Breastfeeding check in 10/19-10/25

[runningmommy519]

Oct 19, 2015 20:36:55 GMT -5 motownthrowdown said:

I took the bottle with me and compared the vitamin amounts. They were identical, but the generic one was like 4 bucks cheaper. Score!

We break it up because the iron was too hard on her stomach all at once, plus it was making the milk taste gross. Granted, it was half a mil into like 30 at the time...it would probably be ok now. I hate the way that crap smells though lol

Then you'd only have to smell it once! Lol

Yeah I was really hoping to avoid this iron vitamin this time. We had been slacking on giving it to him. He has taken it by mouth before (just the vitamin) and does well with that but I kept forgetting. So we decided we better start doing one bottle a day like we did with Isaac. Well it was easier with him because he was in daycare and they'd do it. It's part of our routine now.

Ps I bet you made a face when I told you we gave it him to it straight didn't you? An "oh my gosh that probably tastes awful face" lol

[motownthrowdown]

Oct 19, 2015 20:44:31 GMT -5 runningmommy519 said:

Oct 19, 2015 20:36:55 GMT -5 motownthrowdown said:

I took the bottle with me and compared the vitamin amounts. They were identical, but the generic one was like 4 bucks cheaper. Score!

We break it up because the iron was too hard on her stomach all at once, plus it was making the milk taste gross. Granted, it was half a mil into like 30 at the time...it would probably be ok now. I hate the way that crap smells though lol

Then you'd only have to smell it once! Lol

Yeah I was really hoping to avoid this iron vitamin this time. We had been slacking on giving it to him. He has taken it by mouth before (just the vitamin) and does well with that but I kept forgetting. So we decided we better start doing one bottle a day like we did with Isaac. Well it was easier with him because he was in daycare and they'd do it. It's part of our routine now.

Ps I bet you made a face when I told you we gave it him to it straight didn't you? An "oh my gosh that probably tastes awful face" lol

Ugh, I totally did lol. They told us in the nicu that she'd barf it back it up if we didn't mix it. If it smells like it tastes...oh god, I just tried it off a knife. Gagged. Almost hurled. Omg. Still gagging. Oh, the smell...

We've gotten really bad about forgetting it too. We mix up bottles every night and we've started adding the vitamins to one of the bottles, since we have to add enfamil ar and protein anyway. 

I have to go brush my teeth to get that shit out of my mouth. Brb lol

[DSHM13]

Oct 19, 2015 20:11:00 GMT -5 runningmommy519 said:

Oct 19, 2015 19:57:53 GMT -5 DSHM13 said:

Thank you! Seriously, without this group I'm not sure how I would've gotten through the tough time. You guys are the best!

This is exactly why the "annoyed with whining" post pissed me off. This thread is beneficial

I must've missed that post?

[runningmommy519]

Oct 19, 2015 21:56:53 GMT -5 DSHM13 said:

Oct 19, 2015 20:11:00 GMT -5 runningmommy519 said:

This is exactly why the "annoyed with whining" post pissed me off. This thread is beneficial

I must've missed that post?

Someone said in the FFFC one day that she was annoyed with the bfing check ins threads and that people should stop whining. She got called out and then she deleted her account because we are all so mean.

[runningmommy519]

She basically said "people just need to realize that not everyone can do it and stop whining"

[stahlop]

Oct 19, 2015 4:46:17 GMT -5 melohdy said:

9 weeks

Both - No supplementing

Trumphs: we've gone longer than I did with DD1. It seems to be working. She's still eating every 2.5 hours.

Struggle: I've got 3 full (work) days of stash (yay!) Unfortunately, we're going out of town the week after I start back and will be leaving Delilah for two full days. The math isn't working out in our favor and I think my mom will have to supplement (which isn't terrible). I'm a bit nervous about my supply going back to work and with that weekend coming up where I'll only be pumping.

Question: for btdt: are there people who never got up to pump at night once LO STTN? D wakes up once to nurse and I don't know if I'll have the will power to get up to pump once she sleeps through

6 weeks

EBF with a few bouts of pumping (LO is going to the sitter for a 2 hours every other day while I work on the play with my advanced class).

Triumphs: side lie feeding is the best! And I get to sleep!

Struggle: she's still cluster feeding which makes it hard to pump.

Melohdy, I've never gotten up to pump in the middle of the night. I'll usually pump first thing in the morning instead.

[DSHM13]

Oct 19, 2015 21:59:43 GMT -5 runningmommy519 said:

She basically said "people just need to realize that not everyone can do it and stop whining"

Hmmmm. Yup I missed that whole thing.

[astheria]

9 weeks 1 day
Doing all the things.

Got the pumpin pals flanges. So far no change. I'll give it some time. The pain was less while pumping. Today was a stressful day. Only got like 8oz in 3 pumping sessions total. I'm trying hard to relax while pumping. lol seems to get enough off of me when he nurses. But bc the lack of pumped we are having to supplement while I'm at work.

The ped was a little concerned about his weight. We have a weight check scheduled in three weeks. Hopefully I can figure out my pumping udders by then. Orherwose I'll ask about a lc. Gonna try some lactation cookies as soon as I can find some Brewers yeast.

Anyone have good cookie recipes?

[melohdy]

Those who supplement during the work day:

Did your LO have to adjust to the formula? Or do they take it as well as BM?

We are going to the Marine Corps ball out of state in three weeks. I will not have enough stashed up since I'll be working. My mom will need to supplement. We don't want that to be the first time that she gets formula so I'm thinking of having daycare do one formula bottle (or two mixed bottles) throughout the day to get her used to it.

[abvintage]

Oct 19, 2015 23:22:11 GMT -5 astheria said:

9 weeks 1 day
Doing all the things.

Got the pumpin pals flanges. So far no change. I'll give it some time. The pain was less while pumping. Today was a stressful day. Only got like 8oz in 3 pumping sessions total. I'm trying hard to relax while pumping. lol seems to get enough off of me when he nurses. But bc the lack of pumped we are having to supplement while I'm at work.

The ped was a little concerned about his weight. We have a weight check scheduled in three weeks. Hopefully I can figure out my pumping udders by then. Orherwose I'll ask about a lc. Gonna try some lactation cookies as soon as I can find some Brewers yeast.

Anyone have good cookie recipes?

This one! They are yummy: I switch it up with white chocolate chips too!: www.food.com/recipe/oatmeal-chocolate-chip-lactation-cookies-by-noel-trujillo-192346

Also, I know this sounds weird but if you are fair skinned (like me) pumping and nursing might be more painful. Also I know you already have a pump but I LOVE my Philips Avent pump. They have these gel things that go over the flanges and it makes it so much more comfortable than the Medela (I have both). Also I get more out with the Philips Avent then with the Medela. If you are desperate. If not I completely understand. I probably wouldn't buy a whole different pump if I didn't get my Medela free from insurance.

[motownthrowdown]

Didn't pump since 7am so she could maybe have lunch from me. Wouldn't latch. Wanted nothing to do with it. Then she started crying. Then I may have cried a little bit. Heating up a fucking bottle.

[ady45]

Age of lo? 2 months tomorrow.

Ef/ep/both/supp? EBF occasionally feed him a bottle of pumped milk.

Triumphs? Nip and not having the cover ripped off by M. (Cover is for my comfort, not others dgaf about that).

Struggles? M has started clamping down and my nipples are sore again.

If I try to pump longer than maybe 10 minutes, it is highly uncomfortable. Even if I turn it down. I will still be producing a steady stream. As of right now it's NBD, I'm still on leave for a few more weeks. I just worry about tanking my supply once I'm back to work. Any idea how to remedy this?

[cupcakecutiern]

Oct 20, 2015 11:36:58 GMT -5 motownthrowdown said:

Didn't pump since 7am so she could maybe have lunch from me. Wouldn't latch. Wanted nothing to do with it. Then she started crying. Then I may have cried a little bit. Heating up a fucking bottle.

I have found that even if j missed timed it, Alexis still can feed even after pumping. You can try breast feeding after the bottle. If she's too hungry she may have a harder time latching.

[motownthrowdown]

ady45 do you have the right size shields? I had ones that were too small small at first and it was agonizing.

[ady45]

Oct 20, 2015 12:53:49 GMT -5 motownthrowdown said:

ady45 do you have the right size shields? I had ones that were too small small at first and it was agonizing.

They are the same size as the ones I used with DD and I don't remember it being like this.

[motownthrowdown]

Oct 20, 2015 12:55:25 GMT -5 ady45 said:

Oct 20, 2015 12:53:49 GMT -5 motownthrowdown said:

ady45 do you have the right size shields? I had ones that were too small small at first and it was agonizing.

They are the same size as the ones I used with DD and I don't remember it being like this.

Allegedly your nipple size can change. Are they rubbing at all?

[ady45]

I feel like it sucks a bunch in. My actual nipple doesn't touch the edges.
@motownthrowdown

ETA: reply fail.

[runningmommy519]

Oct 20, 2015 11:36:58 GMT -5 motownthrowdown said:

Didn't pump since 7am so she could maybe have lunch from me. Wouldn't latch. Wanted nothing to do with it. Then she started crying. Then I may have cried a little bit. Heating up a fucking bottle.

I was thinking about this last night. I wonder if it worked so well last night because she wasn't full blown hungry. Like if you try to give her most of her bottle and then put her to breast. Or give her the full bottle then try to latch her an hr later? Maybe if you catch her when she's not so hungry

[runningmommy519]

Well my mommy instinct was right. He didn't gain enough. It's not concerning but we do want to fix this before it becomes that way. I didn't have time to talk fully about it but they are going to call me later with an action plan. They mentioned doing more bottles so we can fortify his milk. Or replacing those feeding with high cal formula. I also want to know if I should be waking him up at night. They called while I was getting ready to leave the store which is why they are going to call back.

I started crying when we hit home. Ethan was screaming. Isaac was throwing a tantrum. My crying caused a panic attack.

I really don't understand how the answer would be more bottles when a baby stimulates the breast better than the pump.

The nurse also is not familiar with lactation because she asked how much I get pumping and said that's probably what baby is getting. When I mentioned that baby were more efficient she said "yeah but if you are pumping 2 oz baby isn't going to get 8." Well of course not. What breastfed baby eats 8 oz?

Going to try to track down a LC too. We just moved at the end of August so hopefully I can find one

I think because ds1 gets one bottle a day anyway we can do straight high cal formula. I'll still pump and just save it. Going to try pumping after a few nursing sessions too. (Another suggestion that i don't really agree with or have time for)

[motownthrowdown]

Oct 20, 2015 13:34:08 GMT -5 ady45 said:

I feel like it sucks a bunch in. My actual nipple doesn't touch the edges.
@motownthrowdown

ETA: reply fail.

Hmm. Can you see a lactation consultant? If it hurts even on the lowest setting, something else is going on.

[ady45]

Oct 20, 2015 13:55:59 GMT -5 motownthrowdown said:

Oct 20, 2015 13:34:08 GMT -5 ady45 said:

I feel like it sucks a bunch in. My actual nipple doesn't touch the edges.
@motownthrowdown

ETA: reply fail.

Hmm. Can you see a lactation consultant? If it hurts even on the lowest setting, something else is going on.

They have a breastfeeding support group at the hospital. I may check there.

[motownthrowdown]

Oct 20, 2015 13:42:30 GMT -5 runningmommy519 said:

Oct 20, 2015 11:36:58 GMT -5 motownthrowdown said:

Didn't pump since 7am so she could maybe have lunch from me. Wouldn't latch. Wanted nothing to do with it. Then she started crying. Then I may have cried a little bit. Heating up a fucking bottle.

I was thinking about this last night. I wonder if it worked so well last night because she wasn't full blown hungry. Like if you try to give her most of her bottle and then put her to breast. Or give her the full bottle then try to latch her an hr later? Maybe if you catch her when she's not so hungry

After I pulled myself back together, I'm wondering this too. She was doing it because her shots hurt and she wanted a pacifier. And then I think she started sucking and was like, hey there's food in here. Cool.

I'll try again this afternoon in between her next 2 feeds.

[motownthrowdown]

runningmommy519 that sucks. A couple questions:

1. Have you recently done a weighted feed?

2. Can you request a LC through your pediatrician? That's who I'm supposed to call if I'm having trouble in a week.

3. How far off is he?

4. Bright side of adding a bottle-if you do it at night, you can make your dh take turns with you lol.

[layloo08]

Oct 19, 2015 21:59:43 GMT -5 runningmommy519 said:

She basically said "people just need to realize that not everyone can do it and stop whining"

Wow! I definitely missed that..

I don't always post in this thread because I don't have much to say about it, but I've learned so many helpful things. The main one, "don't give up"

[esgrunner]

runningmommy519, check here ilca.org

I'm off to a breastfeeding support group with a friend!
Just hoping to get E's weight and some tips for transitioning to going back to work and pumping.


Anyone's baby have a dairy sensitivity? I don't think E has an allergy, but it seems like his tummy is particularly upset in the middle of the night....a few hours after my gigantic bowl of ice cream.

[cupcakecutiern]

runningmommy519 that sucks. But way to trust your instinct. My guess with giving bottles you can tell exactly how much he is taking, another alternative is a weighted feed. I would def call the hospital bc they should have a list of lactation people (your ped might have some contacts too). Our one on one was actually covered by my insurance. Pumping def isn't a way to see how much he's taking. Alexis has taken 5oz from a weighted feed and I usually won't pump more than 3oz.

[runningmommy519]

cupcakecutiern I also think it's so they can get extra calories in him. I actually emailed a LC thanks to @esrunner. I might mention it to the nurse when she calls back too.

[2dumbdogs]

Oct 20, 2015 14:21:06 GMT -5 esgrunner said:

runningmommy519, check here ilca.org

I'm off to a breastfeeding support group with a friend!
Just hoping to get E's weight and some tips for transitioning to going back to work and pumping.


Anyone's baby have a dairy sensitivity? I don't think E has an allergy, but it seems like his tummy is particularly upset in the middle of the night....a few hours after my gigantic bowl of ice cream.

I think mine might, I cut out dairy since Saturday and I'm already seeing an improvement in gassy fussy episodes....

[htuzzi324]

Oct 20, 2015 15:37:38 GMT -5 noname said:

Oct 20, 2015 14:21:06 GMT -5 esgrunner said:

runningmommy519, check here ilca.org

I'm off to a breastfeeding support group with a friend!
Just hoping to get E's weight and some tips for transitioning to going back to work and pumping.


Anyone's baby have a dairy sensitivity? I don't think E has an allergy, but it seems like his tummy is particularly upset in the middle of the night....a few hours after my gigantic bowl of ice cream.

Yep. DD1 did too. We've been dairy and soy-free for 3 weeks and DD2 is doing great. Her full-body rash is completely gone, she spits up maybe twice a day, and is never gassy. DD1 outgrew it right before turning one, but I'm really hoping DD2 outgrows it sooner because I love my cheese.

All three of my kids had a dairy sensitivity. The older two other it by their second birthdays so here's hoping it's much sooner with N.

[runningmommy519]

Dr called me directly. That's kinda nice.

Short version. Offer bottle of 1-2 oz after feelings 2-3 times a day. Pump those times. Milk should be fortified or high cal formula.

I am working on having a minimum of a gallon of water a day but 1.5 gallons if I can. With my workout routine I think I need more water. Going to try power pumping too. Oatmeal and lactation cookies.