Post by skategirl128 on Jan 15, 2015 7:51:54 GMT -5
Kindergarten should go back to being more play based. The stakes are so high and I'm feeling it as a preschool teacher. think we are pushing our kids too hard too soon!
Kindergarten should go back to being more play based. The stakes are so high and I'm feeling it as a preschool teacher. think we are pushing our kids too hard too soon!
Yes! It feels like we are pushing to be like China in the education department. I feel education is important but kids need to be able to enjoy their childhood.
Not unpopular for me ... how do parents who work deal with half day preschool?! Luckily I am in a flexible field and I do shift work so I will likely be able to send DS to preschool on days and times I am not in work but a lot of people work the traditional M-F 9-5. What do they do?!
Not unpopular for me ... how do parents who work deal with half day preschool?! Luckily I am in a flexible field and I do shift work so I will likely be able to send DS to preschool on days and times I am not in work but a lot of people work the traditional M-F 9-5. What do they do?!
An not even half day. 2.5-3hrs. I'm lucky I sah but I guess we'd just have to send him to a private daycare/preschool.
Kindergarten should go back to being more play based. The stakes are so high and I'm feeling it as a preschool teacher. think we are pushing our kids too hard too soon!
I think this is fairly popular, and I agree. The way stuff is getting pushed earlier and earlier, on top of expecting kids in kindergarten to sit through a full day of work with less movement than was offered in the past, we're going to start getting to a point where pushing certain things are going to be developmentally inappropriate. And I'm also seeing kids struggle more and more if they never went to preschool, therefore the gap is even wider than it was in the past.
I'm not saying to totally get rid of all academics, but there does come a point where the fine line between learning through play/movement and doing a lot of seat work/stationary work is blurred. So I guess I'm really trying to say that when there's more play based learning going on, little kids are getting the movement they need.
This is also partly why I and my colleagues try to do a bunch of movement activities with Ks during music class. They're still getting movement in the general classroom, but not quite as they used to, and they get restless. Getting them up and moving helps them a lot.
Not unpopular for me ... how do parents who work deal with half day preschool?! Luckily I am in a flexible field and I do shift work so I will likely be able to send DS to preschool on days and times I am not in work but a lot of people work the traditional M-F 9-5. What do they do?!
An not even half day. 2.5-3hrs. I'm lucky I sah but I guess we'd just have to send him to a private daycare/preschool.
Going back to your OP, I agree that it would be nice if it would be longer.
We're in the same boat. The preschools around here have approximately 3hr. sessions. I'm looking forward to having the break, but at the same time I know I'm barely going to get anything done between the time I drop her off and have to go pick her up. I kind of wish I could find a program that was still affordable, but had a fuller day option, because she could use the socialization.
Kindergarten should go back to being more play based. The stakes are so high and I'm feeling it as a preschool teacher. think we are pushing our kids too hard too soon!
I think this is fairly popular, and I agree. The way stuff is getting pushed earlier and earlier, on top of expecting kids in kindergarten to sit through a full day of work with less movement than was offered in the past, we're going to start getting to a point where pushing certain things are going to be developmentally inappropriate. And I'm also seeing kids struggle more and more if they never went to preschool, therefore the gap is even wider than it was in the past.
I'm not saying to totally get rid of all academics, but there does come a point where the fine line between learning through play/movement and doing a lot of seat work/stationary work is blurred. So I guess I'm really trying to say that when there's more play based learning going on, little kids are getting the movement they need.
This is also partly why I and my colleagues try to do a bunch of movement activities with Ks during music class. They're still getting movement in the general classroom, but not quite as they used to, and they get restless. Getting them up and moving helps them a lot.
Well, I am almost 29 and I can't even sit still for a few hours so I don't know who thought a 5 year old would be able too.
Post by BostonKisses on Jan 15, 2015 8:26:59 GMT -5
I doubt this is unpopular, and it's pretty specific to my state:
Don't jack up the gas tax because you think that's the hunky-dorey solution to fixing our super shitty roads, but continue to let the natural gas companies get off easily by continuing to not tax their asses to frack here. If you've ever driven through PA, you know that we literally have the worst roads in the US. They suuuuuuuuuck! We certainly need the money to fix our infrastructure. But let's not levy more taxes on already high gas prices (it's not as bad now that it dropped, but if they go up again, holy crap it's going to be bad) when you could be taxing the natural gas companies and bringing in a boatload of revenue that could be applied to PennDOT so they can repair things properly!
I think this is fairly popular, and I agree. The way stuff is getting pushed earlier and earlier, on top of expecting kids in kindergarten to sit through a full day of work with less movement than was offered in the past, we're going to start getting to a point where pushing certain things are going to be developmentally inappropriate. And I'm also seeing kids struggle more and more if they never went to preschool, therefore the gap is even wider than it was in the past.
I'm not saying to totally get rid of all academics, but there does come a point where the fine line between learning through play/movement and doing a lot of seat work/stationary work is blurred. So I guess I'm really trying to say that when there's more play based learning going on, little kids are getting the movement they need.
This is also partly why I and my colleagues try to do a bunch of movement activities with Ks during music class. They're still getting movement in the general classroom, but not quite as they used to, and they get restless. Getting them up and moving helps them a lot.
Well, I am almost 29 and I can't even sit still for a few hours so I don't know who thought a 5 year old would be able too.
Seriously. Even if it's just a 5 minute movement break, I need that! For an adult, a break that short is fine, but for little kids, they definitely need more.
Kindergarten should go back to being more play based. The stakes are so high and I'm feeling it as a preschool teacher. think we are pushing our kids too hard too soon!
OMG yes. DS is so exhausted after school every day. They start at 8:20 and dismiss at 3:25. They're days are packed. They are learning to read, add, subtract, count by 2/5/10s, etc. right now.
When I was in K we colored and took naps. It is crazy.
Post by namastebiotches on Jan 15, 2015 8:56:34 GMT -5
A random related to school. One of DS' teachers is the co-teacher/early intervention specialist who works with kids that have an IEP. It's only him & another girl in the class that I believe has cerebral palsy. Anyway, his thing is that he doesn't like to participate with the songs or whatever hand movement they are doing with the songs but at home, his mouth is always going singing his renditions of everything (which is pretty much all jargon lol.) Well, the co-teacher told me yesterday that he got mad at her because she wanted him to do whatever & I guess if he doesn't, he goes in the time-out chair. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I told her maybe it's because he doesn't like to perform, etc but she takes it as he is being defiant. I don't know how she comes to that conclusion vs what I'm saying but that's what she said. I don't know, if you have a kid that is not on par with his peers, you're really going to punish him essentially for not 'participating'? I mean, he does sit there with her on the rug, it's not like he's causing chaos while the other kids are singing & being perfect. I see her point but then I don't. &+ also, he's the youngest kid in the class. Goes to show how hard these kids have it.
Kindergarten should go back to being more play based. The stakes are so high and I'm feeling it as a preschool teacher. think we are pushing our kids too hard too soon!
OMG yes. DS is so exhausted after school every day. They start at 8:20 and dismiss at 3:25. They're days are packed. They are learning to read, add, subtract, count by 2/5/10s, etc. right now.
When I was in K we colored and took naps. It is crazy.
Holy crap. That is a long day! And so much stuff! I feel like what I did in first (or even second) grade is what they do in K now.
Also namastebiotches I don't feel like your DS should be put in timeout because he doesn't want to sing. I personally reserve timeout for things like hitting or repeatedly doing something that could get him hurt. If he doesn't want to sing I feel like the reaction should be "How about you listen to us sing and if you feel comfortable join in!" but maybe that is just me ... some kids are shy. I was so shy! If my shyness has been read as defiance I would have spent a lot of childhood in timeout.
A random related to school. One of DS' teachers is the co-teacher/early intervention specialist who works with kids that have an IEP. It's only him & another girl in the class that I believe has cerebral palsy. Anyway, his thing is that he doesn't like to participate with the songs or whatever hand movement they are doing with the songs but at home, his mouth is always going singing his renditions of everything (which is pretty much all jargon lol.) Well, the co-teacher told me yesterday that he got mad at her because she wanted him to do whatever & I guess if he doesn't, he goes in the time-out chair. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I told her maybe it's because he doesn't like to perform, etc but she takes it as he is being defiant. I don't know how she comes to that conclusion vs what I'm saying but that's what she said. I don't know, if you have a kid that is not on par with his peers, you're really going to punish him essentially for not 'participating'? I mean, he does sit there with her on the rug, it's not like he's causing chaos while the other kids are singing & being perfect. I see her point but then I don't. &+ also, he's the youngest kid in the class. Goes to show how hard these kids have it.
We're still really early in the journey with a lot of this stuff, but I know that pushing them and setting bigger goals is good for kids with an IEP to try and get them to see that they should participate when asked and all. That being said, if he's still sitting on the carpet with everyone else and not causing disruptions, why on earth would she send him to time out just because he doesn't sing or do the hand movement? I have NT kids in the primary grades that won't even do all of that in music class! And maybe it takes him longer to pick up on words, etc. I'd probably try to see if you can casually bring this up in conversation in a non-accusatory way so you can figure out if there might be something else going on, and let them know that you'd like to know so you can work on stuff at home and/or work with them to get him participating in the classroom.
DD is going to be 3 tomorrow, and people keep asking me if I am sad that "my baby is not a baby anymore".
I couldn't be happier. Everyday she is more articulate, independant and just plain fun to be around.
Aside from a few months of her baby hood (like maybe months 3-8, before she really got mobile), I found mommyhood to a LO that L super hard.
Like I said in the other thread, I'm not sad that he isn't a baby but I guess my sadness comes from the idea that every year he gets older is another year closer to him being a teenager and hating me. he loves me so much right now and I love that. I'm very selfish.
DD is going to be 3 tomorrow, and people keep asking me if I am sad that "my baby is not a baby anymore".
I couldn't be happier. Everyday she is more articulate, independant and just plain fun to be around.
Aside from a few months of her baby hood (like maybe months 3-8, before she really got mobile), I found mommyhood to a LO that L super hard.
Like I said in the other thread, I'm not sad that he isn't a baby but I guess my sadness comes from the idea that every year he gets older is another year closer to him being a teenager and hating me. he loves me so much right now and I love that. I'm very selfish.
OMG yes! Right now DS will just run up to me, hug me, and say "Lub you mama" for no reason and I know one day he'll be rolling his eyes at me and thinking hugging me is so uncool which is such a sad thought.
Like I said in the other thread, I'm not sad that he isn't a baby but I guess my sadness comes from the idea that every year he gets older is another year closer to him being a teenager and hating me. he loves me so much right now and I love that. I'm very selfish.
OMG yes! Right now DS will just run up to me, hug me, and say "Lub you mama" for no reason and I know one day he'll be rolling his eyes at me and thinking hugging me is so uncool which is such a sad thought.
A random related to school. One of DS' teachers is the co-teacher/early intervention specialist who works with kids that have an IEP. It's only him & another girl in the class that I believe has cerebral palsy. Anyway, his thing is that he doesn't like to participate with the songs or whatever hand movement they are doing with the songs but at home, his mouth is always going singing his renditions of everything (which is pretty much all jargon lol.) Well, the co-teacher told me yesterday that he got mad at her because she wanted him to do whatever & I guess if he doesn't, he goes in the time-out chair. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I told her maybe it's because he doesn't like to perform, etc but she takes it as he is being defiant. I don't know how she comes to that conclusion vs what I'm saying but that's what she said. I don't know, if you have a kid that is not on par with his peers, you're really going to punish him essentially for not 'participating'? I mean, he does sit there with her on the rug, it's not like he's causing chaos while the other kids are singing & being perfect. I see her point but then I don't. &+ also, he's the youngest kid in the class. Goes to show how hard these kids have it.
We're still really early in the journey with a lot of this stuff, but I know that pushing them and setting bigger goals is good for kids with an IEP to try and get them to see that they should participate when asked and all. That being said, if he's still sitting on the carpet with everyone else and not causing disruptions, why on earth would she send him to time out just because he doesn't sing or do the hand movement? I have NT kids in the primary grades that won't even do all of that in music class! And maybe it takes him longer to pick up on words, etc. I'd probably try to see if you can casually bring this up in conversation in a non-accusatory way so you can figure out if there might be something else going on, and let them know that you'd like to know so you can work on stuff at home and/or work with them to get him participating in the classroom.
That is true & I bet that's what she would tell me as far as some kids need a push. He is quite stubborn at times so he may need it. I'm kind of on the fence with it. She's told me before that the way it's been all year is that she sits with him (behind him) & manually moves his hands around like a puppet. Lol He kind of just goes limp when he doesn't want to do what you want him to do so I can kind of understand but I guess now her method is participate or go sit down. Kind of like he's had months to just do the damn thing but he flat out refuses. What sucks is that I do tell him all the time (especially when he does his little songs at home) that he sounds awesome & it's fun to do it in school & that he should sing with his friends & teachers but honestly, I don't think he grasps all that. He really doesn't know any of the words, it's kind of just sounds he sings that go by the melody which is really neat so he could feel like he's not doing it right so he'd rather not do it. It's hard because he can't express all of that & there's really not much I can do at home besides tell him it's ok, just do something so they see you are trying.
That is true & I bet that's what she would tell me as far as some kids need a push. He is quite stubborn at times so he may need it. I'm kind of on the fence with it. She's told me before that the way it's been all year is that she sits with him (behind him) & manually moves his hands around like a puppet. Lol He kind of just goes limp when he doesn't want to do what you want him to do so I can kind of understand but I guess now her method is participate or go sit down. Kind of like he's had months to just do the damn thing but he flat out refuses. What sucks is that I do tell him all the time (especially when he does his little songs at home) that he sounds awesome & it's fun to do it in school & that he should sing with his friends & teachers but honestly, I don't think he grasps all that. He really doesn't know any of the words, it's kind of just sounds he sings that go by the melody which is really neat so he could feel like he's not doing it right so he'd rather not do it. It's hard because he can't express all of that & there's really not much I can do at home besides tell him it's ok, just do something so they see you are trying.
I hear you with that. Judith's incredibly stubborn as well, and she'll pull the same stuff at home, but if I try to get her to sing with the other Sunday school kids in church, she flat out refuses. It takes a while for her to pick up on stuff, and she'll sing it at home or in the car, but even when pushed she refuses in public. It's frustrating. He may not be fully comprehending what to do, either, and I get the frustration with that as well. Maybe by the end of the year he'll come around and it'll get better.
My UO for the week is I absolutely love going to the dentsit. Coming from a mom whose kid apparently does to. Her first appt was today and she threw a fit when we had to leave. So proud of her.
My UO for the week is I absolutely love going to the dentsit. Coming from a mom whose kid apparently does to. Her first appt was today and she threw a fit when we had to leave. So proud of her.
You are a total freak!
I would rather have 10 pelvic exams than go to the dentist.
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