Post by baileybaileybne on Jul 31, 2015 22:35:38 GMT -5
I haven't heard of that rule either. I love this swaddle: I'm sure there is a comparable brand in the U.S.:
It means arms can be up, which my LO prefers, but she's still swaddled so her startle reflex doesn't wake her up. She can still use her arm to push her paci back in, some there is some arm control there despite the swaddle. Maybe that is a compromise?
I haven't heard of that rule either. I love this swaddle: I'm sure there is a comparable brand in the U.S.:
It means arms can be up, which my LO prefers, but she's still swaddled so her startle reflex doesn't wake her up. She can still use her arm to push her paci back in, some there is some arm control there despite the swaddle. Maybe that is a compromise?
I saw this at buy buy baby! I already had regular swaddleme and didn't want to spend a lot of $$ on trying a different one, but maybe if you're recommending it I can convince my DH that DD neeeeeeds one:P
mcp6286 I think you said it increases every two months - does that start at month two or a bit later? Z has been much more awake lately and usually does ok with his own intervals, but I can tell he does get overly tired sometimes. I think this might be good for him, but I want to make sure I'm using the correct intervals so I'm not fighting a losing battle trying to put him down.
Post by billyhorrible on Jul 31, 2015 23:08:16 GMT -5
Kristykristyleelee, the general theory is "sleep begets sleep." The more/better they sleep during the day, the more/better they sleep at night. It sounds like colic, and more like this holds true for you.
mcp6286 I think you said it increases every two months - does that start at month two or a bit later? Z has been much more awake lately and usually does ok with his own intervals, but I can tell he does get overly tired sometimes. I think this might be good for him, but I want to make sure I'm using the correct intervals so I'm not fighting a losing battle trying to put him down.
The sleep trainer suggests that 0-2 months has 1.5 hours intervals, 2-4 months has 2-hour intervals, 4-6 months has 2.5 hour intervals, and so on until the baby is a year old.
I'm going to discuss this with H tomorrow. LO didn't nap at ALL yesterday aside from in her car seat at dinner and I really needed her to nap (because when she is awake she's usually demanding to be comfort nursed). We need to try something!
We start our bedtime routine (sit outside, bath, lotion with song and bottle) between 8:30-9pm. So, she usually gets her bottle between 9p, and 10pm. On a good night, she goes to sleep between 10p - 11pm and stays asleep until any time between 4:30am - 6am. She will wake up at least once in the middle of the night, but there is no crying involved. After that feeding, she falls back asleep for 2- 4 hours and then is up for the day. She usually takes a morning nap, lunchtime one and afternoon one.
We had our two month shots on Thursday so her schedule has been a little wonky. Last night, she fell asleep for the night at 12:30 am and woke up at 6 am.
Post by islandgirl14 on Aug 1, 2015 8:12:24 GMT -5
J naps between every feeding, almost exclusively falling asleep in the swing (though I hope to get away from that sooner rather than later)... he doesn't sleep well in his bassinet during the day. I feed him for the last time between 930/10pm, which then gets us about a 4 hour stretch... feed again, and then we get another 2.5/3 hours until the next feeding. At night we swaddle and put him in his bassnet which helps him. I hope to eventually get his bedtime moved up earlier - DS goes to bed between 7/7:30, so I'd love to eventually be able to get to that... it will take time though.
Kristykristyleelee the only swaddle rule I've heard is not to do it after they can roll....I've never heard of a "magic month" to stop swaddling!
My release papers from the hospital said the new guidelines are to stop swaddling at two months and absolutely no swaddling after 3 months. This information was also on the U.S.pediatrics website. With DS we stopped at 3 months and the transition went fine. We did 1 arm out first for a few days then two arms out. Then we used a sleep sack. We will do the same w LO
My release papers from the hospital said the new guidelines are to stop swaddling at two months and absolutely no swaddling after 3 months. This information was also on the U.S.pediatrics website. With DS we stopped at 3 months and the transition went fine. We did 1 arm out first for a few days then two arms out. Then we used a sleep sack. We will do the same w LO
at our hospital we actually got a handout that said no swaddling at all for sleeping. This is new though and I think we are the only province in Canada so far that has these guidelines.
Our hospital had a no swaddling stance as well (US). Every family goes home with a sleep sack and they recommend no blankets for sleep for the first year. They also told us LO should sleep in a separate bed, but in our room for at least the first six months. I guess our city had one of the highest infant mortality rates in the country, so they're aggressively trying to change that. ETA: they also don't have receiving blankets in the hospital - they're in a sleep sack there as well.
mcp6286 I think you said it increases every two months - does that start at month two or a bit later? Z has been much more awake lately and usually does ok with his own intervals, but I can tell he does get overly tired sometimes. I think this might be good for him, but I want to make sure I'm using the correct intervals so I'm not fighting a losing battle trying to put him down.
The sleep trainer suggests that 0-2 months has 1.5 hours intervals, 2-4 months has 2-hour intervals, 4-6 months has 2.5 hour intervals, and so on until the baby is a year old.
My newly 2 month baby definitely still needs 1.5 hour intervals. And sometimes 1 hour. But then, like a few other people mentioned, he really struggles to nap in the evenings. We usually get random 20-minute naps after 5pm and do bedtime at 8pm. That's the earliest he'll stay asleep.
at our hospital we actually got a handout that said no swaddling at all for sleeping. This is new though and I think we are the only province in Canada so far that has these guidelines.
Our hospital had a no swaddling stance as well (US). Every family goes home with a sleep sack and they recommend no blankets for sleep for the first year. They also told us LO should sleep in a separate bed, but in our room for at least the first six months. I guess our city had one of the highest infant mortality rates in the country, so they're aggressively trying to change that. ETA: they also don't have receiving blankets in the hospital - they're in a sleep sack there as well.
That's interesting. I delivered at a hospital in a city by Los Angeles and they still swaddle there but def said no swaddling after 2 months. I feel ok about still swaddling to around 2 1/2 to 3 months and my doctor said its ok to keep doing it. They change rules so often it's hard to keep up . Plus how else do they think so many babies will sleep on their back if they aren't swaddled since they still have a strong startle reflex ( unless you hold them all night which I don't think holding your baby all night would be safer).
Post by carolyngrace on Aug 1, 2015 16:05:32 GMT -5
My sister swaddled her babies until close to 6 months... Hm... I'm not looking forward to giving up the swaddle. It's like instant sleep with that thing.
My sister swaddled her babies until close to 6 months... Hm... I'm not looking forward to giving up the swaddle. It's like instant sleep with that thing.
Me either. I feel like I can kiss my sleep bye bye when that time comes...
My sister swaddled her babies until close to 6 months... Hm... I'm not looking forward to giving up the swaddle. It's like instant sleep with that thing.
Wow that's a long time! Some people just have less active babies i guess? I knew it was time when DS was inch worming all over the crib at night every night and for daytime naps his arms wouldn't startle anymore and the 1 arm out test worked.
Our hospital had a no swaddling stance as well (US). Every family goes home with a sleep sack and they recommend no blankets for sleep for the first year. They also told us LO should sleep in a separate bed, but in our room for at least the first six months. I guess our city had one of the highest infant mortality rates in the country, so they're aggressively trying to change that. ETA: they also don't have receiving blankets in the hospital - they're in a sleep sack there as well.
That's interesting. I delivered at a hospital in a city by Los Angeles and they still swaddle there but def said no swaddling after 2 months. I feel ok about still swaddling to around 2 1/2 to 3 months and my doctor said its ok to keep doing it. They change rules so often it's hard to keep up . Plus how else do they think so many babies will sleep on their back if they aren't swaddled since they still have a strong startle reflex ( unless you hold them all night which I don't think holding your baby all night would be safer).
I think it's fine too as long as you get a tight swaddle and they can't roll over yet. I totally would if my kid woke up from the startle reflex, but he doesn't so we just dress him in a fleece sleep sack.
To continue on with the swaddle conversation... I just started putting J in a SwaddleMe, but I secure it with both her arms out because my crazy girl broke free and I knew that wasn't safe. So she just had the swaddle from torso down. Is that what the sleep sack would be like?
My understanding is the no swaddle recommendations don't have anything to do with whether the baby can roll or not. It's because the startle reflex is actually a natural SIDS prevention.
That's interesting tulips114! I had no idea! erbear I think at that point, it may be concern that little ones can start pulling the blanket and could then pull it over their face.
My understanding is the no swaddle recommendations don't have anything to do with whether the baby can roll or not. It's because the startle reflex is actually a natural SIDS prevention.
So I did a lot of reading on this yesterday. The SIDS concern is twofold: 1) rolling. Because all the SIDS death with swaddles found the baby on its stomach. The main person cited for the 2 month rule is Dr. Moon, who advocates 2 months because it's before they could possibly start rolling. 2) chest restriction. Swaddling too tightly constricts the chest and can cause breathing problems, and as of right now, everything we know about SIDS indicates it's respiratory.
There's also a concern about hips, but I'm fairly sure most of us keep hips and legs loose/free in the swaddle.
One of the big things mentioned by several sources is using 2 months because it's before infants start childcare, and while a parent or two in charge of one child can monitor a swaddled baby, it's harder for a childcare provider to monitor multiple.
FWIW, LBB never rolled. Not ever. So we kept him swaddled for 6 months. And he was never swaddled at daycare, because daycare is magic and babies sleep differently there. I'm anticipating unswaddling sooner with BH because I have a feeling he'll roll, his Moro reflex isn't as strong, and we're starting him in childcare earlier.
I tried our sleep swaddle sack and she fought sleep for over an hour - she was calm, mind you (I was even able to shower), but wouldn't sleep. When she did cry, I picked her up and she fell asleep in my arms. Put her down & awake in five minutes again.
She just may be a cat napper, but we'll keep trying!
Post by carolyngrace on Aug 2, 2015 17:10:46 GMT -5
It's weird to me that swaddling with arms out is even considered swaddling. What do you do, wrap their torso up tightly? I guess the point is to have an extra layer of warmth without having a loose blanket on them?
It's weird to me that swaddling with arms out is even considered swaddling. What do you do, wrap their torso up tightly? I guess the point is to have an extra layer of warmth without having a loose blanket on them?
While Z doesn't need swaddled to go down at night, sometimes he fights naps so I do just swaddle his torso if I'm putting him in his crib. He's a master at pulling his arms out (even in snap and zipper swaddles) and will end up with the swaddle all around his face. It helps him to sleep and like I said, he doesn't wake up from the reflex so it works for us.
It's weird to me that swaddling with arms out is even considered swaddling. What do you do, wrap their torso up tightly? I guess the point is to have an extra layer of warmth without having a loose blanket on them?
I was taught to swaddle arms out (she's always needed them out) because the swaddle helps her "feel her boundaries."
I've never heard of the whole stop swaddling after two months rule. The pedi didn't mention anything related to that at the two month appointment. I even receive a sheet with do' s and don'ts at the appointments, and all this Months mentioned was to make sure baby is sleeping on back.
My head explodes from all the studies and changing guidelines!! I listen to my pedi and follow her guidelines,
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