How is it going: Its mostly good, though these last two days or so I have seen way more spit up than before and Miss E has vomited a couple of times, I talked to the ped today about it and he told me if it is projectile to go to the ER. She hasn't been in distress when it has happened, so I am going to try keeping her upright after feedings and see if we can get rid of that pattern. Her weight gain is good and he is happy with that. There always seems to be something to worry about.
Any advice or questions: Is there a normal amount of vomiting? I have a quick let down on my left boob, IF she vomits its usually after that breast or even while she is still on it. I really don't want to expose her to the ickies of the ER if its not really an issue.
We had spit up while still latched. Now I stop her to burp during feedings. She hates it but it's stopped that from happening. It also helps me give her a break and make sure she's hungry. Some feeds we spitup a lot, others we don't. Are you sure it's projectile vomit? From what I understand, that means it shoots across the room/comes out forceful we have a lot of spitup shoot out our nose but the mouth is usually not as violent...
I'm nervous that I don't know what projectile means and I tried to get a better definition from the ped but he couldn't really give it to me. We went a whole 36ish hours now without any so I am a bit less worried now.
oopsiedaisies and motownthrowdown yeah I was pretty unimpressed with this pediatrician. If he hasn't gained "enough" by next week's appointment (he'll be 25 days old) then I'm going to push back again about the fluids. We were so excited about this pediatrician based on recommendations and credentials but her bedside manner is lacking and she didn't seem to know much about lip ties and iv fluids. Hopefully the lc tomorrow will help with our latch or confirm the tongue/lip tie and we can get everything sorted out.
Wtf. Finally get righty under control and lefty decides it wants to start spraying. My letdown is nuts. I wouldn't mind so much but Rayne tries to stop the flow by unlatching somewhat (you know the clicking noise?) which just causes gas and burps and tummy troubles. Stupid boobs, pull yourselves together already!
We're starting to click a lot over here too. The noise itself drives me crazy!
It's so inconsistent! Sometimes 10 other times up to 30. There's often a lot of inbetween time for burping, figuring out if she's still hungry, latching/unlatching etc. Lately daytime feedings are about 1.5 hours apart. The unpredictability of all this has me terrified to NIP.
oopsiedaisies and motownthrowdown yeah I was pretty unimpressed with this pediatrician. If he hasn't gained "enough" by next week's appointment (he'll be 25 days old) then I'm going to push back again about the fluids. We were so excited about this pediatrician based on recommendations and credentials but her bedside manner is lacking and she didn't seem to know much about lip ties and iv fluids. Hopefully the lc tomorrow will help with our latch or confirm the tongue/lip tie and we can get everything sorted out.
I can't remember are you ff or bf'ing? Average weight gain is 5-7 oz a week for a bf baby...I dont know ff weight gain...maybe Google average weight gain for a ff baby, if you are ff. Definitely push back and fight. Docs definitely can get into a rut and can forget how to be personable. And not a lot of peds are trained on lip and tongue ties. I hope that your LC can help! Best of luck!
Post by motownthrowdown on Sept 9, 2015 20:32:41 GMT -5
mkissa, I just googled because I'm also curious as to what defines "projectile" vomit. Looks like most sources say a few feet, but the pressure/force behind it is important too..
We had spit up while still latched. Now I stop her to burp during feedings. She hates it but it's stopped that from happening. It also helps me give her a break and make sure she's hungry. Some feeds we spitup a lot, others we don't. Are you sure it's projectile vomit? From what I understand, that means it shoots across the room/comes out forceful we have a lot of spitup shoot out our nose but the mouth is usually not as violent...
I'm nervous that I don't know what projectile means and I tried to get a better definition from the ped but he couldn't really give it to me. We went a whole 36ish hours now without any so I am a bit less worried now.
Henry was 4 feet projectile spit up/vomiting every day for 5 weeks. I actually cut out diary for other reasons and he hasn't done it in a week now! I'm not sure if they are related or if his system is just maturing. Pedi wasn't concerned because it was only once a day.
The lip tie saga continues for us. It's amazing how few physicians understand the importance and implications they have! I am so frustrated that I constantly tell my pediatrician that E wants to eat every 1-1.5 hours around the clock and spits up constantly. Her solution... don't feed him any more than every 3 hours. Ok... you deal with the screaming, frantically rooting baby then. I haven't slept in 6 weeks lady! 45 minute intervals of sleep do not count. Do NOT tell me this is normal newbown behavior and that I need to put up with it.
So the LC diagnosed a tongue tie. She recommended a doc to cut it, but couldn't get in for a long time so went to an ENT. They said there is no tie. In reality it is a grade 3 (posterior tie) which most docs aren't good at diagnosing. I left in tears. Then the ped that actually understands ties called and they had a cancelation tomorrow, so we are getting it cut tomorrow!
How is it going: Its mostly good, though these last two days or so I have seen way more spit up than before and Miss E has vomited a couple of times, I talked to the ped today about it and he told me if it is projectile to go to the ER. She hasn't been in distress when it has happened, so I am going to try keeping her upright after feedings and see if we can get rid of that pattern. Her weight gain is good and he is happy with that. There always seems to be something to worry about.
Any advice or questions: Is there a normal amount of vomiting? I have a quick let down on my left boob, IF she vomits its usually after that breast or even while she is still on it. I really don't want to expose her to the ickies of the ER if its not really an issue.
We started dealing with projectile yesterday. Twice in 24 hours accompanied by 2 substantial spit ups.. We go to his first pedi apt today. It scares me that they told you to go to ER.. Mine did not..
FX it gets sorted out for both of us.
I'm really feeling the ER rec was an overreaction from the Ped. I just have been taking it easy with her feeding, trying to keep her calm during and taking burp breaks. So far so good, no puke for over 36 hrs now.
mkissa, I just googled because I'm also curious as to what defines "projectile" vomit. Looks like most sources say a few feet, but the pressure/force behind it is important too..
She has never gone more than a foot, so thats good. Thanks for that. DH made me walk away from the computer because I was freaking myself out over things I was reading.
We are at about 15-20 min Typically per breast. Sometimes he does one, sometimes both.
I think I'm going to go to the breastfeeding clinic at our hospital next Monday. They do weighing and answer questions. We have a small bit of pain at the start of latching, but then it completely eases as he goes. So I would like their input. Also kinda just want to weigh him to make sure with almost entirely BF that he's gaining appropriately as we don't go back to the pedi till 2 months old.
I think our thrush is starting to clear. My nipples no longer feel like they are on fire. They are still tender but nursing doesn't make me want to cry. Had to use a shield the last few days and even still, it was torture.
Post by oopsiedaisies on Sept 10, 2015 0:31:50 GMT -5
I think the pain from one of my abrasions is inhibiting my letdown. But only on one side...I'm having to really work at deep breathing to get through it and lots of massaging the breast...it's freaking me out.
oopsiedaisies and motownthrowdown yeah I was pretty unimpressed with this pediatrician. If he hasn't gained "enough" by next week's appointment (he'll be 25 days old) then I'm going to push back again about the fluids. We were so excited about this pediatrician based on recommendations and credentials but her bedside manner is lacking and she didn't seem to know much about lip ties and iv fluids. Hopefully the lc tomorrow will help with our latch or confirm the tongue/lip tie and we can get everything sorted out.
I can't remember are you ff or bf'ing? Average weight gain is 5-7 oz a week for a bf baby...I dont know ff weight gain...maybe Google average weight gain for a ff baby, if you are ff. Definitely push back and fight. Docs definitely can get into a rut and can forget how to be personable. And not a lot of peds are trained on lip and tongue ties. I hope that your LC can help! Best of luck!
We're breastfeeding. He did lose a little extra weight because of latch issues but I got him back to almost where he needed to be so I was going into this appointment thinking there wouldn't be a problem. Then to be told he was right on the cusp of concern, my iv didn't impact his weight (which I know it did), and that we would need to come back in a week to make sure he was okay, sucked. I think in was just stunned. Next appointment I'll be prepared to fight as needed.
The lip tie saga continues for us. It's amazing how few physicians understand the importance and implications they have! I am so frustrated that I constantly tell my pediatrician that E wants to eat every 1-1.5 hours around the clock and spits up constantly. Her solution... don't feed him any more than every 3 hours. Ok... you deal with the screaming, frantically rooting baby then. I haven't slept in 6 weeks lady! 45 minute intervals of sleep do not count. Do NOT tell me this is normal newbown behavior and that I need to put up with it.
So the LC diagnosed a tongue tie. She recommended a doc to cut it, but couldn't get in for a long time so went to an ENT. They said there is no tie. In reality it is a grade 3 (posterior tie) which most docs aren't good at diagnosing. I left in tears. Then the ped that actually understands ties called and they had a cancelation tomorrow, so we are getting it cut tomorrow!
Rant over.
I've been really surprised at the lack of knowledge about the impact ties can have on everything and the insistince it's all just normal . Glad you got your appointment.
packmomma my baby was born via c-section and was 6lbs 11oz. They specifically told me at the hospital that her weight was inflated due to IV liquids and that section babies lose more weight initially because of this. Your pedi is clearly in the wrong!
It's so inconsistent! Sometimes 10 other times up to 30. There's often a lot of inbetween time for burping, figuring out if she's still hungry, latching/unlatching etc. Lately daytime feedings are about 1.5 hours apart. The unpredictability of all this has me terrified to NIP.
+1, minus the nip-- we use a shield and nip. I find it liberating and am keeping a bucket list of places I've nursed. Yesterday was at a mommy and me music class for dd1. My husband isn't as thrilled with the nip, he asked me to cover up at dinner with his parents in our house. I think my look was " are u kidding me." But I will use a cover with I'm out with him.
Thanks everyone, I'm very relieved and excited that someone will finally be helping us. Meanwhile, my thrush is coming back, woohoo. ady45 what are you taking/using for your thrush?
Post by runningmommy519 on Sept 10, 2015 3:48:43 GMT -5
I feel like we're moving backwards. Ethan will no longer nurse unless I have the shield on. We try Every time without it and he'll latch then he will not stop moving his head and unlatching. Sometimes he will not stop moving his entire body causing him to unlatch. Sometimes be won't latch at all. I am so sick of using that FUCKING SHEILD. I want to burn it! I have no idea how to wean him.
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