(Hope that works, I haven't put a link on here before) This was one of my personal favorite 'let's see if a good guy with a gun works' experiments.
**No one was harmed.
But the 'gun enthusiasts' comments are pure gold.
My favorite comment: As a not gun nut that has had guns around him his whole life, you MIGHT be able to take a few out, but really you're just more likely to get shot dead yourself and have a terrorist teabag your corpse.
My stats professor drove home the point that stats can be manipulated. To this day, I can't see a statistic without questioning the sample size and methodology.
Post by redhorizon343 on Jan 27, 2015 21:06:55 GMT -5
Interesting read, and I agree with the author's argument.
For those of you interested in the topic of how guns affect violence levels, I recommend reading "Fist, Stick, Knife, Gun" by Geoffrey Canada. Good read.
Holy shit. Guess Casey Anthony can be absolved too. Jurors are never wrong.
Side note: there definitely wasn't enough evidence to convict Casey. I believe she did it, but thank god we have a justice system that didn't convict based on the evidence presented.
Growing up, we had a liquor store in a bad part of the city, and he was frequently robbed. Sometimes they brandished a weapon, sometimes they only threatened, sometimes, they laid him down in the freezer and held shot guns to his head. One time, his employee tried to ambush him and shoot him while he made the night deposit at the bank across the street.
He started wearing a hip holster, and an ankle holster. He'd go to the range on the weekends with my mom. He'd practice his "quick draw" in front of the mirror at night. He was trained in gun safety, so were us kids since we were frequently at the store (especially on sick days when no sitters were available).
One of the last times he was robbed (we sold that store and bought a new one), as the robber fled, my dad, a man trained in all aspects of gun safety privately and through the military, swung open the front door and unloaded his gun at the fleeing robber...directly into traffic.
Adrenaline and fear are powerful and can override all training, composure and common sense when they kick in.
We sold that store and bought a new one.
ETA: I should mention that he didn't hit anyone, or any vehicles, and doesn't remember the actual moment of firing. But the thought of what could have happened still haunts him 25 years later.
Post by princesslily on Jan 28, 2015 5:48:26 GMT -5
On one side my family while is pro-gun, they seem to be very responsible at following proper gun ownership.
On the other side of said coin, I know a couple who have said they point their guns at each other in arguments, and hide their guns in the glovebox of friends "to be safe."
That was an interesting article. I have never had much of an opinion on guns either way because I have been able to see both sides. This article opened my eyes to many things and has swayed me to the anti-gun side.
Personally, I live in a good area and have been more afraid of one of my kids accidentally getting a hold of a gun and hurting/killing someone than I am afraid of being unarmed in a home invasion and the statistics appear to support this.
A good number of my patients are in not so great areas of Milwaukee where gun violence is common. I know that there are guns in some of the homes I go into and on the people I pass on the street. Some of my coworkers spouses have wanted them to carry a gun. However I am still more afraid of the dangers of having my own gun than I am of going into those areas unarmed.
And although that like @marlasinger I am always very skeptical of statistics due to my scientific background, this article used a wide variety of studies, and even one that controlled for demographic factors that could have skewed the numbers. Up until that point in the article,;I was still a little skeptical, thinking it had more to do with the population and type of people who were more likely to own guns and participate in criminal activity.
I don't know if my rambling made any sense and this is TL;DR, but I have been swayed from the middle to the anti-gun side.
Oh, and the Zina Daniel mentioned in the article was my hair stylist. It says she was from Illinois (which I think she was originally) but she lived in a suburb of Milwaukee. Her husband came into the salon while she was working and killed her and 2 others and shot 4 more. I had been meaning to get my hair cut for awhile and just kept putting it off. It's unlikely I would have made an appointment for a Sunday but it was still haunting to think that it would have been a possibility of I had gotten my act together and made an appointment.
On one side my family while is pro-gun, they seem to be very responsible at following proper gun ownership.
On the other side of said coin, I know a couple who have said they point their guns at each other in arguments, and hide their guns in the glovebox of friends "to be safe."
So this couple hides their guns in other people's glove boxes?
On one side my family while is pro-gun, they seem to be very responsible at following proper gun ownership.
On the other side of said coin, I know a couple who have said they point their guns at each other in arguments, and hide their guns in the glovebox of friends "to be safe."
Post by princesslily on Jan 28, 2015 9:20:41 GMT -5
Well, they certainly didn't tell me.
I dropped off my (ex) friend off at home, and got a call 5min later - she told me to turn around and come back because she forgot something in my car. I didnt see anything after a quick glance...she then said, "Its my gun, its in the glovebox."
On one side my family while is pro-gun, they seem to be very responsible at following proper gun ownership.
On the other side of said coin, I know a couple who have said they point their guns at each other in arguments, and hide their guns in the glovebox of friends "to be safe."
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