.

Saying it's for your cats/dogs is missing the point completely.

[Deleted]

Jul 23, 2015 9:58:22 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:47:20 GMT -5 Ray said:

Frig that's brutal. How do you get a mortgage or loan? Here they don't count tips as your income (except at tax time) so only your wages count towards income when you try to get a loan. Is it still like that? Or a bit better at least?

They will count the tips that you "declare" to the government as income. They also tax these accordingly.

Where we are H is required to report 8% of alcohol sales for the night. He is a bartender and they do not serve food. You would be amazed at how many people undertip or flat out don't tip baretenders.

[bunnyfungo]

MH is a restaurant manager. He calls bad service a "teachable moment". ::eye roll:: So he always chats with the manager on duty about the service so they're aware of any service or kitchen issues. Then we usually get something comped. And then we still tip. Because we aren't assholes.

[joy]

Jul 23, 2015 10:05:37 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

You have many thinky thoughts. 

Not mentioned the pincers!!!

Slughorn: Harry!  How did you get out here?
Harry: Oh, through the front door, sir.

[ghostmonkey]

Jul 23, 2015 10:03:56 GMT -5 Daikoku said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:59:34 GMT -5 ghostmonkey said:

Because once there are small people involved with the using of the toilet, they don't always get the concept of checking to see if the seat is down.

Then they will learn quickly. Evil laugh.

A lot of times it causes them to be afraid and regress.

[goldenlove3]

Jul 23, 2015 9:54:45 GMT -5 ironbaby said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:48:47 GMT -5 Daikoku said:

I believe that toilet seat position should be equal opportunity. When I enter my bathroom, it is my responsibility to adjust the seat according to my needs at that time. It drives me crazy when men are expected to both raise and lower just so a lady doesn't fall in. Why should men have to be the watchers of the seat?

I agree, especially when it comes to our master bathroom. In the guest bathroom downstairs, though, I like to have it closed completely. So a man is either lifting both lids and lowering both, or a woman is lifting/lowering one.

Basically, I just like to have all lids closed, all the time except when in use.

Ours are always down because we have a dog. She's never been one to drink from the toilet but we never gave her the option either. Now it's just habit. I even do it at other people's houses.

[Deleted]

Jul 23, 2015 10:03:37 GMT -5 joy said:

@wallflwr926 - how are yooooou? Did you update somewhere?

I updated in the love thread. I'm doing ok, just really achey. Still no answers. It's a total mindfuck.

[Ray]

Jul 23, 2015 10:06:28 GMT -5 @wallflwr926 said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:58:22 GMT -5 requiressnacks said:

They will count the tips that you "declare" to the government as income. They also tax these accordingly.

Where we are H is required to report 8% of alcohol sales for the night. He is a bartender and they do not serve food. You would be amazed at how many people undertip or flat out don't tip baretenders.

I feel like Canada is weird maybe. I pretty sure here if you are selling alcohol the establishment must also have food available. Idk smart serve was a while ago lol

[thechickencoop]

Jul 23, 2015 8:18:58 GMT -5 easilyunamused said:

House spiders don't freak me out. I just let them go about their business.

+1 well...I usually kill them, but not shrieking. Just a casual grab a tissue, squish.

I walked into my office this morning to see the only two other people here before me BOTH on their desks because there was a giant bug on the floor. Luckily I was there to rescue them ::eyeroll::

[ghostmonkey]

Jul 23, 2015 10:08:55 GMT -5 Ray said:

Jul 23, 2015 10:06:28 GMT -5 @wallflwr926 said:

Where we are H is required to report 8% of alcohol sales for the night. He is a bartender and they do not serve food. You would be amazed at how many people undertip or flat out don't tip baretenders.

I feel like Canada is weird maybe. I pretty sure here if you are selling alcohol the establishment must also have food available. Idk smart serve was a while ago lol

So you don't have bars?

[Deleted]

Jul 23, 2015 10:08:55 GMT -5 Ray said:

Jul 23, 2015 10:06:28 GMT -5 @wallflwr926 said:

Where we are H is required to report 8% of alcohol sales for the night. He is a bartender and they do not serve food. You would be amazed at how many people undertip or flat out don't tip baretenders.

I feel like Canada is weird maybe. I pretty sure here if you are selling alcohol the establishment must also have food available. Idk smart serve was a while ago lol

They have snack food on the bar, but no kitchen. There is some rule that allows for this type of setup.

[ghostmonkey]

Jul 23, 2015 10:11:32 GMT -5 @wallflwr926 said:

Jul 23, 2015 10:08:55 GMT -5 Ray said:

I feel like Canada is weird maybe. I pretty sure here if you are selling alcohol the establishment must also have food available. Idk smart serve was a while ago lol

They have snack food on the bar, but no kitchen. There is some rule that allows for this type of setup.

So having a few bags of chips for sale covers this requirement?

[shadesofgold]

I'm already so behind!

Adam Levine is fine but not on my hall pass.

Spiders are yucky.

I have never heard of a Stag and Doe or a Jack and Jill and for that I am grateful.

Trump is a garbage person and it makes me sick how much support he seems to be getting.

Most of the opposition to "living wage" for service workers is based on false values and discrimination. Fast food workers may not have "worked their way" through high levels of education or whatever, but they probably work harder every day than most people making six-figure salaries. Don't kid yourself that just because you got a BA means that your work is more difficult day to day than someone who didn't graduate high school. Probably the inverse.

If I get "shitty" service I'm still tipping 15%.

It drives me crazy that I can't tip on my card at Starbucks or the like. I rarely carry cash but I believe in tipping baristas. (I was one.)

[♪♫choppinbroccoli♫♪]

Jul 23, 2015 10:11:52 GMT -5 powerofbacon said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:28:20 GMT -5 @ismellbooks said:

I would have killed for $9 an hour. I pulled down a staggering $2.13.

$3.74, which was the highest in CT at the time. Never thought I would say this, but thank God for TGIFriday's.

I think I actually still have my suspenders.

[goldenlove3]

Jul 23, 2015 10:05:54 GMT -5 joy said:

Agh - people should want to close the lids because ew, toilet and ew, spray.

Saying it's for your cats/dogs is missing the point completely.

This thread is suddenly moving so quick! I was going to add a comment that I also thought it was gross to flush without it down but didn't know if I was being dramatic. I've read about fecal matter on tooth brushes and DNW. 

[TrickyJedi]

Jul 23, 2015 9:58:50 GMT -5 bibliothecary said:

Jul 23, 2015 9:57:54 GMT -5 joy said:

I really cringe at toilets without their covers closed.

I never realized how many people don't close them routinely before.  But, no.  My house?  Closed unless in use.

It's like people don't know how far the bacteria travels when you flush without covering. EW.

I had a roommate years ago that believed it was bad feng shui to leave a toilet seat up, (it allows positive energy to flow out and negative energy to come in), unless it was being used at the time. To this day I put the seat down.

[Daikoku]

Jul 23, 2015 10:07:56 GMT -5 ghostmonkey said:

Jul 23, 2015 10:03:56 GMT -5 Daikoku said:

Then they will learn quickly. Evil laugh.

A lot of times it causes them to be afraid and regress.

This is a fair point. I might change my mind if I have children (or cats- which will never happen), but for now I will fight seat inequality. I just don't see how a grown ass woman complains that she fell in and gets super angry at the men in the house. At the very least just check seat position as you enter the bathroom.

[Deleted]

Jul 23, 2015 10:12:52 GMT -5 ghostmonkey said:

Jul 23, 2015 10:11:32 GMT -5 @wallflwr926 said:

They have snack food on the bar, but no kitchen. There is some rule that allows for this type of setup.

So having a few bags of chips for sale covers this requirement?

They have free bowls of pretzels and chips. H's boss explained it to me at one point, but I don't remember how it works. I can ask H when he gets back from the store.