You guys are so awesome. I love these threads when errrrybody gets to pull out their TTC knowledge.
I have a question, for once! This might require some of the 3T ladies because meds... So, the RE had me on 50mg clomid in preparation for IUI #2. At CD12 monitoring, I had one dominant and one smaller follie growing on each side, but all were still smallish (largest was 14.1) and my lining was only at 6.5.
That afternoon my nurse called and said my LH had surged, there was no time or need for a trigger, and IUI would be the next day. I questioned whether it made sense to even do an IUI given both the size of my follies and lining thickness, and finally my RE agreed that we should probably cancel and just have timed intercourse.
That was on Monday. Here it is Thursday, and my BBT is still low. Did I have a false-alarm surge that faked out even the RE? Could the Estrace I'm on be affecting things? I was supposed to start progesterone today, but I'm hesitant to do it since it doesn't look like I've O'd yet. Should I start taking it anyway?
TL;DR: Will taking progesterone potentially before O screw anything up? Why can't bodies be machines that make sense, dammit?
Can your RE do a P4 draw today to confirm ovulation?
Has anyone experienced a lot of spotting during their cycle? It's never happened to me before but this month it started on CD 18 and has been pretty much every day for a week (now on CD25). Anything to worry about?
I couldn't tell if anyone answered your question. I used to have signficant spotting during my LP. I don't anymore but the doctors haven't figured out why.
The spotting could be occuring for several reasons. Irritated cervix and low progesterone are two common causes. IMO, because this is not a normal occurence for you and it has been going on for about a week it wouldn't hurt to get it checked out.
However, two questions before running to the doctor: 1) Is it definite spotting or potentially a light period? 2) Are you experiencing any pain?
Post by requiressnacks on Jan 14, 2016 13:20:21 GMT -5
achromia, that is really annoying and I know nothing about progesterone. Just out of curiosity, were you using OPKs? Did you ever turn one positive? I'm just surprised you O'd with a 14 follie.
You guys are so awesome. I love these threads when errrrybody gets to pull out their TTC knowledge.
I have a question, for once! This might require some of the 3T ladies because meds... So, the RE had me on 50mg clomid in preparation for IUI #2. At CD12 monitoring, I had one dominant and one smaller follie growing on each side, but all were still smallish (largest was 14.1) and my lining was only at 6.5.
That afternoon my nurse called and said my LH had surged, there was no time or need for a trigger, and IUI would be the next day. I questioned whether it made sense to even do an IUI given both the size of my follies and lining thickness, and finally my RE agreed that we should probably cancel and just have timed intercourse.
That was on Monday. Here it is Thursday, and my BBT is still low. Did I have a false-alarm surge that faked out even the RE? Could the Estrace I'm on be affecting things? I was supposed to start progesterone today, but I'm hesitant to do it since it doesn't look like I've O'd yet. Should I start taking it anyway?
TL;DR: Will taking progesterone potentially before O screw anything up? Why can't bodies be machines that make sense, dammit?
I was told to not temp while on Clomid because it can affect your temps.
Yes, you could have had an LH surge that did not result in ovulation, as well.
I think I'd ask for an additional ultrasound to confirm ovulation if they're into that.
achromia , that is really annoying and I know nothing about progesterone. Just out of curiosity, were you using OPKs? Did you ever turn one positive? I'm just surprised you O'd with a 14 follie.
Depending on her issues, it could make perfect sense. Some bodies ovulate immature eggs.
You guys are so awesome. I love these threads when errrrybody gets to pull out their TTC knowledge.
I have a question, for once! This might require some of the 3T ladies because meds... So, the RE had me on 50mg clomid in preparation for IUI #2. At CD12 monitoring, I had one dominant and one smaller follie growing on each side, but all were still smallish (largest was 14.1) and my lining was only at 6.5.
That afternoon my nurse called and said my LH had surged, there was no time or need for a trigger, and IUI would be the next day. I questioned whether it made sense to even do an IUI given both the size of my follies and lining thickness, and finally my RE agreed that we should probably cancel and just have timed intercourse.
That was on Monday. Here it is Thursday, and my BBT is still low. Did I have a false-alarm surge that faked out even the RE? Could the Estrace I'm on be affecting things? I was supposed to start progesterone today, but I'm hesitant to do it since it doesn't look like I've O'd yet. Should I start taking it anyway?
TL;DR: Will taking progesterone potentially before O screw anything up? Why can't bodies be machines that make sense, dammit?
Progesterone will essentially act as birth control. Don't take it before ovulation. I agree with Rama that you should ask for a draw to confirm ovulation before you start taking it.
Yay, you are all so wise! I put in a call to my nurse to ask if they can do either bloodwork or ultrasound to confirm ovulation. I won't take the progesterone until I hear back.
This is so interesting to me, albeit frustrating. Thank you ladies!
Can someone talk to me about the difference between Clomid and Femara?
TL/DR version-H and I have decided to keep trying on our own for a couple more cycles now that my PCOS seems to be under control and my cycles are more regular. I had a doctors appointment yesterday where my dr was walking me through hypothetically what will happen when I transfer over to the RE and she mentioned she thought they would go with Femara over Clomid. I'm just curious what the difference is and what would influence the decision of one over the other
The latest studies have shown that patients with PCOS have better response to Femara/Letrozole, over Clomid. When I made the switch the the RE we started out on 5 mg + TI without a trigger, if that didn't work we were going to move to 7.5 mg + TI with a trigger. Thankfully round three worked for us. I would have pushed harder to get triggers early on because it can really help pin point when ovulation happens.
Here's a super-noob trigger related question - are those always injections? Does the RE give you the shot, or do you have to administer it to yourself? I'm not even up to IUI stage (if that's even a viable option for me) but if I have to have DH give me a shot I need to start mentally preparing for that now because gah, needles. Of course, if IUI isn't an option it means I have to move right on to IVF, so I guess I should start mentally preparing for shots either way.
Here's a super-noob trigger related question - are those always injections? Does the RE give you the shot, or do you have to administer it to yourself? I'm not even up to IUI stage (if that's even a viable option for me) but if I have to have DH give me a shot I need to start mentally preparing for that now because gah, needles. Of course, if IUI isn't an option it means I have to move right on to IVF, so I guess I should start mentally preparing for shots either way.
I self-administer my trigger (Ovidrel). It's a hell of a lot scarier on paper than in practice. Honestly, the first time I triggered, I didn't even feel the needle and thought I was doing it wrong because it didn't hurt! Seriously, no big.
EDIT: Yes, triggers are always injections, afaik. They are shots of hCG.
Here's a super-noob trigger related question - are those always injections? Does the RE give you the shot, or do you have to administer it to yourself? I'm not even up to IUI stage (if that's even a viable option for me) but if I have to have DH give me a shot I need to start mentally preparing for that now because gah, needles. Of course, if IUI isn't an option it means I have to move right on to IVF, so I guess I should start mentally preparing for shots either way.
As far as I know, it is always a shot. Honestly, I freaked out before my first one but the needle is really, really tiny. It's not bad. You usually have to administer it in the evening with an IUI ~36 hours later.
Here's a super-noob trigger related question - are those always injections? Does the RE give you the shot, or do you have to administer it to yourself? I'm not even up to IUI stage (if that's even a viable option for me) but if I have to have DH give me a shot I need to start mentally preparing for that now because gah, needles. Of course, if IUI isn't an option it means I have to move right on to IVF, so I guess I should start mentally preparing for shots either way.
Yup, injection and yup you give it yourself. (YH could do it of course, too.) I'm terrified of shots and seriously thought IVF was out for us bc I can't handle shots and DH is a wimp, too. But...fast forward a year or so, and I've given myself two trigger shots. They are NBD...seriously. I am still scared of the next step with IVF, but I feel way better having conquered at least the initial idea of shots (esp where I gave it to myself...still working on H's nerve.)
TTC since July 2014. CP March 2015. IVF #1 March 2016, 5R, 3M, 2F with ICSI. Transferred 2 on day 3. CP. Surprise BFP and then CP August 2016 (prep cycle for IVF). IVF #2: zero eggs retrieved IVF #3: 6R, 5M, 5F, 3 (2 8A and 1 11A) transferred, one "B" graded embryo frozen on day 5. BFP (at home 7dp3dt, confirmed 14dp3dt with 1552 beta) and U/S at 5w5d, 2 sacs and 2 yolks!
I was wondering, how does one go about vaginally temping? Do you just basically stick the thermometer up there and wait? Because it seems like there's some erm... extra space... wouldn't that throw off the reading?
I am temping vaginally this cycle. I put the thermometer between my labia, and I insert it about 1-1.5 inches. My BBT beeps so I listen for the beep when it is done taking my temp.
Most people see less rocky temps with temping vaginally. That has not been the case for me though.
Saw RE 1/11/17 HSG x 2 - 2nd revealed both tubes open and arcuate uterus Cycle #1-2 Femara 5mg + TI = Cancelled - poor response Cycle #3 - Femara 7.5mg and Dex 0.5mg - another poor response - waiting to see when I O
Has anyone experienced a lot of spotting during their cycle? It's never happened to me before but this month it started on CD 18 and has been pretty much every day for a week (now on CD25). Anything to worry about?
I couldn't tell if anyone answered your question. I used to have signficant spotting during my LP. I don't anymore but the doctors haven't figured out why.
The spotting could be occuring for several reasons. Irritated cervix and low progesterone are two common causes. IMO, because this is not a normal occurence for you and it has been going on for about a week it wouldn't hurt to get it checked out.
However, two questions before running to the doctor: 1) Is it definite spotting or potentially a light period? 2) Are you experiencing any pain?
Thank you @wallieflowers! Definitely light spotting and no pain. The only thing different this month is that I did have a pap smear 2 weeks ago, I don't know if that could have anything to do with it?
Thank you @wallieflowers! Definitely light spotting and no pain. The only thing different this month is that I did have a pap smear 2 weeks ago, I don't know if that could have anything to do with it?
That could absolutely be what is causing your spotting. The pap could have easily irritated your cervix, making you bleed now. If it really concerns you, do you have a nurse advice line you can call?
Can I just ask my RE to do a trigger for my next IUI cycle? Granted, I O on my own, but it seems to take the guesswork out of things.
I thought you were asking if you could ask your RE to give you your ovidrel shot so you didn't have to do it. I was like "I don't think it works that way..." Hahaha. I've always been told to take the ovidrel around 9pm so IUI could be 36 hours (and in the morning) later.
I actually hated that I used a trigger and wanted to let my body ovulate on its own. I just wanted less intervention. After we missed ovulation one cycle because it happened earlier, they insisted on the shot. Ugh. Fine.
I was wondering, how does one go about vaginally temping? Do you just basically stick the thermometer up there and wait? Because it seems like there's some erm... extra space... wouldn't that throw off the reading?
YOU READ MY MIND COOP!!! Except that I had Stewie and Brian in my head
bex15, I always spotted a lot during my luteal phases. I convinced myself that I had low progesterone and that what was causing all my spotting. On a natural cycle, my progesterone 7 DPO was only 4. My doctor doesn't put too much stock in the quantitative number, however, because progesterone is tricky to measure.
In the end, I needed clomid + trigger + IUI to get pregnant. I didn't spot at all leading up to the positive. Was it because clomid gave me better eggs (ie - higher progesterone levels post ovulation) or was it a fluke? I have no idea.
Can I just ask my RE to do a trigger for my next IUI cycle? Granted, I O on my own, but it seems to take the guesswork out of things.
I thought you were asking if you could ask your RE to give you your ovidrel shot so you didn't have to do it. I was like "I don't think it works that way..." Hahaha. I've always been told to take the ovidrel around 9pm so IUI could be 36 hours (and in the morning) later.
I actually hated that I used a trigger and wanted to let my body ovulate on its own. I just wanted less intervention. After we missed ovulation one cycle because it happened earlier, they insisted on the shot. Ugh. Fine.
haha - yeah, I didn't word that original question very well. I meant to say - Can I ask my RE to add a trigger to my IUI protocol next cycle?
I have read on here that how heavy your period is has no correlation with your lining. Does anyone have information that backs this up? I have periods that last one to two days, with the second day being light. Lining thickness should not be a concern, right?
I have read on here that how heavy your period is has no correlation with your lining. Does anyone have information that backs this up? I have periods that last one to two days, with the second day being light. Lining thickness should not be a concern, right?
If it makes you feel better, my lining has always been nice and thick and my periods are almost always short and light. I don't have anything scientific to back it up on hand, though.
But, no, lining thickness should not be a concern based solely on flow.
I have read on here that how heavy your period is has no correlation with your lining. Does anyone have information that backs this up? I have periods that last one to two days, with the second day being light. Lining thickness should not be a concern, right?
Good Q. My last couple periods have only lasted 2ish days with heavy flow on day one and light flow on day two. I have the same Q.
I have read on here that how heavy your period is has no correlation with your lining. Does anyone have information that backs this up? I have periods that last one to two days, with the second day being light. Lining thickness should not be a concern, right?
If it makes you feel better, my lining has always been nice and thick and my periods are almost always short and light. I don't have anything scientific to back it up on hand, though.
But, no, lining thickness should not be a concern based solely on flow.
Anecdotal evidence works great for me, in this case. Thanks!
I have read on here that how heavy your period is has no correlation with your lining. Does anyone have information that backs this up? I have periods that last one to two days, with the second day being light. Lining thickness should not be a concern, right?
Good Q. My last couple periods have only lasted 2ish days with heavy flow on day one and light flow on day two. I have the same Q.
ETA: Is a short period bad?
My RE had no problem per se with the fact that I have short periods (1-2 days only panty liner), but all my other testing looked good so I don't know if that's why he didn't think it was an issue. That said, last cycle I had thin lining at CD11 (due to clomid), started on oral estrogen and this cycle was just as short but heavier than normal.
Edit to clarify, the resulting CD 1 and 2 flow following estrogen was heavier.
Post by penguin129 on Jan 14, 2016 15:15:56 GMT -5
RE temping at the same time vs a solid 3 hour block... I tend to temp at the same time, 630 am, everyday. If I wake up and it is 5 am I will go back to sleep or just lay still for the next 1 1/2 hours. If I wake up at 6 I will temp. Just until recently I wasn't getting 3 hour blocks of sleep. I do like the idea of taking the temp at both times to see what works best.
Here's a super-noob trigger related question - are those always injections? Does the RE give you the shot, or do you have to administer it to yourself? I'm not even up to IUI stage (if that's even a viable option for me) but if I have to have DH give me a shot I need to start mentally preparing for that now because gah, needles. Of course, if IUI isn't an option it means I have to move right on to IVF, so I guess I should start mentally preparing for shots either way.
I am a huuuuge baby when it comes to blood and needles. My trigger is a shot (Ovidrel), the first cycle I used it my follies were ready at my CD12 ultrasound so the nurse did it for me. Last cycle they wanted to give my follies an extra day to bake so MH gave me the shot at home. I almost laugh at how much it doesn't hurt. Getting the blood drawn every cycle is wayyyy worse than this tiny poke if you even feel it. The trigger shot will nearly guarantee you ovulate in 36-44 hours, usually closer to 36. So it takes a lot of guesswork out of exactly when to time intercourse or IUI.
ETA: my RE tells me that the Ovidrel shot will trigger all mature follies (usually considered to be 16+) and that they will ovulate with no more than 24 hours from the first.
I have read on here that how heavy your period is has no correlation with your lining. Does anyone have information that backs this up? I have periods that last one to two days, with the second day being light. Lining thickness should not be a concern, right?
Good Q. My last couple periods have only lasted 2ish days with heavy flow on day one and light flow on day two. I have the same Q.
ETA: Is a short period bad?
Nope! Length and heaviness of flow is not inherently indicative of an issue. :)
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