UO: If you got em, flaunt em

[dmoney]

Sept 11, 2015 11:15:53 GMT -5 @scoutnumbers said:

Sept 11, 2015 10:32:40 GMT -5 dmoney said:

First of all I restated that I dont agree he should of been killed.  I dont think the cops are right in this case at all.  But why settle before any hearing takes place.. I realized I should of said Dont do illegal things and then you wont get arrested.  I DO NOT believe that if you break the law you should be killed.  Not in any way at all.  I wrote the wrong thing and said realize that.  Do i think his family should receive some settlement 100%. But how does anyone determine how much a persons life is worth??  In other cases the civil charges are settled on after the criminal cases are held.  Also where is the city going to get the money from?  They are constantly saying how they have to cut this and cut this because they are broke.  If they cant afford to pay for Firemen and other civil workers, where are they going to come up with 6.4 million dollars? 

They settled because they were in the wrong and the city is being torn apart.

It was the right thing to do. What's wrong with you?

Please see what I just put in bold... I state that I agree that his family should get a settlement.. Never once did I say that they shouldn't.  Nothing is wrong with me.. Just want to know where a judge/lawyer/or anyone in power decides how much someones life is worth.  I believe they should settle and it is the right thing to do... but again how does a city that claims to be broke expect to come up with A 6.4 million dollars and B. how does one person decided what someones life is worth??  I DO NOT AGREE WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE. THERE NEEDS TO BE CAMERAS IN THE BACK OF ALL POLICE VEHICLES SO THAT THINGS LIKE THIS DOESNT HAPPEN. BUT WHEN A TRIAL HASNT EVEN HAPPENED YET TO KNOW IF THE POLICY ARE INDEED GUILTY OR NOT (AGAIN NOT SAYING THAT I THINK THEY ARE INNOCENT) HOW CAN A JUDGE JUST COME OUT WITH A BLANKET SETTLEMENT??  

I live in this city, its on my news and in the paper every day. I am allowed to not agree with them making a settlement before any trails have happened.  Never said they weren't allowed to have a settlement, just that I  think it should wait until AFTER the trials take place. 

[baytosa2013]

Congratulations ladies, apparently we did UO's right this week and got parenting to make an appearance. Please again for next Thursday?

[dogmama22]

Sept 11, 2015 11:13:22 GMT -5 @jemomma said:

Sept 11, 2015 11:11:08 GMT -5 dogmama22 said:

Haha as soon as I saw the unfamiliar faces, I figured it was Pareting. We had a bat signal sent from their UO board.

And rightfully so. There are too many people on here afraid to stand up against the stupidity that was this thread yesterday! 

I wish I would have seen the school lunch things faster. I just tried to explain to someone the other day about why it's fair for children to share school supplies in Kindergarten. I don't understand why anyone thinks it's ok for children to do without because of whatever situation the parent is in. Our school systems are unfair enough as it is by being based on house values, without adding hungry children to the mix.

[HelloSweetie]

Sept 10, 2015 21:06:45 GMT -5 bookninja said:

Sept 10, 2015 20:57:28 GMT -5 gigi3126 said:

Wow. You really have no idea how schools work. There is definitely "means testing" for kids to qualify for lunch. They have to fill out the paperwork every year. Also, if your solution is to raise the level of welfare because you don't want your tax money going to that, you might want to think about where the money for welfare actually comes from. School is about way more than traditional education. For some kids, it's the only place of support and security that they have. If providing meals year round helps them to maintain that, then it's well worth the money.

Okay, I was told, by obviously someone who didn't know as much as they claimed, that you didn't have to qualify on any way for summer lunches. If there is means testing, meaning it's only going to people that need it and not the neighborhood at large like I was told, then I have considerably less problem with it. Unpopular opinion retracted.

I live in an area that is so highly populated by people in poverty that the entire school district qualifies for free lunch. If you live somewhere that people don't have to prove it, that means there are too many and it's less burden on the system to make it universal. STFU with your not wanting kids to eat. Just stfu.

[Deleted]

The two low income districts in the metro area here don't have weather closures, like ever. There can be three feet of snow and no way to get through but they will still stay open because so many children depend on their school to eat, like anything, in those districts. Any penny of my tax dollars spent on children for food, health care, shelter, and education is money very well spent because it ultimately benefits us all. I truly don't get how America has turned into such a cesspool of self serving assholes who won't support anything that doesn't directly benefit them.

[bunnyfungo]

I mean, judges decide how much a life is worth all the time. Wrongful death suits aren't new.

[baytosa2013]

Sept 11, 2015 11:29:24 GMT -5 @ctg30 said:

Sept 11, 2015 11:27:36 GMT -5 baytosa2013 said:

Congratualations ladies, apparently we did UO's right this week and got parenting to make an appearance. Please again for next Thursday?

The bright beacon of stupidity in this thread has beamed far & wide.

Well this is making my Friday go by much quicker!

[Cherhorowitz]

Sept 11, 2015 11:26:43 GMT -5 dmoney said:

Sept 11, 2015 11:15:53 GMT -5 @scoutnumbers said:

They settled because they were in the wrong and the city is being torn apart.

It was the right thing to do. What's wrong with you?

Please see what I just put in bold... I state that I agree that his family should get a settlement.. Never once did I say that they shouldn't.  Nothing is wrong with me.. Just want to know where a judge/lawyer/or anyone in power decides how much someones life is worth.  I believe they should settle and it is the right thing to do... but again how does a city that claims to be broke expect to come up with A 6.4 million dollars and B. how does one person decided what someones life is worth??  I DO NOT AGREE WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE. THERE NEEDS TO BE CAMERAS IN THE BACK OF ALL POLICE VEHICLES SO THAT THINGS LIKE THIS DOESNT HAPPEN. BUT WHEN A TRIAL HASNT EVEN HAPPENED YET TO KNOW IF THE POLICY ARE INDEED GUILTY OR NOT (AGAIN NOT SAYING THAT I THINK THEY ARE INNOCENT) HOW CAN A JUDGE JUST COME OUT WITH A BLANKET SETTLEMENT??  

I live in this city, its on my news and in the paper every day. I am allowed to not agree with them making a settlement before any trails have happened.  Never said they weren't allowed to have a settlement, just that I  think it should wait until AFTER the trials take place. 

Putting your comment in caps isn't helping.

If you're really interested in the burden of proof in a civil case or how a life is valued, go sit in on a law school class. But as of now, you're just posting ignorance ... In caps

[bookninja]

Sept 11, 2015 11:31:55 GMT -5 HelloSweetie said:

Sept 10, 2015 21:06:45 GMT -5 bookninja said:

Okay, I was told, by obviously someone who didn't know as much as they claimed, that you didn't have to qualify on any way for summer lunches. If there is means testing, meaning it's only going to people that need it and not the neighborhood at large like I was told, then I have considerably less problem with it. Unpopular opinion retracted.

I live in an area that is so highly populated by people in poverty that the entire school district qualifies for free lunch. If you live somewhere that people don't have to prove it, that means there are too many and it's less burden on the system to make it universal. STFU with your not wanting kids to eat. Just stfu.

As I mentioned, I had bad info from someone, who in hindsight, probably had an agenda that I didn't know about. It was implied that the whole (and this is not a poor neighborhood) was showing up. I think it was misrepresented to me after what has been clarified re: process. I am glad to have heard from the educators on the board, so that I learned the facts. My (extremely) unpopular opinion taught me something. I'll shut up now.
Edit: I never (even in my first post) said I didn't want kids to eat. My concern was in which program it should be handled in. And I had info which (wrongly, apparently) biased me against the summer school lunch program.

[SheilaTheTank]

Sept 11, 2015 11:46:47 GMT -5 bookninja said:

Sept 11, 2015 11:31:55 GMT -5 HelloSweetie said:

I live in an area that is so highly populated by people in poverty that the entire school district qualifies for free lunch. If you live somewhere that people don't have to prove it, that means there are too many and it's less burden on the system to make it universal. STFU with your not wanting kids to eat. Just stfu.

As I mentioned, I had bad info from someone, who in hindsight, probably had an agenda that I didn't know about. It was implied that the whole (and this is not a poor neighborhood) was showing up. I think it was misrepresented to me after what has been clarified re: process. I am glad to have heard from the educators on the board, so that I learned the facts. My (extremely) unpopular opinion taught me something. I'll shut up now.

But it shouldn't matter whether or not there are means testing. If a kid is hungry, they should be fed. Period. 

[Deleted]

Sept 10, 2015 15:31:01 GMT -5 dmoney said:

I dont agree with the settlement that the states attorney gave to the family in the Baltimore City Case that caused riots back in May.. But at the same time. I dont think it would of been beneficial for them to wait until after the trails to give any set amount. Either way there is going to be riots in my city again. Heres a crazy idea.. dont do illegal things and then you wont be killed.

[b

Are you fucking kidding me?

[Deleted]

Sept 10, 2015 19:47:31 GMT -5 bookninja said:

UO: I think it's a little weird that schools have free lunches all summer long. I think parents should be responsible for feeding their kids, not the school system or the state.
If there is a need then maybe we need to increase welfare or WIC, I would prefer that over the schools doing it. Barring that, there should be means testing... I just get tired of driving by a local school and seeing the nice (some VERY nice) cars bringing kids for the "free lunch" that my taxes paid for. Maybe some of the teachers can explain it better to me...

Well as a kid that ate those free lunches every summer (and school year) Fuck your opinion

[periwinkledaydreams]

Sept 11, 2015 11:28:30 GMT -5 @scoutnumbers said:

I drive a very nice minivan. If I lost my job, or became so ill I couldn't work, I would likely need some help to feed my kids if I didn't land on something else quickly.

Should I sell my safe, reliable car that I transport my children in and get a piece of shit so that judgmental assholes in the grocery store parking lot don't see me paying with a WIC card and assume I'm cheating the system? Should I throw my iPhone on the ground and stomp on it, and then go spend money on a flip phone so similar assumptions aren't made? Wear tattered flip flops instead of the nice shoes I own? Throw away my leather tote bag and get a pleather one because how dare I have had a time in my life when things were easier? Etc etc etc.

JFC. Like, I'm honestly pissed off over here.

Exactly. I don't have a working car or the physical ability to drive right now so I get a ride everywhere I go. Whosoever drives me to the grocery store the day Im using my WIC checks better have a beater, lest I show up in something nice and get accused of fraudulently feeding myself and my family. The struggle is actually real, people. Its not happening to some imaginary poor people out there in imaginary poor places.

Judgement sucks, and if ya don't know now ya know.

[wegrowsheep]

Sept 11, 2015 12:13:26 GMT -5 periwinkledaydreams said:

Sept 11, 2015 11:28:30 GMT -5 @scoutnumbers said:

I drive a very nice minivan. If I lost my job, or became so ill I couldn't work, I would likely need some help to feed my kids if I didn't land on something else quickly.

Should I sell my safe, reliable car that I transport my children in and get a piece of shit so that judgmental assholes in the grocery store parking lot don't see me paying with a WIC card and assume I'm cheating the system? Should I throw my iPhone on the ground and stomp on it, and then go spend money on a flip phone so similar assumptions aren't made? Wear tattered flip flops instead of the nice shoes I own? Throw away my leather tote bag and get a pleather one because how dare I have had a time in my life when things were easier? Etc etc etc.

JFC. Like, I'm honestly pissed off over here.

Exactly. I don't have a working car or the physical ability to drive right now so I get a ride everywhere I go. Whosoever drives me to the grocery store the day Im using my WIC checks better have a beater, lest I show up in something nice and get accused of fraudulently feeding myself and my family. The struggle is actually real, people. Its not happening to some imaginary poor people out there in imaginary poor places.

Judgement sucks, and if ya don't know now ya know.

How about if the ones that have never had the high honor and privilege of using WIC checks don't get an opinion?
When they can fully grasp the warm fuzzies of being berated in the check out line for grabbing the wrong box of cereal, and going to appointments to have your kids weighed to "make sure they get fed" then maybe they'll get it?
Is a 14 yr old Subaru too posh for those trips?

[ashbash]

Wow what a great week to join the board - yikes!!

Im glad some of the stupid were called out and this was a great way to pass tine while in nap jail today

[gigi3126]

Sept 11, 2015 11:54:20 GMT -5 Jesslfar said:

They pass out the free lunches in the parks here in summer. Anyone under 18 gets one and once you see a kid ride the bus with his younger sibling across town to get what is probably their only meal and take it back with them for other family members you might think differently about the lunches. My only issue is they make the kids take everything in the bag and a lot of it gets tossed and it would be nice if there were a table designated for the kids who did not want the sandwich to leave it on instead of dumping it in the trash because there are very much other kids that need that food.

Ugh! Yes! It drove me nuts when kids would just pick one thing out of the bag and toss the rest. I was always trying to set stuff aside for someone who might want it. And a cafeteria worker once told me that they HAD to offer every student milk, but if the students didn't take it, they had to toss it. SMH.

[lolacachia]

So many gems in this UO thread.

Really to kids and the free meal programs? Really?

[nurserachel22]

Sept 11, 2015 11:57:02 GMT -5 @nonniedee said:

Sept 10, 2015 15:31:01 GMT -5 dmoney said:

I dont agree with the settlement that the states attorney gave to the family in the Baltimore City Case that caused riots back in May.. But at the same time. I dont think it would of been beneficial for them to wait until after the trails to give any set amount. Either way there is going to be riots in my city again. Heres a crazy idea.. dont do illegal things and then you wont be killed.

[b

Are you fucking kidding me?

Wow.

[DanaScullyX]

As a teacher, I can't with this thread. I'm way more than an educator to many kids throughout the day.

Also, it is fucking SHOULD HAVE. It is never "should of." Never.

[fuzzylogic]

Sept 12, 2015 1:21:11 GMT -5 DanaScullyX said:

As a teacher, I can't with this thread. I'm way more than an educator to many kids throughout the day.

Also, it is fucking SHOULD HAVE. It is never "should of." Never.

THANK YOU.

I just can't with some of this thread. Our large metro school district runs free lunches during the summer at some of the schools, and I think it's for anyone that wants one. Kids need to eat all the time, not just August-May. How dare someone say that schools shouldn't have these programs. Must be nice to live in such a privileged world that you never even think about how some people and their kids NEED these programs while you live in your glass houses.