I haven't shaved my legs in 3 weeks. Or my pits. Apparently I am French now.
Girl! Shave.your.pits!!!
But I totally feel you on the whirlwind 2 minute shower with screaming kids :/ meanwhile DH gets to take 30 minute poops, I so want to cone back as a Dad in my next life
I've considered telling him I'm going to take a 30 minute nap, just for the hell of it. And when he gives me the side-eye, I can just pull this out as leverage.
I can't even get my head around owning a gun. I seriously do not understand "for protection" as a reason to own one either. Guns breed more guns. I am just astounded that crisis after crisis happens and nothing changes regarding gun control.
FFFC even though I don't live in the States I am pretty paranoid about something happening here. To the point where sometimes going to the bigger malls makes me anxious.
Then you've never lost part of your livelihood to wild dogs, coyotes, or wolves? Have any idea what a calf looks like when coyotes show up to "deliver it"? Or what a cougar can do to a horse?
We own guns. We use them for hunting, and protection of our livestock. There are a good number of people that feed their families by hunting wild game. They don't do it for sport, but for sustenance.
Guns are not bad. People may use them to do bad things, yes, even horrific things. But that does not make them bad.
My son has pretend guns, and he knows that guns have rules and consequences. Don't point them at people, don't look down the barrel, and never say, "It's okay, it isn't loaded." We don't call them toys.
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's wrong.
Owning guns for hunting or to protect livestock is completely different than owning one for self defense. IMO.
I'm not against gun ownership or use really at all, but it is maddening that gun control laws are so hard to change and to make stricter.
I read a good article recently that explored the reason that people tend to execute mass shootings. It likened them to terrorists, essentially because they take a long time planning these events and want fame and notoriety (even after death) as a result. Most of the time they're not people that "snap". I found it interesting because whatever were doing to try and prevent these kind of events it obviously isn't working!
Then you've never lost part of your livelihood to wild dogs, coyotes, or wolves? Have any idea what a calf looks like when coyotes show up to "deliver it"? Or what a cougar can do to a horse?
We own guns. We use them for hunting, and protection of our livestock. There are a good number of people that feed their families by hunting wild game. They don't do it for sport, but for sustenance.
Guns are not bad. People may use them to do bad things, yes, even horrific things. But that does not make them bad.
My son has pretend guns, and he knows that guns have rules and consequences. Don't point them at people, don't look down the barrel, and never say, "It's okay, it isn't loaded." We don't call them toys.
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's wrong.
Owning guns for hunting or to protect livestock is completely different than owning one for self defense. IMO.
I'm not against gun ownership or use really at all, but it is maddening that gun control laws are so hard to change and to make stricter.
I read a good article recently that explored the reason that people tend to execute mass shootings. It likened them to terrorists, essentially because they take a long time planning these events and want fame and notoriety (even after death) as a result. Most of the time they're not people that "snap". I found it interesting because whatever were doing to try and prevent these kind of events it obviously isn't working!
The reasons for owning them may differ, but applying stricter gun control laws comes down across the board, and how do you make exceptions for the certain people? Would it only matter in city limits (where guns aren't supposed to be fired anyways)? I get the frustration on both sides (sending DH to his teaching job after Sandy Hook was not fun), but I won't be one to turn in my gun, ever.
Oh god. I saw your post and my heart sank. +1 to gun control in the u.s. ASAP
I wasn't going to comment because this doesn't exactly belong in the FFFC thread, but - it's not just a matter of gun control, but providing better resources and services in regards to mental health. Just taking away guns won't solve anything, the root problem needs to be addressed, which is mental health and support for individuals who feel they need to take drastic measures such as this.
Amen @jenmomma, you took the words right out of my mouth. I made this argument the other day to my dad. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A BLACK MARKET FOR GUNS and people need to understand that there is no way to get rid of the hundreds of millions if not billions of guns we have in our country. I also feel that there needs to be greater punishment for those that are made aware of a shooter's plans ahead of time that go unreported. There is always someone that says that the shooter told them what they were planning to do, even if they didn't take the threat seriously, it's pure negligence. Same goes for households with unsecured guns, if a kid takes his parents guns to inflict harm, it's the guardians or parents that need to be held responsible for their own negligence.
I make DH still think that he has to clean the cat box because I'm breastfeeding. I don't think he really needs to, but I still make him do it anyways. I can't remember if I've used this for FFFC already, but oh well... It came up again last night so it was on my mind!
+1. One of our cats doesn't bury his poop and it really stinks. I don't want to go near that thing! I'll need to come up with some other excuse once I'm not BFing anymore!
For my confession- I have nearly killed an entire jar of Trader Joe's Cookies and Cream Cookie Butter. How? By eating it by the tablespoonful. I'm disgusted with myself.
Post by carolyngrace on Oct 9, 2015 14:50:22 GMT -5
It's insane to argue that just because OTHER measures should be taken to prevent shootings (as obviously they should!) that stricter gun control laws aren't needed. It's these kind of arguments that keep anything from changing so the same shit keeps happening.
And I'm sorry but "I'm not giving up my gun" convinces me that the fear mongering conservative extremists have done their job well. No one is talking about taking anyone's guns! People who use them for the right purposes should have no problem with increased background checks and waiting periods, which is the type of thing we're talking about. Gun control, not gun abolishment!
Also poss UO and Fffc but we had none yest so, meh. I live in a bra, I sleep in a bra, if I could shower in a bra and it not be really weird, I would. DNW boobs hanging low.
Sisterhood of the constant bra. My issue is the perpetual leakage. I always wonder how much milk I throw away in those nipple pads. Shoulda bought stock in the damn things. Probs should get reusables.
FFFC Im a wasteful SOB? We use paper plates for dinner more frequently than I care to admit, but I guess I just did. We call em lazy plates. Even when we go grocery shopping, like "hey, do we need more lazy plates?" "Nah I think we have like 20 more left."
We don't have a dishwasher (other than DH) so we always use paper plates and solo cups. We use real flatware though.
And another school shooting just happened in Texas. That's two in one day. Ugh so looking forward to moving my family out of this country. 6 months could not go faster.
It's insane to argue that just because OTHER measures should be taken to prevent shootings (as obviously they should!) that stricter gun control laws aren't needed. It's these kind of arguments that keep anything from changing so the same shit keeps happening.
And I'm sorry but "I'm not giving up my gun" convinces me that the fear mongering conservative extremists have done their job well. No one is talking about taking anyone's guns! People who use them for the right purposes should have no problem with increased background checks and waiting periods, which is the type of thing we're talking about. Gun control, not gun abolishment!
Who is arguing this?
I felt clairencub was implying that gun control wasn't a relevant solution. And in general I feel like a lot of people sideline any movement for gun control by changing the subject to other forms of prevention.
And obviously my last paragraph was mainly aimed towards wegrowsheep.
And another school shooting just happened in Texas. That's two in one day. Ugh so looking forward to moving my family out of this country. 6 months could not go faster.
Would love to move also, but with so much family here it doesn't feel realistic. Maybe if we made enough money to visit frequently.
And another school shooting just happened in Texas. That's two in one day. Ugh so looking forward to moving my family out of this country. 6 months could not go faster.
JFC.
Where are you moving to? I would love to leave the country as well. H works for an international company and I told him if he was ever eligible for a transfer that I would not hesitate.
We are moving to Canada. DH grew up there and we both feel it's a better place to raise our family.
+1 to the the "gun regulation is not all we need" camp
IMO its a band aid solution, should we use that band aid to save lives? Yes of course Id vote for it tomorrow but it cant stop there
I feel like comparing us to other countries doesnt work, there are just too many differences but looking and why mass shootings have sky rocketed in our own country in the last 50 years, absolutely. Look there to find the root problems and therefore solutions
@jemomma that could be exciting for you guys. are there countries that your H has more access to through work? Any that you like?
His company is primarily based in New Zealand, which would be exciting. They also have offices in London, Brazil and Slovakia. It would be really tough to relocate somewhere like that with 3 kids, but I think it would be so beneficial for them to grow up in another country and have the experience of living abroad.
I've never been to New Zealand but my DH lived there for a few months and loved it. I heard it's absolutely beautiful.
I felt clairencub was implying that gun control wasn't a relevant solution. And in general I feel like a lot of people sideline any movement for gun control by changing the subject to other forms of prevention.
And obviously my last paragraph was mainly aimed towards wegrowsheep.
carolyngrace I'm not against gun control. We have gun controls in place. Every gun that we own as a family has a background check attached to it. My SO is able to carry a concealed weapon due to his taking a concealed carry course which requires a shooting range test. This is a form of education and control. What do we do about people who carry concealed weapons unlicensed? I believe there could be stricter gun controls but what do we do about Mexico? I was referencing a never ending black market that our own country's border patrol and federal policing has not been able to curb. I'm an hour away from Juarez and guns are transferred back and forth like nothing.
People should also consider the source that supplied the weapons to these shooters. Most of the time it's their own loved ones who gave them access or negligently had guns accessible. Many times the guns used in many of the shootings were legally procured. People should be held responsible. You own guns, take true ownership and responsibility of your property.
@jemomma that could be exciting for you guys. are there countries that your H has more access to through work? Any that you like?
His company is primarily based in New Zealand, which would be exciting. They also have offices in London, Brazil and Slovakia. It would be really tough to relocate somewhere like that with 3 kids, but I think it would be so beneficial for them to grow up in another country and have the experience of living abroad.
Ooh New Zealand could be awesome! And an English speaking country would be an easier transition for the kiddos
I've never been to New Zealand but my DH lived there for a few months and loved it. I heard it's absolutely beautiful.
I have never been either, but it has always been on my list of places I want to visit. H went for a work visit a few years ago and absolutely loved it!
Agree relocating with 3 kids would be tough. It would probably be easier to relocate when they are in middle school or high school and more independent.
The graph shows firearm homicide rates per 100,000 in population for 2013. Are you all really going to debate the desperate need for gun control in your country?
This graph only shows a small part of the story, and leaves a great deal out. Not least of all, the non-gun related violence in other countries. See:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/06/zero-correlation-between-state-homicide-rate-and-state-gun-laws/
carolyngrace My comment was absolutely valid. My gun was a gift. My father should be allowed to gift guns to his children as he sees fit, and include them in his will. There are govt officials that have proposed making this illegal. Perhaps it's the ties to farming that I have, and watching the government take away more and more of what we can do (see WOTUS, GMOs, and wolves), but I do not believe the government has anymore right to tell me what I can and cannot shoot a coyote/cougar/bear/home intruder with than they do telling a woman whether or not she can have an abortion.
clairencub is spot on in saying that we HAVE gun control legislation in place. The people committing mass homicides are not mentally healthy, and I think there are many other factors that play into this including upbringing, values, media, etc. Personally, I am all for armed guards at schools. We use guns to protect our president, why not also our children?
wegrowsheep it's interesting you brought up the gifting of guns loophole because that loophole is the reason my insane uncle has massive amount of guns.He was jailed for trying to kill my aunt with a gun and she ended up dropping the changes because she loves him so much. Blah blah blah. Fast forward 3 years and she gifts him guns for his birthday ever year through the gifting loophole. So under a background check it looks like she owns the guns not him. Im just fed up with this issue in the United States.
Sisterhood of the constant bra. My issue is the perpetual leakage. I always wonder how much milk I throw away in those nipple pads. Shoulda bought stock in the damn things. Probs should get reusables.
FFFC Im a wasteful SOB? We use paper plates for dinner more frequently than I care to admit, but I guess I just did. We call em lazy plates. Even when we go grocery shopping, like "hey, do we need more lazy plates?" "Nah I think we have like 20 more left."
We don't have a dishwasher (other than DH) so we always use paper plates and solo cups. We use real flatware though.
If we didn't have a dishwashet, we would be using disposable too. Can't count on H to wash any dishes, but he will at least unload the dishwasher
wegrowsheep it's interesting you brought up the gifting of guns loophole because that loophole is the reason my insane uncle has massive amount of guns.He was jailed for trying to kill my aunt with a gun and she ended up dropping the changes because she loves him so much. Blah blah blah. Fast forward 3 years and she gifts him guns for his birthday ever year through the gifting loophole. So under a background check it looks like she owns the guns not him. Im just fed up with this issue in the United States.
Sounds like your aunt is the reason your uncle has guns, not the loophole... And if he is insane, why did she give him guns? Would you feel differently if they were knives?
wegrowsheep it's interesting you brought up the gifting of guns loophole because that loophole is the reason my insane uncle has massive amount of guns.He was jailed for trying to kill my aunt with a gun and she ended up dropping the changes because she loves him so much. Blah blah blah. Fast forward 3 years and she gifts him guns for his birthday ever year through the gifting loophole. So under a background check it looks like she owns the guns not him. Im just fed up with this issue in the United States.
Sounds like your aunt is the reason your uncle has guns, not the loophole... And if he is insane, why did she give him guns? Would you feel differently if they were knives?
Yes if they were knives I wouldn't care. He has semi automatic rifles etc. yes my aunt is so stupid for staying with him and supplying him with the weapons but this is the problem. She is legally allowed to do this and it doesn't matter that their is a mentally ill person in her home who had access to them. Most of the guns in mass shootings are purchased legally. It's massively f*d up.
Post by hannahl201477 on Oct 9, 2015 17:27:51 GMT -5
I hate talking about gun control. It gets my panties all in a wad. Makes my feathers all ruffled. Haha Anyways, I totally am already playing they close my eyes when LO looks at me but doesn't need anything during the night.
Post by periwinkledaydreams on Oct 9, 2015 18:16:25 GMT -5
I saw something pretty interesting (however over-simplified as it was, Id like to see the concept extrapolated on) about treating the responsibility of gun ownership much like car ownership. Require passing a written and performance test in order to acquire a license, require registration and updating of registration, etc. I don't personally own or carry but I've shot my fair share and am around plenty of people who carry. It simply is fact that people in the US are walking around with guns day in and day out, many of them legal, many of them not. Personally I would feel safer knowing that the people who are carrying them around at the very least know how to properly operate and aim.
For god sake thats a sad thing to say. And once again, doesn't touch on those who acquire the guns illegally in the first place. Living in a high violence area its something Ive spent a whole lot of time thinking about. The cycle of miseducation, poverty, lack of access to health services, etc. The problems with gun violence are so many and varied that the solutions must be too. Its not just school shootings and isolated incidents, although those are what really make the news. Lost children are dying in the streets of our cities daily at the hands of other lost children who are holding guns and closing their eyes and spraying bullets and none of those lost children even know why. And Im not saying one is more or less sad than the other. All around its just terrible, and no one has one big answer. Tighter controls? Definitely. More access to mental health services? Definitely. Will that end the culture of violence that is so widespread? Sadly not I think.
It's insane to argue that just because OTHER measures should be taken to prevent shootings (as obviously they should!) that stricter gun control laws aren't needed. It's these kind of arguments that keep anything from changing so the same shit keeps happening.
And I'm sorry but "I'm not giving up my gun" convinces me that the fear mongering conservative extremists have done their job well. No one is talking about taking anyone's guns! People who use them for the right purposes should have no problem with increased background checks and waiting periods, which is the type of thing we're talking about. Gun control, not gun abolishment!
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